Avoid extras when installing free software

Andrew what exactly is the problem you see in the SAS EULA?

We've been using it here for years and never had a complaint. It needs to have its trial version declined if not purchased and deselected from startup, is all I've seen.
 
Another thing you can do is after unchecking the things you don't want and down load the program you wanted. Check your computer for the things you unchecked. Sometimes you will still get them even though you unchecked them. Two that come to mind that installed after I indicated I didn't want them are Babylon and the Ask Tool bar.
Their also seam to be a lot more PUP than their use to be.
 

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^ You think ask is bad, don't even get me started on Babylon. I've waded through crap trying to fix a "slow" computer with that evil software on it.
 

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Andrew what exactly is the problem you see in the SAS EULA?

We've been using it here for years and never had a complaint. It needs to have its trial version declined if not purchased and deselected from startup, is all I've seen.

Ok. I take back what I said. I will own up. My mistake. I actually noticed
that wot was flagged in mistake. My major concern was what I read in the privacy policy. I misread it.

Anyways, disregard.

This is the worst software when it comes to crapware. Read the article here:

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/2310/be-careful-not-to-install-junk-software-with-digsby/
 
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Your awesome for reading this.
The latest IZArc (4.1.8) installer attempts to install multiple programs.

I updated AVG in one of my VMs yesterday and it has a tricky toolbar installer screen (I foolishly didn't screenshot it).
It has checkboxes and "Decline", "Back" and Next" buttons.
 

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ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
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Samsung S23B350
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WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
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Cooler Master
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Pale Moon (64 bit)
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2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
Bloatware. What's amazing is that they were riding high 10 years ago as the best free AV, then bloated up and didn't even seem to notice as they lost all favor. They've never been regarded here as anything but bloatware during the whole Win7 era. You'd think they'd have noticed by now and slimmed down a bit.

Meanwhile Avast added the web crapware and gadget that seem designed to drive off users who don't want to be bothered, in the face of MSE which doesn't bother you ever again after a 30 second install. If I were Avast I would have dropped the annual registration but they seem to be going the other direction, in the storied tradition of AVG...:sick:

I don't mind declining the trial on MBAM during install because I know that its paid service is what I'd recommend for the chronically infected. None of my Typhoid Mary's and Harry's have ever gotten infected again after buying MBAM Real Time protection, and some of them seem to look for ways to get infected. I had one call me to ask how to turn off MBAM because it wouldn't let him download an infected player he wanted anyway. Some people can't even do porn right. :huh:
 
Meanwhile Avast added the web crapware and gadget that seem designed to drive off users.....

I don't see how thats crapware. Its easily turned off or uninstalled unlike avgs toolbar. Doesn't slow me down ether. Also if you choose custom install you can avoid it.

I like avast webrep, its just like wot (which I also have).

I do agree though they are getting a little pushy with ads, which you didn't mention but I will. But not to an extent that is frustrating.

Again, my opinion.
 

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Motherboard Built in
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1TB Sandisk SSD PLUS (Main drive)
500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM (Games)
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CORSAIR TX Series TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
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CORSAIR CARBIDE SPEC-02 Mid-Tower Gaming Case, Red LED Fan
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220mm, two 120mm, and four 60mm fans
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Wired Dell keyboard
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Wireless Logitech mouse
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250mb down, 30mb up
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Panda Cloud Antivirus
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Chrome-ish x64
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Your awesome for reading this.
Greg how about the people turn off their security programs because it stops there torrent download and then post they don't know how they got infected. It must be because this or that security program has failed.
 

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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
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Das 4 Professional
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Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
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100 mbits
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Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
Greg how about the people turn off their security programs because it stops there torrent download and then post they don't know how they got infected. It must be because this or that security program has failed.

Wow. There real winners right there.

Thats hilarious!
 

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ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM D
Graphics Card(s)
2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
Sound Card
Motherboard Built in
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Acer R240HY bidx 23.8-Inch IPS HDMI DVI VGA (1920 x 1080) Wi
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
1TB Sandisk SSD PLUS (Main drive)
500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM (Games)
500 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM (Virtual Machines)
PSU
CORSAIR TX Series TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
Case
CORSAIR CARBIDE SPEC-02 Mid-Tower Gaming Case, Red LED Fan
Cooling
220mm, two 120mm, and four 60mm fans
Keyboard
Wired Dell keyboard
Mouse
Wireless Logitech mouse
Internet Speed
250mb down, 30mb up
Antivirus
Panda Cloud Antivirus
Browser
Chrome-ish x64
Other Info
Your awesome for reading this.
Bloatware. What's amazing is that they were riding high 10 years ago as the best free AV, then bloated up and didn't even seem to notice as they lost all favor. They've never been regarded here as anything but bloatware during the whole Win7 era. You'd think they'd have noticed by now and slimmed down a bit.

I never had any problems with AVG, except for a couple of months during 2009(?).
I had an issue eerily similar to the one posted on this thread: http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/306608-random-20-second-freezes-2.html

There was a significant delay when I:

  • Clicked on the Start Menu button
  • Tried to start a program
The wretched pop-down ad annoyed me though.

The latest version has a non-resizable window (I hate non-resizable windows). :mad:

If I were Avast I would have dropped the annual registration ...

Agreed.
I can't see the point of that yearly registration drivel (I had to re-register last month).

Additional
I just did some updates on one of my backup VMs and I was able to get a screenshot of the AVG Toolbar screen.
AVG 2014 Update.png
 
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AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
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DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
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