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Hey guys,

so, I've got a laptop with a Windows partition and an Ubuntu partition. I'm pretty sure I just botched an Ubuntu upgrade.

What I'd like to do is get my documents off of the Ubuntu partition. Is there a way to access that partition from windows (i.e. the window's partition)?

-eamon
 

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win7 can't read those file systems! Boot into linux livecd and copy the files to a FAT32 partition.
Win7 can read that afterwards
 

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Ntfs

win7 can't read those file systems! Boot into linux livecd and copy the files to a FAT32 partition.
Win7 can read that afterwards

Why bother with FAT?
Ubuntu can read/write NTFS data.

The only "problem" I've noticed is that it generally read/writes at about 50% of the speed you'd see in Windows (i.e. on my PC: ~30 MB/s versus ~60 MB/s)

Googling a little about an easy way for doing that, found that article: 3 Ways to Access Your Linux Partitions From Windows - How-To Geek

Basically, Windows cannot read EXT partitions directly on its own, but there are a few programs/drivers that can make it able to use them normally. Never tried it, though.

I have tried a couple, but they were a little bit flaky or demanded payments.

You should be able to access the data using your Ubuntu CD.
 

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Why bother with FAT?
Ubuntu can read/write NTFS data.

The only "problem" I've noticed is that it generally read/writes at about 50% of the speed you'd see in Windows (i.e. on my PC: ~30 MB/s versus ~60 MB/s)

If you do that the ntfs volume is written to WITHOUT updating system restore stuff. All restore points will be invalid. You can't do a system restore afterwards. Unless you delete all restore points and create a new one.
 

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Interesting

If you do that the ntfs volume is written to WITHOUT updating system restore stuff. All restore points will be invalid. You can't do a system restore afterwards. Unless you delete all restore points and create a new one.

I must admit I've never tried doing a System Restore just after writing from Ubuntu.
In any case, I only run System Restore on my OS partition.

All of my data is on other partitions and I image those (so that issue has never come up).

Thanks for that info Kaktussoft. :)

P.S.
I didn't know that System Restore worked on FAT.
 
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If you do that the ntfs volume is written to WITHOUT updating system restore stuff. All restore points will be invalid. You can't do a system restore afterwards. Unless you delete all restore points and create a new one.

I must admit I've never tried doing a System Restore just after writing from Ubuntu.
In any case, I only run System Restore on my OS partition.

All of my data is on other partitions and I image those (so that issue has never come up).

Thanks for that info Kaktussoft. :)

P.S.
I didn't know that System Restore worked on FAT.
I told him to write the files to FAT partition instead of NTFS. Only NTFS supports system restore (actually volume shadowing). But only if written to by WIN7/WIN8/VISTA. If linux or some rescuetool writes to it, they become invalid!
 

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ACER ASPIRE 5742G
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
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Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
Acer Aspire 5742G
Memory
4,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
WDC WD5000BEVT-22ZAT0
Ah, I see

I told him to write the files to FAT partition instead of NTFS. Only NTFS supports system restore (actually volume shadowing). But only if written to by WIN7/WIN8/VISTA. If linux or some rescuetool writes to it, they become invalid!

Thanks for that clarification Kaktussoft. :)
I thought that was the case.

However since System Restore doesn't work on FAT, why not just create another NTFS partition and disable System Restore, on that partition only?
Ubuntu and W7 can both write to it and you would get the other benefits of NTFS (compared to FAT).

Are you saying that even if you disable System Restore on a NTFS partition and then you write to it using Ubuntu, all of the other System Restore points (on other partitions) become corrupted?
 

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I told him to write the files to FAT partition instead of NTFS. Only NTFS supports system restore (actually volume shadowing). But only if written to by WIN7/WIN8/VISTA. If linux or some rescuetool writes to it, they become invalid!

Thanks for that clarification Kaktussoft. :)
I thought that was the case.

However since System Restore doesn't work on FAT, why not just create another NTFS partition and disable System Restore, on that partition only?
Ubuntu and W7 can both write to it and you would get the other benefits of NTFS (compared to FAT).

Are you saying that even if you disable System Restore on a NTFS partition and then you write to it using Ubuntu, all of the other System Restore points (on other partitions) become corrupted?
If you write to an NTFS partition not from vista,win7,win8.... that partition's restore points become invalid.

I just wanted to say: Don't use the OS-partition to transfer the files to.
 

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Laptop
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ACER ASPIRE 5742G
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
Acer Aspire 5742G
Memory
4,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
WDC WD5000BEVT-22ZAT0
Thanks Kaktussoft

If you write to an NTFS partition not from vista,win7,win8.... that partition's restore points become invalid.

I just wanted to say: Don't use the OS-partition to transfer the files to.

I'm glad we cleared that up. :)
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
n/a
OS
W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2

My Computer My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home Ultimate 64-Bit, Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx, Windows XP
CPU
Pentium i7 @fast
Memory
6GB DDR3 @fast
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series (512mb) / ATI TV Wonder 650PCIe
Sound Card
Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
32" VIZIO HDTV
Screen Resolution
1080p @super sharp
Hard Drives
Internal 500GB @7200rpm and not big enough cache
External 500GB @7200rpm and not big enough cache
Cooling
My apartment's AC / Chicago Winters
Keyboard
LG Bluetooth
Mouse
LG Bluetooth
Internet Speed
~21.50Mb/S Down, ~3.5Mb/S Up
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