How do I make an extended partition with logical

[kiwigal]

I am totally confused as to the difference between "partition" and "Volume"
I want to partition the C: drive to give an Extended partition with 2 logical partitions to remove Data from the C: and put MY installed programs.
Do I have to use 3rd party software for this?

 

[Jonathan_King]

Welcome!

It is easy to create a logical partition using the third-party program Partition Wizard.

Right-click on the empty space, and select Create New. You can then instruct it to create a logical partition.

 

[Saltgrass]

The reason you want to make logical partitions is because you want more than 4 partitions on the drive?

 

[kiwigal]

Thank you for info

Thanks Jonathon - that is a great program - more closely resembles the old Parition Magic in its layout that I used to use than anything else that I have looked at. The Windows 7 screens are hopelessly confusing - I did find finally that it HAS made an extended partition with a logical one but nowhere did it tell me that when I was trying.
Partition Wizard also has a terrific site with great tutorials and video - I would recommend it to anyone - many thanks.

And no Saltgrass - I just wanted to use an extended partition with Logical drives rather than make further primary ones since I am using them for things like my data files and the programs that I install myself. As well as having the ability to move 'My Documents to somewhere safer than the C: drive

 

[whs]

For moving your documents you may want to watch this video tutorial. It is VERY important that you first define folders in your new partition and move the various documents, etc. to the folders, NOT to the partition. That would create a minor mess.

 

[WindowsStar]

There is no real need for Logical partitions in Windows 7. They were mostly used for Windows 95/98 back in the DOS days, I did see some logical partitions with Windows NT but that was because people were formatting FAT32 and needed to dual boot with DOS. You can make primary partitions and put data on them that is perfectly fine.

 

[kiwigal]

Interesting!

I had not given that any thought - system seemed to be carried through in XP so thought that this was necessary - thanks for that

 

[Jonathan_King]

The only time you would need to create a logical drive is if you needed to have more than 4 partitions on a physical drive.

You can have a total of 4 partitions. The fourth one could be a logical drive, on which you can have unlimited extended partitions.

 

[kiwigal]

What is this?

There is no real need for Logical partitions in Windows 7. They were mostly used for Windows 95/98 back in the DOS days, I did see some logical partitions with Windows NT but that was because people were formatting FAT32 and needed to dual boot with DOS. You can make primary partitions and put data on them that is perfectly fine.

What is meant by REP? in ".....please add some REP"
Sorry to be ignorant!

 

[Jonathan_King]

See the scale icon in the upper-right of his post? Click on it, and give WindowsStar a nice comment.

See this thread: http://www.sevenforums.com/chillout-room/17160-reputation-badges.html

You could also click here to give him rep: http://www.sevenforums.com/reputation.php?p=644017

 

[Saltgrass]

Some folks feel that logical partitions are just as good as primary, and possibly so.

The point I would like to make is in XP you could make logical partitions whenever you wanted. But Win 7's Disk Management will not allow you to create a logical partition until you create a fourth partition with space still left on the drive.

If Win 7 doesn't seem to like them, I see no reason to disagree....

But there is one item that needs to be considered, if you have the System Reserved (100mb) partition, it is one of the 4 allowed.

 

[gregrocker]

Primary partitions sometimes become marked Active and derail the System MBR from the OS. So I usually suggest Logical partitions for data, although it does require a 3rd party software unless you use Diskpart command line.

You can use either. If you ever need to convert Primary to logical to create a new Primary due to limit, Partition Wizard can do this too.

It is always best to do any shrinking with Disk management as it won't fail, whereas 3rd party partitioning software can sometimes fail during Resize. However during hundreds of times we have helped others use it here for resizing, PW bootable CD has never failed so it is easily the best choice for resizing or any other operations Disk Mgmt can't do.

 

[whs]

The need for logical partitions is more or less a given the way the systems come these days. They often already have three primary partitions out of the box (system, recovery and the 100MB partition). So it is prudent to make the next one a logical - just in case one wants to add more.

 

[WindowsStar]

There is no real need for Logical partitions in Windows 7. They were mostly used for Windows 95/98 back in the DOS days, I did see some logical partitions with Windows NT but that was because people were formatting FAT32 and needed to dual boot with DOS. You can make primary partitions and put data on them that is perfectly fine.

What is meant by REP? in ".....please add some REP"
Sorry to be ignorant!

I think that JK gave you the links; all you need is to click on the scales icon , for the post that helped.