Ati 5850 black edition

[Alsisgevat]

Hi all,i currently have the gtx 285 black edition,and i am looking at getting the xfx 5850 black edition,it looks like a nice card and is very cheap for its performance,but would like to know from a few experts point of views about the card and other cards,i know the 5870 is faster but allsow more exspencive(i can get 2 5850's for the price of 1 5870) and allsow if Nvidias 400 series with physx is better choice?

 

[Lordbob75]

The 5850 is going to have better performance (not to mention DX11) than the 285.
The PhysX is only going to make a difference for PhysX enabled games.

I am not sure if 2 5850s will beat a 5870 in performance, but I can tell you that the advantages of having just 1 GPU outweigh the small price difference.
At least in my opinion.

~Lordbob

 

[Alsisgevat]

Cool,thanx man,is bit rate important?The 285 is 512mb and the 2850 is 256...

 

[Solarstarshines]

bit rate is important but if you are looking for speed and increased fram rate you could just get the 5870

I can tell you i was considering the new 6800 series gpu but still will be slower then a 5870 and it is a 100,00 less at best

I can tell you right now i would lean more towards the 5870 im leaning towards it too all ati did was revamp a old card to bring it up to par thats all

 

[Alsisgevat]

Ok,so you would rather take a 5870 tahn the 5850?And what about Nvidias fancy cuda and physx stuf?

 

[Solarstarshines]

not alot of games use physx yet but will be more soon if you want a nvidia type vidcard equal or more the gtx 480 fermi is the ticket but im a ati guy now and it would be more suitable to just pay a little extra for the big gun

I fear the prices really wont change till the new gpu's get settled in

 

[Lordbob75]

Cool,thanx man,is bit rate important?The 285 is 512mb and the 2850 is 256...

Bit rate would be the transfer rate between the motherboard and GPU. Higher is better.

Ok,so you would rather take a 5870 tahn the 5850?And what about Nvidias fancy cuda and physx stuf?

I would go for 1 5870 over 2 5850s, but if you are only going to buy one 5850, then just do that. It is still a good card though.

~Lordbob

 

[Solarstarshines]

Cool,thanx man,is bit rate important?The 285 is 512mb and the 2850 is 256...

Bit rate would be the transfer rate between the motherboard and GPU. Higher is better.

Ok,so you would rather take a 5870 tahn the 5850?And what about Nvidias fancy cuda and physx stuf?

I would go for 1 5870 over 2 5850s, but if you are only going to buy one 5850, then just do that. It is still a good card though.

~Lordbob

+1

 

[SlackerITGuy]

Hi all,i currently have the gtx 285 black edition,and i am looking at getting the xfx 5850 black edition,it looks like a nice card and is very cheap for its performance,but would like to know from a few experts point of views about the card and other cards,i know the 5870 is faster but allsow more exspencive(i can get 2 5850's for the price of 1 5870) and allsow if Nvidias 400 series with physx is better choice?

HD 5850 > GTX 285.

With that said. I'd look into AMD's newly released HD 6800 series cards. The HD 6870 in particular smokes any HD 5850 in the market right now for about ~$30 less, and they scale remarkably well (surpasing NVIDIA's SLI scaling level performance).

But If I were you, I'd wait until ~mid November for Cayman (AMD's HD 6900 series cards), they are touting these cards like the next R300 (Radeon 9700 Pro, probably the best card of all time).

 

[Solarstarshines]

I don't know slaker i been reading these cards barley match a 5850 if you can shoot me some of your reviews i might still look into that gpu all i have to do is order it

 

[SlackerITGuy]

I don't know slaker i been reading these cards barley match a 5850 if you can shoot me some of your reviews i might still look into that gpu all i have to do is order it

Radeon HD 6850 & 6870 review

Radeon HD 6870 Bad Company 2 Performance | bit-tech.net

There you go.

 

[Solarstarshines]

thanks not much of a diffrence from the 5870 from that card by almost 8 [points very nice thank you

 

[sygnus21]

I wouldn't exactly base my decision on just that....

- Rage3D.com : AMD Radeon HD 6870 & HD 6850 Launch Review [ Gaming Performance - 1920x1080 ]

- Radeon HD 6870 vs 5870 *|*Visualdreamers.com

 

[Solarstarshines]

I wouldn't exactly base my decision on just that....

- Rage3D.com : AMD Radeon HD 6870 & HD 6850 Launch Review [ Gaming Performance - 1920x1080 ]

- Radeon HD 6870 vs 5870 *|*Visualdreamers.com

well defently not just that i was thanking him for information which seems to be the focal point here pretty much on a minor scale the 6870 is very close to the 5870 and i wouldnt doubt if there was a way to oc and perform like a 5870

these were benchmarks tested on a regular clocked card im sure later in the year or some point there will be modified cards available if people already havnt done it themselves

i currently know of one card clocked supposedly 50 % tweak or voltage tweak they called it and thats the asus 6870 im not sure how 13mhz will impact the strength of the card but im sure the clock can go way above 13 mhz which i oc'ed the hd5770 100mhz over so i would probally end up going with this card by the time the price drops i will probally be on my way to building a new rig again

 

[sygnus21]

well defently not just that i was thanking him for information which seems to be the focal point here....

I didn't mean for it to sound that way. And his post wasn't off target.

What I should have said was depending on the game, the card will either be close or clearly outmatched. And looking at Rage's review, the card barely keeps up with a 5850

And remember in the other thread I said I was thinking about getting one based on the price

Considering the price I'm still debating on whether to get one or not. It's still an upgrade over my 4890, and who knows when the better cards will be released, what the availability will be, and of course pricing??? So.....

http://www.sevenforums.com/graphic-...eries-gpus-official-thread-4.html#post1035628

It's all good

 

[Solarstarshines]

yea i understand I kinda leaning in differnt directions right now cause i originally wanted that card based i was going to sell the current 5770 but instead the guy that wanted said he didnt want to pay for a card that has been used a while which i can understand so ...

Now im thinking should i save a few hundred and then drop enough to grab a 5870 cause i was even looking at the gtx480fermi but that would just be reckless
so if i did get that card i would be saving alot and that would be my xmas gift cause my wife and daughter is getting the rest hahaha

 

[Alsisgevat]

Wow,i was cinda left out of this toppic for a while.Haha,thanx 4 the advice i am gonna spend a bit more and get the 5870,its setled,i wanted the 480 but i red it uses allot more power and has a heat of 96c. Does any one know the idle and full run temps of the 5870?

 

[Solarstarshines]

maybe this will help you out this is what my gpu runs like but i also got like 5 fans in and around the system too but i have seen most with close to the same temp structure


and even though the fan speed is 70% i can knock it back down and it will remain 45 c sometimes drops to 41c

 

[Alsisgevat]

Cool,thanx man,but i see yours is the 5700 series,is that the idle temperature?Whats the highest yours ever gone and are you happy with it,how does it handle games, i wanna play in HD,and have every thing on highest they can be...can the card handle it?Oh and i have 11 fans in my case one who is 25cm,on my gtx 285 the highest temp i got was 76c,so i dont want it hotter than that.But mainly i want to play EVERY THING on the best and highest possible.

 

[sygnus21]

Wow,i was cinda left out of this toppic for a while.Haha,

Sorry about that. Sometimes we get a little side tracked

If you feel one of your threads is getting side tracked, gently nudge us in the right direction

As for your decision to go with a 5870, it is a good card and certainly powerful enough for today's games on those on the horizon.

To put things in perspective, my 4890 still performs beautifully, yeah it's not a DirectX 11 card, but I've yet to get any DX11 games. Currently playing Fallout New Vegas, just finished Dragon Age: Origins. No Issues.

As for idle and run temps, all I can say is my 4890 idles around 63ish, run temps around 90ish I guess.

Good luck on your choice, good card.