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[Barman58]

Just to educate this dumb brit from over the pond

Is the cost we're talking about here a direct cost, fines and re-licencing or does it include indirect costs such as additional transport costs during a ban for DUI and increased insurance costs once you start driving again

 

[Chase]

Just to educate this dumb brit from over the pond

Is the cost we're talking about here a direct cost, fines and re-licencing or does it include indirect costs such as additional transport costs during a ban for DUI and increased insurance costs once you start driving again

The money I lost included:

The fine for the D.U.I.: ~$2,000

The price of my car (which i totaled): ~$4,000

The price of my new I'm about to buy: ~$3,000

The price of the 18 month court oredered D.U.I. program/classes: ~$2,000

The price of an emergency response unit: ~$600

The costs for my transportation since the D.U.I.: Probably ~$1,000

And on top of all that, the price that my insurance rates are going to be at now!

Also, I have to pay for a SR22 form... which adds on additional insurance charges.

 

[Jonathan_King]

You've lost the money for the new car already?? :shock:

 

[osholt]

Just to educate this dumb brit from over the pond

Is the cost we're talking about here a direct cost, fines and re-licencing or does it include indirect costs such as additional transport costs during a ban for DUI and increased insurance costs once you start driving again

The money I lost included:

The fine for the D.U.I.: ~$2,000

The price of my car (which i totaled): ~$4,000

The price of my new I'm about to buy: ~$3,000

The price of the 18 month court oredered D.U.I. program/classes: ~$2,000

The price of an emergency response unit: ~$600

The costs for my transportation since the D.U.I.: Probably ~$1,000

And on top of all that, the price that my insurance rates are going to be at now!

Also, I have to pay for a SR22 form... which adds on additional insurance charges.

Ouch.

Oli

 

[CarlTR6]

Nigel, here in Florida, the State requires an interlock device your vehicle. You have to blow into this device (a breathalyzer) before your ignition will unlock. If you have any alcohol on your breath, it will not unlock.

You must pay for the device -$1500 five years ago; probably $2000 by now. The price includes installation. You must have it calibrated monthly (or it will not unlock) at the cost of $50.00 each month.

This is in addition to the all of the other costs. And the expensive high risk insurance lasts for three years - if you have a spotless driving record during that time.

A second DUI means automatic jail time. A DUI accident in which someone is killed results in a DUI manslaughter charge, a big felony.

 

[Chase]

You've lost the money for the new car already?? :shock:

lol.

Not quite.. yet. But I consider it gone.

 

[The Howling Wolves]

I'm very proud of you both for lessons learned.. wtg guys..[ATTACH]77521[/ATTACH]

Picked out a new hat for you.


RazorBack Hard Hat

2 more just below/above?

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

BFK do we have any tutorials on an Apple pc.. like how to save and share photos? .. just curious.. have a friend with a Mc....
thanks for any replies.

Hello LPt.

As this is a Windows / PC forum I doubt there are any, you could start a thread in the chillout and ask for help and maybe someone will be able to help you out.

BKK hi.. thanks so very much... I did find what I needed on Apples web site..
you are so helpful to me.
hugs

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[Barman58]

Nigel, here in Florida, the State requires an interlock device your vehicle. You have to blow into this device (a breathalyzer) before your ignition will unlock. If you have any alcohol on your breath, it will not unlock.

You must pay for the device -$1500 five years ago; probably $2000 by now. The price includes installation. You must have it calibrated monthly (or it will not unlock) at the cost of $50.00 each month.

This is in addition to the all of the other costs. And the expensive high risk insurance lasts for three years - if you have a spotless driving record during that time.

A second DUI means automatic jail time. A DUI accident in which someone is killed results in a DUI manslaughter charge, a big felony.

Thanks Carl

Over here it's similar but a little more discretionary as to penalties 1st offense - 1 year ban, 2nd offense 3 year ban, 3rd offense is normally a prison sentence, but not always, can be 5 years or even life ban. All include courses and often compulsory retest. the offense remains on the licence for 7 years and thus effects insurance premiums for that time, as a minimum.

Death by dangerous driving carries a maximum of about 10-15 years IIRC although actual sentence is rarely that level.

Some example here ....

Inadequate sentences for Death by Dangerous Driving in the UK

It's the point of view of a pressure group but shows the complexities of our system

 

[LADYPINKtomato1]

Went shopping for new hats for LPT
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A woman never has enough hats!

THW these are cute... cute.. I love both... have them saved to use later.
Thanks bunches. you're right about never having too many hats.. I've just worn my car wash hat.. my car looks great.. I cleaned the whitewalls first then off to the car wash to finish up.. back home.. did a short detailing.. along with .. that spray that keeps the trim looking great.. I'm beat.. not more hats tonite..lol
Sweet dreams..

 

[LADYPINKtomato1]

I'm very proud of you both for lessons learned.. wtg guys..[ATTACH]77521[/ATTACH]

Picked out a new hat for you.
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RazorBack Hard Hat

2 more just below/above?

THW hi.... I have 3 new hats from you tonite.. . thanks bunches..
all are very cute.. have them saved.. ready to begin sporting on my page... any day now.

 

[tw33k]

SATA 6Gb/sec in a 3Gb/sec Mobo ???????

I have an ASUS U3S6 in a PCIe slot

 

[CarlTR6]

Today I am packing. Tomorrow at oh-dark-thirty, we fly to Redmond, WA to attend our oldest grandchild's high school graduation.



Kaitlin and her mom

 

[Dave76]

Carl, have fun in Redmond,

Should be nice this time of year. Lets see, June, partly rainy or Noah's Arc rainy. Just like the rest of the year

 

[The Howling Wolves]

Today I am packing. Tomorrow at oh-dark-thirty, we fly to Redmond, WA to attend our oldest grandchild's high school graduation.

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Kaitlin and her mom

Congrats grandpa!
Have a safe trip and see you when you get back.


Give Kaitlin and mom a big hug from all of us here at 7F

 

[CarlTR6]

Thanks, Dave and Dennis. Actually, the weather looks decent for Saturday and Sunday in Redmond. No rain and temps in the low 70's. Graduation is Monday night - outdoors. Here's hoping for no rain Monday night.

 

[noobvious]

Today I am packing. Tomorrow at oh-dark-thirty, we fly to Redmond, WA to attend our oldest grandchild's high school graduation.

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Kaitlin and her mom

A little too far for a bike trip?
Enjoy your visit with the family, and congrats to Kaitlin on graduation.

 

[CarlTR6]

Today I am packing. Tomorrow at oh-dark-thirty, we fly to Redmond, WA to attend our oldest grandchild's high school graduation.

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Kaitlin and her mom

A little too far for a bike trip?
Enjoy your visit with the family, and congrats to Kaitlin on graduation.

Actually, if my dad was not going, we would have made the rip on our bikes. However, I don't think he, at 90, is up to a cross country bike ride.

 

[Dave76]

Thanks, Dave and Dennis. Actually, the weather looks decent for Saturday and Sunday in Redmond. No rain and temps in the low 70's. Graduation is Monday night - outdoors. Here's hoping for no rain Monday night.

Have a good trip, congrats to your Granddaughter.

Hope the weather holds for everyone involved.

Clear days are quite nice there, especially when you can see Mt. Rainer, Mt. Baker and the rest.

 

[CarlTR6]

Nigel, here in Florida, the State requires an interlock device your vehicle. You have to blow into this device (a breathalyzer) before your ignition will unlock. If you have any alcohol on your breath, it will not unlock.

You must pay for the device -$1500 five years ago; probably $2000 by now. The price includes installation. You must have it calibrated monthly (or it will not unlock) at the cost of $50.00 each month.

This is in addition to the all of the other costs. And the expensive high risk insurance lasts for three years - if you have a spotless driving record during that time.

A second DUI means automatic jail time. A DUI accident in which someone is killed results in a DUI manslaughter charge, a big felony.

Thanks Carl

Over here it's similar but a little more discretionary as to penalties 1st offense - 1 year ban, 2nd offense 3 year ban, 3rd offense is normally a prison sentence, but not always, can be 5 years or even life ban. All include courses and often compulsory retest. the offense remains on the licence for 7 years and thus effects insurance premiums for that time, as a minimum.

Death by dangerous driving carries a maximum of about 10-15 years IIRC although actual sentence is rarely that level.

Some example here ....

Inadequate sentences for Death by Dangerous Driving in the UK

It's the point of view of a pressure group but shows the complexities of our system

It is also not so cut and dried here - money talks. However, most judges do not deviate very far from the guidelines, at least in this state. Each state has its own laws. There is no DUI law at the federal level. So we have 50 different sets of laws.