2012 Conspiracies..

[profdlp]

Whew - in that case I'll try and relax.

 

[bigmck]

well, since christ was actually born in 4 or 5 b.c. (the calendar guy got the year wrong)

Would this be Bill Gates who couldn't make the computers show BC on the calendar?

 

[seekermeister]

well, since christ was actually born in 4 or 5 b.c. (the calendar guy got the year wrong), it is actually now 2015 or 2016 a.d., so this is all moot as it's past already.

I don't believe that God marks time by man's calendar.

 

[carwiz]

I don't think anyone really knows what year it is anyway. The current year ranges from the Bahá'í calendar year of 167 to the Byzantine calendar year of 7520. It's only by International agreement on the Gregorian calendar that we are now in 2011. And that didn't even exist until 1582. That calendar took almost 200 years to adopt around the World. There were so many adjustments to the days over the years that for all we know, the Maya equivalent of 12/21/2012 could have passed last February. Or even 500 years ago. :shock:

 

[seekermeister]

I seriously doubt that the Mayans expressed dates in the fashion that we do. I would imagine that someone converted it to work with the current calendar.

 

[carwiz]

I seriously doubt that the Mayans expressed dates in the fashion that we do. I would imagine that someone converted it to work with the current calendar.

Exactly! That's why I said the "equivalent of".

 

[seekermeister]

Perhaps I misunderstood, but it sounded as though you were discounting the credibility of the date 12/21/2011 as being the actual date corresponding to the Mayan calendar. What I was saying is that it probably is correct.

 

[carwiz]

I agree. I'm not arguing with you. It may be correct. Just as it may not be because scientist are using the current standard of time and looking back. Before the 16th century, there was no agreement even on how many days were in a year or how many months for that matter. There really wasn't even "months" on the Maya calendar. Their symbols for time dealt with seasons--Hours and days didn't exist except by perception. I'm just saying that the measure of time over the last 3,000+ years has not been constant. Before that, there was daylight and dark. The only way we've been able to correlate periods is because someone scratched star arrangements on a rock. Time is a very "modern" conception in the history of Earth.

 

[Wishmaster]

The Mayans expressed time in cycles. Not BC and AC.

To them, time was just a repeating cycle of events. And history repeated itself over and over.


Cycles were days, seasons, eclipse cycles etc.

Their calendars were quite complex and tracked many things. Even the 9 month cycle of preganacy.
Its quite interesting how it worked. Wheels within wheels ... counting down, everything.


Dec. 2012 date is a rough estimate on the part of science.
They basically figured out what the cycles were, how they work, and how long it takes.

So to figure out when the event at the end of the Long count happens, they have to figure out what the actual start date of the Mayan calander is.


Which, is a bit wierd.
Because if we they off on the start date, that throws the entire Mayan calandar off.

 

[profdlp]

...the measure of time over the last 3,000+ years has not been constant. Before that, there was daylight and dark...

After that, too.

At least so far...

 

[carwiz]

As I said (with tongue in cheek), the 12/21/2012 "equivalent" could have been last February.

 

[carwiz]

...the measure of time over the last 3,000+ years has not been constant. Before that, there was daylight and dark...

After that, too.

At least so far...

You must be retired. I look forward to looking backward and experience the no clock life.

 

[profdlp]

...the measure of time over the last 3,000+ years has not been constant. Before that, there was daylight and dark...

After that, too.

At least so far...

You must be retired. I look forward to looking backward and experience the no clock life.

Not yet. I'm actually a fifty-two year old college student.

(I got held back a couple times...)

 

[carwiz]

Oh yeah, I remember those days and nights--Lots of them. Between working, studying and raising a family many of my days and nights ran together. I once took on 14hrs for two semesters straight. That nearly killed me. I scaled back to 8-10 and it was still rough. It pays back in the end though. I admire your grit!

 

[Solarstarshines]

For anyone looking for more fodder for the conspiracy fires, take a look at this one:

WORMWOOD Trumpet = “Nuking the Moon” The Moon is Frozen H2O- An Orbiting Ice-ball « Witness Watch

It's even more offbeat than the rest.

That's a eye opener a co-worker was explaining to me there is a device to make earthquakes and other natual disasters at will .If this is true and concelled alot of the big time shakes could have been cause by other powers :sarc: something to think about

 

[seekermeister]

For anyone looking for more fodder for the conspiracy fires, take a look at this one:

WORMWOOD Trumpet = “Nuking the Moon” The Moon is Frozen H2O- An Orbiting Ice-ball « Witness Watch

It's even more offbeat than the rest.

That's a eye opener a co-worker was explaining to me there is a device to make earthquakes and other natual disasters at will .If this is true and concelled alot of the big time shakes could have been cause by other powers :sarc: something to think about

I must admit that I only read about half of that article, but didn't come across anything suggesting a device as you described. I'm uncertain if you are being serious, or tongue in cheek.

 

[kronckew]

shhh! don't let anyone know about that earthquake device. us mayans have been keeping it secret for many moons. lets not blow it now we are close. on 12/12/12, give or take, we will use it to shake the ice moon and cause immense tidal waves everywhere except in our hidden kingdom below the capital city of KootchyKootchyKoo on the yuckitan penninsula. survival tickets, including food, lodging, travel, and entertainment* are available thru most travel agents. special family and group discounts. book early to avoid disappointment and subsequent flooding. please note that some people may be selected for human sacrifice to power the device. selectees may apply for a refund of the remaining portion of their ticket after the event. due to the destruction of the world banking system, only ryan air pre-paid debit cards will be accepted. a 10% surcharge applies.

*- a nominal fee for use of facilities, rental of eating implements, bedding, protection from ravening hordes of displaced non-ticket holders, etc. may be applied at our discretion after arrival and prior to provision of services.

 

[Solarstarshines]

For anyone looking for more fodder for the conspiracy fires, take a look at this one:

WORMWOOD Trumpet = “Nuking the Moon” The Moon is Frozen H2O- An Orbiting Ice-ball « Witness Watch

It's even more offbeat than the rest.

That's a eye opener a co-worker was explaining to me there is a device to make earthquakes and other natual disasters at will .If this is true and concelled alot of the big time shakes could have been cause by other powers :sarc: something to think about

I must admit that I only read about half of that article, but didn't come across anything suggesting a device as you described. I'm uncertain if you are being serious, or tongue in cheek.

Well this info that i mentioned about the device is something a buddy was reading about ,This guy i know is a walking conspiracy he is always saying tupak is alive and all other BS i could think of

I don't want to Imagine a world where men have such power but who knows it seems like it is going that way ,Our children will be the one's dealing with the mistakes of these Figures we have in charge today which they almost feel doomed

 

[derekimo]

For anyone looking for more fodder for the conspiracy fires, take a look at this one:

WORMWOOD Trumpet = “Nuking the Moon” The Moon is Frozen H2O- An Orbiting Ice-ball « Witness Watch

It's even more offbeat than the rest.

That's a eye opener a co-worker was explaining to me there is a device to make earthquakes and other natual disasters at will .If this is true and concelled alot of the big time shakes could have been cause by other powers :sarc: something to think about

Tesla had an Earthquake machine......sort of,

Nikola Tesla: Mechanical Oscillator ~ US Patent # 514,169 & # 517,900 ~ Tele-Geodynamics

 

[bigmck]

I don't think anyone really knows what year it is anyway. The current year ranges from the Bahá'í calendar year of 167 to the Byzantine calendar year of 7520. It's only by International agreement on the Gregorian calendar that we are now in 2011. And that didn't even exist until 1582. That calendar took almost 200 years to adopt around the World. There were so many adjustments to the days over the years that for all we know, the Maya equivalent of 12/21/2012 could have passed last February. Or even 500 years ago. :shock:

Your post got me to thinking about Leap Year. I looked it up and here is what I found.

The system of three 365-day years followed by one 366-day
Leap Year began in 47 B.C. The extra day was added to the
last month of the year, which at that time was February.​

They didn't even know the Earth revolved around the sun until 1500 years later.
I don't see how they could have had a Leap Year in 47 BC.​