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Windows 7: Homegroup issues

11 Dec 2009   #21
Brenz

Windows 7 32-bit
 
 

RogerR have u tried setting up a HomeGroup without selecting to share documents first of all ?

I have no idea why but when I didn't select to share documents it worked and I could then go back and enable document sharing once set up.


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11 Dec 2009   #22
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

1. If your can't set up a Homegroup or if file sharing with Homegroups is inconsistant follow these instructions. First you will need to uninstall completely which ever A/V software or third party firewall you have installed. Or you can try going to your A/V's software forum and attempt to configure your A/V's for sharing with Homegroups. This problem is listed first for a good reason simply because it's the most likely cause of set up or sharing problems with Homegroups.

It might also be helpful to reset your router. Be sure that IPv6 is enabled in your network connections properties window "picture below". Enable DHCP in your routers set up page and make sure that all your machines are using the same default gateway and subnet mask and that all the intended Homegroup machines can successfully connect to the internet.

2. After performing those tasks use the link below to help you fix the most likely problems encountered when setting up a Homegroup network. Pay close attention that the Time/Date settings are in sync on all machines and also that the bios clock is in sync. Also notice the registry adjustment which is sometimes required to fix certain types of Homegroup set up problems.

Homegroup trouble shooter walkthrough in the link below.
http://helpdeskgeek.com/windows-7/wi...-to-homegroup/

Other relivant links below about Homegroup connection problems.

Windows 7 Homegroup Invalid Passwords Because of Date and Time Settings - Resolve the issue with a simple workaround - Softpedia

Cannot leave Homegroup

Windows 7 HomeGroup: Walkthrough

Homegroup Password is incorrect?

Cannot change active network from public to home in Windows 7

HomeGroup get an error of must have IPv6 enabled

Set Network Location to Home

Another reason why you can’t access your HomeGroup is because it only works for home networks where you trust all the computers. If, for some reason, you chose Work, Public, or Domain, then HomeGroups will not work.
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3. There are several reasons why you can’t access your HomeGroup. Here are the most popular reasons for not being able to connect to your HomeGroup. If none of these troubleshooting tips work, try restarting your computer, or leave and then re-join the HomeGroup.

4. Other times there is a rogue file causing problems with Homegroups.

Open Windows explorer and navigate to the following file.

C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Roaming\PeerNetworking and delete all of the files in this folder. Now restart the computer.

Go to Services again and you should be able to start 'Peer Networking Grouping' and 'Peer Name Resolution Protocol'. Restart the computer again.

When you log on this time, check the event log again, to ensure no errors concerning the two services are present and also check Services to ensure the two services concerned are running.

You should now have full functionality restored to your homegroup.


5. There are a few more things you can do if it's still not working.

Open up a command prompt and type "regedit" without the quotes then hit enter. Navigate to the following key.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip6\Parameters]

You have to set the DisabledComponents Dword to 0

Very important> If there isn't a disabled components dword you have to create one and then set it to zero. To do this follow the next step while you are still at the same spot in the registry.

In the right pane, right-click and select New – DWORD (32-bit value) and type in it's name as> “DisabledComponents” and set its value to 0.
“0″ = Enable All IPv6 Interfaces (Default)
After that reboot your machine and see if the problem is fixed.

6. The following services need to be started for Homegroup networking to function properly. It sometimes helps to change them from Manual to Automatic.

First open a command prompt and type in services.msc then hit enter. Scroll down the list and locate the following services. Make sure that the service is started then right click on the service and choose properties, set the service to Automatic rather than Manual.

Right click the sevice, go to properties, make sure that all these services are started then Set to Automatic> DNS Client, Function Discovery Resource Publication, SSDP Discovery, Peer Networking Grouping,Peer Name Resolution Protocol, UPnP Device Host services, Homegroup listener, Homegroup provider.

For wireless connectivity with Windows 7, you need to run the network setup wizard for everything to work correctly.

You should also make sure that your Advanced sharing settings are set like the pictures below. The public sharing window may not matter with Homegroups but it sometimes helps to set them up accordingly.

Here are a few tutorials from Brink to help you navigate though the Homegroup set up procedure.
Homegroup - Create
Homegroup - Add Computer or Join
Homegroup - Leave


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11 Dec 2009   #23
RogerR

7 x64 Ultimate
 
 

Went through it all again.

Canceled the homegroup on Comp1 and created new one. Comp2 was asked to join. After the password was entered, windows said Comp2 was unable to join the homegroup. Start troubleshooter; it is recommended that the problems are network related and I should run the network troubleshooter. Network troubleshooter is unable to detect any problems. If I run the homegroup troubleshooter anyway, its say check the time (which I have just synchro'd with time.windows).

I think that pretty much duplicates my previous experiences.
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12 Dec 2009   #24
jeanpascal

windows 7
 
 
solved

thanks, i finaly found that homegroup services were disabled, when reactiveted throught msconfig evrything works...
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12 Dec 2009   #25
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jeanpascal View Post
thanks, i finaly found that homegroup services were disabled, when reactiveted throught msconfig evrything works...


I'am not sure why some of those services seem to be disabled by default on certain machines....strange. Maybe an upgrade problem. Looks like some of what I posted actually helped someone anyway LOL>
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28 Feb 2010   #26
sonick26

Windows 7 x64
 
 
Problem solved!

Hi, I'm sure this will help many of you as I was getting exactly the same problems as a lot of you.

Firstly, I decided to address the problem when my computer was constantly resetting itself and the problem seemed to be getting more frequent.

So, I checked my event log (Computer(rightclick) > Manage > Event Viewer > Windows Logs > System). It showed me a whole bunch of errors containing two services. Either Peer Networking Grouping or Peer Name Resolution Protocol. I checked out Services (type services in the search bar on start) and found that I could not start these two services manually either. I disabled them which stopped my computer restarting itself and cleared the event log of any errors I was receiving before.

I now, however, couldn't see any other computers in my Homegroup and couldn't leave it, change what I was sharing or view the password, which are many of the symptoms you guys were receiving.

How I fixed the problem

Go to C:\Windows\ServiceProfiles\LocalService\AppData\Roaming\PeerNetworking and delete all of the files in this folder. Now restart the computer.

Go to Services again and you should be able to start 'Peer Networking Grouping' and 'Peer Name Resolution Protocol'. Restart the computer again.

When you log on this time, check the event log again, to ensure no errors concerning the two services are present and also check Services to ensure the two services concerned are running.

You should now have full functionality restored to your homegroup.

I hope this helps, let me know if it works.

Nick
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28 Mar 2010   #27
ruggb

windows 7
 
 

HERE is a very interesting solution to this age old issue............

Not withstanding ALL of the above requirements and fixes - there is one last thing that MUST be done to make HOMEGROUPS work..............

You MUST share some FOLDERS. IF there are no FOLDERS shared the system tells u there is no HOMEGROUP...................

u can not just share a DRIVE - u MUST share a folder in the drive. ANY root folder will do and it will share all the subs also.

I would like someone to figure a workaround so that I don't have to go thru ALL my root folders on a drive to share the whole drive --- what a PITA.
I guess I could make a folder "A" and put all the root folders under it. But that will require and extra click to navigate each time the drive is opened - then I could create a special shortcut to open the drive below that folder. ooohhhhhhhhhh meeeeeee
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24 Jun 2010   #28
chev65

Windows 7 Ult, Windows 8.1 Pro,
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ruggb View Post
HERE is a very interesting solution to this age old issue............

Not withstanding ALL of the above requirements and fixes - there is one last thing that MUST be done to make HOMEGROUPS work..............

You MUST share some FOLDERS. IF there are no FOLDERS shared the system tells u there is no HOMEGROUP...................

u can not just share a DRIVE - u MUST share a folder in the drive. ANY root folder will do and it will share all the subs also.

I would like someone to figure a workaround so that I don't have to go thru ALL my root folders on a drive to share the whole drive --- what a PITA.
I guess I could make a folder "A" and put all the root folders under it. But that will require and extra click to navigate each time the drive is opened - then I could create a special shortcut to open the drive below that folder. ooohhhhhhhhhh meeeeeee
Rather than sharing each folder from the root of the drive it's easier to just share the entire drive instead. Although this is not a good idea from a security standpoint it can be done but is more difficult because it's considered a security risk. You would be far better served by sharing the entire User folder instead of sharing the entire drive. Here is how you share the entire drive. This is sometimes required to save back ups to a particular drive.

To share the entire drive:
Open My Computer -> right click Local Disk D or which ever drive letter your drive is using -> select Properties -> select Security tab -> click Edit button -> click Add button -> enter the name of the User you want to set Security permissions (it is the same user name you've set the sharing permissions for, ex. Everyone will set the read permissions to every user. Put check marks in the boxes for full access and control -> click OK hit apply-> select the desired permissions -> click OK -> wait while permissions are set -> and your Done.

You will also need to use the Advanced sharing tab Sharing tab>Advanced Sharing, put a check in the box to share this folder, then click on the permissions button, then the add button, which will get you to the next page, type "Everyone" in the box, then click "ok" then use the check boxes to allow Everyone full access. Hit the apply button on both windows. The pictures below shows where you should be for this.

Everything else you are complaining about is by design and it's there for good reason. If the security wasn't as tight as it is then there would be far more complaints that it wasn't secure enough. Sharing the entire drive works fine as long as you give the sharing and security permissions to Everyone.


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25 Jun 2010   #29
ruggb

windows 7
 
 

CHEV65
Unless u are running a different W7 than the rest of us - the point made is that if all one does is to share the drive NO one can see that drive until one ALSO shares at least ONE FOLDER. ANY OTHER folder u want to share must ALSO be shared - doing that will allow access to ALL sub-folders under that the shared folder.

IT USED TO work by just sharing a drive in older OSs. It SHOULD still work that way but it does not.
M$ infinite wisdom - They have definitely lost some.

WHATEVER I share on my system should share everything under it unless I specifically unshare a sub-folder.

Maybe some EX M$ wiz will create a startup to fix all M$ wisdom.
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15 Apr 2012   #30
Pillow Talk

Windows XP/Windows 7/Ubuntu
 
 

Just wanted to reply to say I was having this issue as well. I fixed it by looking at the DHCP table on the router and discovered that the old computer which created the homegroup was for some reason still in the client list. I removed it, along with some other things that shouldn't be there, refreshed everyone's connection and problem solved.
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