2012 Conspiracies..

[seekermeister]

The ancient world had a keen awareness of time, and they were aware of the change in the annual time changes, even though they didn't know what the cause was. It should also be noted that it can't be taken for granted that all ancient civilizations were equally ignorant of this aspect of the nature of earthly behavior. Too often we forget that the history of human knowledge is recorded for only the one recognized as our forerunners.

EDIT: Despite the fact that they believe that the celestial bodies were the ones revolving around the Earth, rather than the opposite, the perspective of time would still have been the same.

 

[profdlp]

Hold on a minute - you mean to tell me that the earth revolves around the sun? :sarc:

Ignore my previous predictions - I got me some recalculating to do.

 

[carwiz]

Actually, Aristarchus proposed the theory that Earth revolved around the Sun about 260 BC. Ptolemy proposed the same around 140 AD, but you're right. It wasn't until the time of Copernicus, about 1400 years later, that the theory was revived and accepted. But that wouldn't have made a difference in the observed solar and lunar cycles. Egypt had a solar-lunar calendar around 2,000 BC.

 

[carwiz]

I feel much younger now after all this talk about the multitude of centuries. (d)

 

[seekermeister]

I don't feel any younger, but it does tend to put life into perspective.

 

[seekermeister]

Actually, Aristarchus proposed the theory that Earth revolved around the Sun about 260 BC. Ptolemy proposed the same around 140 AD, but you're right. It wasn't until the time of Copernicus, about 1400 years later, that the theory was revived and accepted. But that wouldn't have made a difference in the observed solar and lunar cycles. Egypt had a solar-lunar calendar around 2,000 BC.

One theorist earlier than those:

Philolaus (4th century BC) was also one of the first to hypothesize movement of the Earth

Copernican heliocentrism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[seekermeister]

It seems appropriate to insert that the Hebrew calendar year is 5769, which indicates how long that they have been calculating time via the lunar cycles. This represents their calculation of time since Adam and Eve (or perhaps more accurately, the amount of time since time began, since time is a human concept).

 

[bigmck]

I remember in the mid 1950's seeing the first picture of the curviture of the Earth. They sent a rocket up and it was able to take a picture of just a small arc of the Earth, probably 30 or 40 degrees. This was supposedly the proof that the Earth was round. How things have changed in such a short time. I can turn on my TV and the Dish Network has a station where you can see the entire Earth.

 

[carwiz]

Actually, Aristarchus proposed the theory that Earth revolved around the Sun about 260 BC. Ptolemy proposed the same around 140 AD, but you're right. It wasn't until the time of Copernicus, about 1400 years later, that the theory was revived and accepted. But that wouldn't have made a difference in the observed solar and lunar cycles. Egypt had a solar-lunar calendar around 2,000 BC.

One theorist earlier than those:

Philolaus (4th century BC) was also one of the first to hypothesize movement of the Earth

Copernican heliocentrism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That's questionable but not unproven. His movement of the Earth idea was based on a broader scale--Think Milky Way. He grouped the known planets and the Sun together on their movement and not specifically that the Earth revolved around our Sun. At the time, our Solar System was the known Universe so he was indeed ahead of his time.

 

[bigmck]

That's questionable but not unproven. His movement of the Earth idea was based on a broader scale--Think Milky Way. He grouped the known planets and the Sun together on their movement and not specifically that the Earth revolved around our Sun. At the time, our Solar System was the known Universe so he was indeed ahead of his time.

I am still upset that Pluto isn't a planet anymore.

 

[seekermeister]

If you want it to be a planet, then it is a planet...regardless of what a bunch of scientists may say. What is the saying...beauty is in your/my eye?

 

[carwiz]

I haven't heard the latest but I remember it still being a planet but reclassified as a dwarf planet. Or was it an ice giant? I don't know. I think they added two more dwarf planets to our Solar System too. You'd think that with the ability of Hubble to "see" objects 50-60 trillion miles away they could have better images of our "local" planets only a few billion miles away.

 

[seekermeister]

I don't know about two, but there is at least one new one:

10th Planet Discovered - NASA Science

EDIT: I guess that article is somewhat old, because I found another in which the planet is called Eris. However, it is uncertain if science will continue to consider it a planet, because they now say that it is about the same size as Pluto.

 

[Wishmaster]

I don't know about two, but there is at least one new one:

10th Planet Discovered - NASA Science

EDIT: I guess that article is somewhat old, because I found another in which the planet is called Eris. However, it is uncertain if science will continue to consider it a planet, because they now say that it is about the same size as Pluto.

Its Nibiru!!

But seriously,
I seem to remember a drawing ( I want to say Samarian) where they said we did have 10 planets.


Was a bit interesting. Simply because they had all the known planets and orbits mapped out, except that they had the 10th one in there. And that was 6,000 years ago so ...

Or maybe it was 9 planets and 2 stars (binary star system) they said we lived in..
Blah, Id have to research into it again. I forget the exact details.

At any count, according to them, the 10th planet or star is on a long eliptical orbit

 

[seekermeister]

Long elliptical orbit...I hope it's not wormwood.

 

[carwiz]

I think you guys are both right. Eris and Nibiru were added. And there's a third--Ceres.

NASA's Dawn spacecraft is due to reach Ceres, a dwarf planet in the asteroid belt, in February 2015, so it could become the first spacecraft to visit a dwarf planet, if Dawn reaches Ceres before New Horizons reaches Pluto.

 

[seekermeister]

Ceres is an asteroid discovered in 1801. As far as I know, Nibiru is only the name of a planet in a game called Nibiru Age Of Secrets.

EDIT: I Googled and found that Nibiru is a name given to a theoretical planet that is thought by some to be on a collision course with Earth...AKA Wormwood.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision

 

[Coke Robot]

I don't want to brag, but I've survived through the end of days about three times now. 2012, bring it!

 

[seekermeister]

You may quite possibly survive until the true end of days, but despite how you may feel about it, no one has done so yet.

 

[carwiz]

Ceres was upgraded to a dwarf planet. You're right--No Nibiru.

Solar System Exploration: Planets: Dwarf Planets: Overview