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Windows 7: Don't Know Why

31 Jul 2011   #21
mjf

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Bare Foot Kid View Post
Oh well, that didn't do it.
Annoying! Need to look at the issue outside of this thread I guess.


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31 Jul 2011   #22
treadhead194

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Bare Foot Kid: You probably read where I switched my cables (post 16) and things finally got back to normal. I'm sure you have already tried this. I'd like to know if you did and what the outcome was.
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01 Aug 2011   #23
mjf

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Unfortunately the problem is the apparent disconnect between the motherboard/BIOS sata port numbering and the Windows OS Disk numbering.
I haven't personally had the problem but reading above - BFK certainly has.
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01 Aug 2011   #24
treadhead194

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mjf: I don't know much about computers, I can build them but when it comes to software, I'm at a total loss. I usually rely on a friend of mine to help me there. However in this case, this is like you said possibly hardware & software related. Hardware wise I would try this: Take C and place it into SATA 1, WHY? Well, Windows is going to put C drive in 1 anyway, what can it hurt, then put D into 0, reboot and see what happens. It's a disconnect between C & D, possibly the MB, who knows. In my case leaving C in 0 and putting D in 2 fixed the problem and I have checked since doing that and everything is fine.
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01 Aug 2011   #25
Bare Foot Kid
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by treadhead194 View Post
Bare Foot Kid: You probably read where I switched my cables (post 16) and things finally got back to normal. I'm sure you have already tried this. I'd like to know if you did and what the outcome was.
Hello mate, thanks for the input and good to see you got yours sorted.


If I listed all the different scenarios I've tried it would fill a page of text.
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01 Aug 2011   #26
treadhead194

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bfg: I'm sure it would. I know how things can get frustrating, sometimes I get frustrated just trying to get my pants on.
Please don't get me wrong for asking this but I can't help wondering why so many partitions? Myself, I hate partitions. I would rather have a hundred drives rather than a hundred partitions. Yes it can get expensive but if 1 hard drive goes out you only loose whats on that drive, but if you lose a hard drive that has more than 1 partition you stand to lose much more. Yea, there's a thing called backup but now you have to partition, then restore, why not just restore?. I have a total of 5 drives, 3 internal, no larger than 500gig, and 2 external again no larger than 500gigs. My programs are on C and all my data goes to folders on D. No data is stored on C. E is my work drive so if I want to play with something I use it. G (external) is my backup/programs drive. Whenever I have to re install something, I go here and install and all my stuff is backed up here as well. H (external) is my Windows Image disk, I think the name says what it's used for. I also have two other USB drives which I seldom use but on one of these I backup my G drive just in case.
You know more about Windows than I ever will so if you can't fix the problem, then I guess it can't be fixed. I guess I was just lucky in my case. But if you're like me, persistence will win out and the you can post how to fix this issue.
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01 Aug 2011   #27
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

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Hello mate.


I use partitions like (I think) you use folders, I compartmentalize everything and I absolutely loath Windows 7 Libraries, I don't want Windows deciding where something goes, 'stuff' is mine and I want it where I want it.

I create shortcuts to the partitions I use the most on the desktop of my secondary monitor for easy access, I've just started getting this install in order and this is what I've done so far.
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01 Aug 2011   #28
treadhead194

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I understand what your saying in regards to Windows libraries. I hate the way it hides everything. I have a program which I use to install/uninstall programs and it finds everything the program installed to include the program folder. I think may instead of calling it Windows 7 they should have called it Window Blinds.
In all honesty I hate folders as well as partitions but you have to put things somewhere. In some cases, folders can get quite deep, that could cause some problems as well. I kinda wish there was a way to color the folders. I've tried to change the way a folder looks, and I know you can,but I've never been able to do it the folder always looks the same, maybe I'm doing something wrong, I don't know.
Anyway, in regards to the disk numbering, I guess as long as Windows boots and isn't casing any problems, I guess were're stuck with it. The only thing though is to remember that C is Disk 1 and to disconnect all other disks prior to fixing C should the need arise. I guess that's the bottom line.
I just happen to come across the fact that they are in the process of making a Windows 8. Maybe, just maybe, they might have resolved the problem in this OS. I have no idea as to when they're going to release it, you probably know more about that than I do, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see.
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01 Aug 2011   #29
Bare Foot Kid
Microsoft MVP

W 7 64-bit Ultimate
 
 

Yes there's a Windows 8 coming, have a look at this link below.


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02 Aug 2011   #30
mjf

Windows 7x64 Home Premium SP1
 
 
Why Windows Keeps the Disk Number

This is how I currently see process.
The BIOS program understands the PC hardware and maintains the list of bootable options on offer to the OS. Once the BIOS determines a HDD has an appropriate MBR, control is passed to the MBR boot code which passes control over to the active partition. The bootmanager along with the BCD determine the location of winload.exe which is run to load the Windows 7 OS. It's at this stage the OS proper takes over and it manages the OS Disk numbering independently of the physical Port numbering.
For the installed HDDs the OS uses the disk signature which is a unique 4 byte code which lives in the MBR. The OS generates this signature when the MBR is first created during initialisation and a disk number is assigned. This assignment is stored in the registry.
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This shows Disk 0 and Disk 1 in the registry. Disk 0 is the OS disk and Disk 1 is a Data disk.
When the Data Disk is unallocated and the MBR zeroed then initialized and formatted, Disk Management shows it in Disk 0 position.
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When the PC is rebooted the OS assigns Disk 0 to the disk with the matching disk signature in the registry.
At the end of this test the OS is still Disk 0 and the Data disk is still Disk 1 but now with a new signature on the disk and in the registry.

Also Disk 0 is on Sata Port 6 and Disk 1 is on Sata Port 1.


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