A start up oddity

rundwald

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Since my computer came back from the repair man, having been re-installed and with a new graphics card, a DOS screen appears very briefly.

Can anyone tell me why this is happening now? Please!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 560MT
OS
Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
2.9 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory cac
Motherboard
Board: Dell Inc. 0K83V0 A00 Serial Number: ..CN750939CP069B
Memory
4096 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory Slot 'DIMM0' has 102
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device NVIDIA High Definition Audio (
Monitor(s) Displays
DELL ST2210 [Monitor] (21.7"vis, s/n P479R01Q0VCU, January 2
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
628.58 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
554.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
Keyboard
Std Dell UK
Mouse
KEYBOARD, 105, UNITED KINGDOM, KWE9C0
Internet Speed
~8000 kbps
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Avast Free
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Office 2007: Photo Editing; Serif PhotoPlus X7
I would say that is a program that you are running :)

I would disable all start up programs apart from the Microsoft ones.

Click Start

In the search bar type "msconfig"

Then go to the startup tab and disable them all and enable one by one :)
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell / Lenovo g550
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @2.33GHz
Motherboard
foxconn g33m02
Memory
4GB DDR"
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GS
Hard Drives
HDD 1 = 150GB
HDD 2 = 1.5TB
PSU
450W
Cooling
Stock fan
Internet Speed
12Mb
Antivirus
AVG Internet Security
Is it a full screen BIOS screen during boot up, or a small command prompt window that just briefly appears on screen when Windows loads?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built
OS
Windows 10 Education 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
Memory
8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
Sound Card
VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
Screen Resolution
1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial M100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
PSU
Thermaltake TR 620
Case
Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Cooling
Stock heatsink and fan
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M570 Trackman Wheel
Internet Speed
80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
I'd say a Command Prompt that covers 1/4 screen, that appears momentarily between my inputting password and appearance of desktop
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 560MT
OS
Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
2.9 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory cac
Motherboard
Board: Dell Inc. 0K83V0 A00 Serial Number: ..CN750939CP069B
Memory
4096 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory Slot 'DIMM0' has 102
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device NVIDIA High Definition Audio (
Monitor(s) Displays
DELL ST2210 [Monitor] (21.7"vis, s/n P479R01Q0VCU, January 2
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
628.58 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
554.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
Keyboard
Std Dell UK
Mouse
KEYBOARD, 105, UNITED KINGDOM, KWE9C0
Internet Speed
~8000 kbps
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Office 2007: Photo Editing; Serif PhotoPlus X7
I would first go with what Benji suggested, turn off all unnecessary startup items and then go from there. let us know if that fixes anything.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build (multiple machines)
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x86, Windows 7 Professional x64, Windows 8 Pro x64
CPU
AMD Athlon 7750 Dual-Core 2.70 GHz
Motherboard
ECS GF8200A
Memory
3GB
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 24''
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Esentials
Browser
IE, Chrome, Firefox (Primary)
Other Info
Will update a full list soon...am planning on upgrading my system later this summer anyways.
Yes that is what I would start with.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell / Lenovo g550
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6550 @2.33GHz
Motherboard
foxconn g33m02
Memory
4GB DDR"
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GS
Hard Drives
HDD 1 = 150GB
HDD 2 = 1.5TB
PSU
450W
Cooling
Stock fan
Internet Speed
12Mb
Antivirus
AVG Internet Security
Nothing needs to startup with Win7 except your AV so there's no reason to add them back after disabling in the msconfig>Startup or >Services (after Hiding all MS Services) tabs unless its something you absolutely must have running at boot because you use it then. Otherwise they're freeloaders and likely spying on you.

How is performance otherwise? If you'd like to go over your install closely here are the basic Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7
 
Is it a full screen BIOS screen during boot up, or a small command prompt window that just briefly appears on screen when Windows loads?

This is what it sounds like to me. If disabling some of your start up programs doesn't work then I would go into the BIOS and look into this. Inside the BIOS you typically have the option to change what your boot screens look like. Weather you want a full screen / half screen logo, or if you want certain command prompts and or warnings to show, and even the display time of each screen. Your computer guy could have reset the motherboard which would have changed any personal settings back to default.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Core i7-2700K Sandy Bridge 3.5GHz
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V Pro
Memory
Corsair Vengeance 16GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Asus GeForce GTX 670 2GB
Sound Card
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme 7.1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 24" LED Monitor
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Corsair Force GT 240GB SSD
Western Digital 3TB HDD
PSU
Corsair AX860i Fully-Modular
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922 Powder Coated White
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S
Keyboard
Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Stealth Edition
Mouse
Razer Mamba
Internet Speed
Verizon FiOS 20Mbps
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Internet Explorer
Other Info
Razer Tiamat 7.1 Surround Sound Headset
Is it a full screen BIOS screen during boot up, or a small command prompt window that just briefly appears on screen when Windows loads?

This is what it sounds like to me. If disabling some of your start up programs doesn't work then I would go into the BIOS and look into this. Inside the BIOS you typically have the option to change what your boot screens look like. Weather you want a full screen / half screen logo, or if you want certain command prompts and or warnings to show, and even the display time of each screen. Your computer guy could have reset the motherboard which would have changed any personal settings back to default.

Turning fast boot off in the BIOS will often get you a more detailed BIOS Boot screen that looks a lot like the old style Dos screen. That's why I asked for a better description. It sounds like its a small command shell windows opening briefly though. That may be a result of a script being run at boot up or possibly a driver being loaded.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built
OS
Windows 10 Education 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X4 980 Black Edition Deneb 3.7GHz
Motherboard
Asus M4N68T-M V2 µATX Motherboard
Memory
8GB 4GBx2 Kingston PC10600 DDR3 1333 Memory
Graphics Card(s)
Zotac NVIDIA Geforce GT640 2 Gig DDR3 PCIe
Sound Card
VIA VT1708s High Definition Audio 8-channel Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
22" LG E2242 1080p and 2 19" I-INC AG191D
Screen Resolution
1280x1024 - 1920x1080 - 1280x1024
Hard Drives
Crucial M100 256 GB SSD and 500 GB WD Blue SATA
PSU
Thermaltake TR 620
Case
Power Up Black ATX Mid-Tower Case
Cooling
Stock heatsink and fan
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless K350 Wave
Mouse
Logitech Wireless M570 Trackman Wheel
Internet Speed
80 Mbps Down 30 Mbps Up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Internet Explorer 11
Other Info
HP DVD1040e Lightscribe - External USB2
I'd say a Command Prompt that covers 1/4 screen, that appears momentarily between my inputting password and appearance of desktop
Is it a Windows password or a BIOS (Setup) password?
Could a PC display a BIOS (bootup) screen after the PC is that far into the startup process where the Windows password is entered?
It sounds like something in Windows startup to me...
MS Sysinternals Autoruns may help find the culprit.
Autoruns for Windows
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
So far disabling the few start up items has had no effect. With the ZA ones it seems that (see att) only one in the list may be disabled at a time. Also I see in the list ( again see att) that some other items seem to be duplicated too. I am sole user with Admin rights can those dups be right?
 

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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 560MT
OS
Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
2.9 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory cac
Motherboard
Board: Dell Inc. 0K83V0 A00 Serial Number: ..CN750939CP069B
Memory
4096 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory Slot 'DIMM0' has 102
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device NVIDIA High Definition Audio (
Monitor(s) Displays
DELL ST2210 [Monitor] (21.7"vis, s/n P479R01Q0VCU, January 2
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
628.58 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
554.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
Keyboard
Std Dell UK
Mouse
KEYBOARD, 105, UNITED KINGDOM, KWE9C0
Internet Speed
~8000 kbps
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Office 2007: Photo Editing; Serif PhotoPlus X7
They are probably not duplicates, they are probably 3 different things from ZoneAlarm (which you should uninstall) and 3 different things from Intel. You need to expand the column for the command to tell what is actually being started. One seems to start with Cmd.exe - you minght want to uncheck that one.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Employer provided Dell Latitude
OS
W7 Pro SP1 64bit
CPU
i7
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics
Hard Drives
crappy SSD
Antivirus
Employer mandated Symantec Endpoint Protection
Browser
Pale Moon 64bit, IE11 64bit & Chrome 64bit
Whoever worked on your pc enabled the boot time diagnostics screen, if you go into your bios you can disable it. You should then see the manufacturer`s logo again.

There`s no reason to tinker with msconfig, it has nothing to do with what you`re seeing.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
Whoever worked on your pc enabled the boot time diagnostics screen, if you go into your bios you can disable it. You should then see the manufacturer`s logo again.

There`s no reason to tinker with msconfig, it has nothing to do with what you`re seeing.

Your comment about msconfig is puzzling as I was following post #2.

Also not dure how manufacturer's logo enters the thread.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 560MT
OS
Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
2.9 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory cac
Motherboard
Board: Dell Inc. 0K83V0 A00 Serial Number: ..CN750939CP069B
Memory
4096 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory Slot 'DIMM0' has 102
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device NVIDIA High Definition Audio (
Monitor(s) Displays
DELL ST2210 [Monitor] (21.7"vis, s/n P479R01Q0VCU, January 2
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
628.58 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
554.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
Keyboard
Std Dell UK
Mouse
KEYBOARD, 105, UNITED KINGDOM, KWE9C0
Internet Speed
~8000 kbps
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Office 2007: Photo Editing; Serif PhotoPlus X7
@UsernameIssues

It was the cmd exe item that I hadn't disabled, it being an MSoft item. Another incidental matter is that the boot tab reveals as in attachment one current and three old versions. Despite being deleted under advanced options the old ones come back on restarts
 

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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 560MT
OS
Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
2.9 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory cac
Motherboard
Board: Dell Inc. 0K83V0 A00 Serial Number: ..CN750939CP069B
Memory
4096 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory Slot 'DIMM0' has 102
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device NVIDIA High Definition Audio (
Monitor(s) Displays
DELL ST2210 [Monitor] (21.7"vis, s/n P479R01Q0VCU, January 2
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
628.58 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
554.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
Keyboard
Std Dell UK
Mouse
KEYBOARD, 105, UNITED KINGDOM, KWE9C0
Internet Speed
~8000 kbps
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Office 2007: Photo Editing; Serif PhotoPlus X7
Highlight each listing shown above besides C and delete it there in the Boot tab.

You don't need the Intel Startup items unless you're overclocking or using other specialized settings found only the intel panels.

I would not use ZoneAlarm as we see nothing but problems with it here.

Uninstall ZoneAlarm and install Microsoft Security Essentials or Avast free with the Windows 7 firewall which is perfected in Win7.
 
Got rid of Intel lines.

I installed ZA Av and Fw as Avast was apparently mucking things up,but that was when I was having lots of BSODs leading to clean install and new graphics card, and ZA Fw seemed to be the easiest to use and not intrusive like others. How does ZA cause problems as you have stated?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 560MT
OS
Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
2.9 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory cac
Motherboard
Board: Dell Inc. 0K83V0 A00 Serial Number: ..CN750939CP069B
Memory
4096 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory Slot 'DIMM0' has 102
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device NVIDIA High Definition Audio (
Monitor(s) Displays
DELL ST2210 [Monitor] (21.7"vis, s/n P479R01Q0VCU, January 2
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
628.58 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
554.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
Keyboard
Std Dell UK
Mouse
KEYBOARD, 105, UNITED KINGDOM, KWE9C0
Internet Speed
~8000 kbps
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Office 2007: Photo Editing; Serif PhotoPlus X7
I have only seen it mentioned here causing problems, nothing else. The Windows firewall is perfected in Win7 so it seems unnecessary to replace it.

But if it works for you and you paid for it then keep it. Let us know how it goes.
 
:D Free version, too mean for bought!
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 560MT
OS
Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
2.9 gigahertz Intel Core2 Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory cac
Motherboard
Board: Dell Inc. 0K83V0 A00 Serial Number: ..CN750939CP069B
Memory
4096 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory Slot 'DIMM0' has 102
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device NVIDIA High Definition Audio (
Monitor(s) Displays
DELL ST2210 [Monitor] (21.7"vis, s/n P479R01Q0VCU, January 2
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
628.58 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
554.78 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space
Keyboard
Std Dell UK
Mouse
KEYBOARD, 105, UNITED KINGDOM, KWE9C0
Internet Speed
~8000 kbps
Antivirus
Avast Free
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Office 2007: Photo Editing; Serif PhotoPlus X7
Just curious, what was the cmd prompt entry [was] doing?

If you still have the entry in msconfig, maybe you could expand the command column and see what else is on that line.
 
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My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Employer provided Dell Latitude
OS
W7 Pro SP1 64bit
CPU
i7
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD Graphics
Hard Drives
crappy SSD
Antivirus
Employer mandated Symantec Endpoint Protection
Browser
Pale Moon 64bit, IE11 64bit & Chrome 64bit
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