Solved Black screen on start-up. Delete and re-run explorer.exe only way in?

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As above. The PC has decided to go to a black screen just after the welcome logo comes up. I can hear the system load up ok - and when I hit ctrl-alt-delete, I can start task manager. From there, if I delete the explorer.exe file, then go to new task and reload it, all works fine.

I ran scr /scannow and it came back all was fine. I have run Super Anti-Spyware, Malabytes and CC Cleaner, all to no avail. I have gone back as far as I can with system restore points and the problem persists. I have run system repair both from the installation and from the original disk. I have set up a different user profile (another online solution) and this one takes me to a blue screen (from which I cannot access task manager) rather than the black screen, so no joy there - unless you like blue more than black.

I have googled the problem, which is surprisingly common, but has a smorgasbord of differing solutions, none of which appears to apply here.

I did install a new graphics card about two months ago, but it was all working fine (Gigabyte 560Ti). I have since removed the card and am just running the inbuilt graphics (Gigabyte Z68X), as this ws identified on one thread as a cause. I am considering a clean install as a last resort, but I have also read threads where the problem has continued afterward.

Any suggestions on where to from here?

Win7 Home premium, i2500k, 4bg ram.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitIntel i5 2500k4GB Dual DDR3On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
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DIY
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
Memory
4GB Dual DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Sound Card
On board
Monitor(s) Displays
22" Fujitsu
Hard Drives
C: 200GB
E: 2TB Seagate
+ external drives
PSU
450w
Case
Antec 300
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Did you install any theme(like a glass) or explorer addon/toolbar that replaces any system files?
 

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Windows 7 32 bitAMD 5200+ dual core2 GBNVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Media Center
OS
Windows 7 32 bit
CPU
AMD 5200+ dual core
Memory
2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Monitor(s) Displays
CRT
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
Keyboard
PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Other Info
SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card.
Installed an animated clock screensaver (numbers fell slowly into water - kinda cool) a few months back that never worked properly, so I uninstalled it. Working fine since, until this happened. Not sure if it replaced any system files but would assume System Repair would have picked up on that.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitIntel i5 2500k4GB Dual DDR3On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DIY
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
Memory
4GB Dual DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Sound Card
On board
Monitor(s) Displays
22" Fujitsu
Hard Drives
C: 200GB
E: 2TB Seagate
+ external drives
PSU
450w
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Standard
What about av shields? Do you have any av that starts with Windows? If so, try disabling all.
 

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Windows 7 32 bitAMD 5200+ dual core2 GBNVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
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HP Media Center
OS
Windows 7 32 bit
CPU
AMD 5200+ dual core
Memory
2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Monitor(s) Displays
CRT
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
Keyboard
PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Other Info
SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card.
Only Microsoft Defender which has been in place for over a year. Will try it out though.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitIntel i5 2500k4GB Dual DDR3On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DIY
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
Memory
4GB Dual DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Sound Card
On board
Monitor(s) Displays
22" Fujitsu
Hard Drives
C: 200GB
E: 2TB Seagate
+ external drives
PSU
450w
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Standard

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Windows 10 ProAMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Ve...G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-P...2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
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Windows 10 Pro
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AMD Ryzen 5 2400G Processor with Radeon RX Vega 11 Graphics
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ASRock X470 Master SLI/AC AM4 AMD Promontory X470 SATA 6Gb/s
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G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM D
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2047MB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB (EVGA)
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Motherboard Built in
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Acer R240HY bidx 23.8-Inch IPS HDMI DVI VGA (1920 x 1080) Wi
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1920 x 1080
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1TB Sandisk SSD PLUS (Main drive)
500 GB Seagate 7200 RPM (Games)
500 GB Western Digital 7200 RPM (Virtual Machines)
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CORSAIR TX Series TX650M 650W 80+ Gold Modular Power Supply
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CORSAIR CARBIDE SPEC-02 Mid-Tower Gaming Case, Red LED Fan
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220mm, two 120mm, and four 60mm fans
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Wired Dell keyboard
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Wireless Logitech mouse
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250mb down, 30mb up
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Panda Cloud Antivirus
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Chrome-ish x64
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Your awesome for reading this.
I have run sfc / scannow (mistyped it in the original post). All files verified as good.

Will try the clean start-up.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitIntel i5 2500k4GB Dual DDR3On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DIY
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
Memory
4GB Dual DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Sound Card
On board
Monitor(s) Displays
22" Fujitsu
Hard Drives
C: 200GB
E: 2TB Seagate
+ external drives
PSU
450w
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Standard
Another thing you can do with msconfig is turn on boot logging. If the system won't boot you may have to boot a WinPE type environment to read the boot log after the failed boot. It will be in the Windows folder ntbtlog.txt.
 

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Windows 7 32 bitAMD 5200+ dual core2 GBNVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
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HP Media Center
OS
Windows 7 32 bit
CPU
AMD 5200+ dual core
Memory
2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Monitor(s) Displays
CRT
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
Keyboard
PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Other Info
SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card.
ok. Back again (work has been flat out so I havve left the machine running - and have got used to booting, going to task manager, delete explorer.exe and then run explorer.exe as a new task).

When I first go into explorer.exe, it has only partially loaded (11.616kbs to be exact). Once deleted and re-run, it loads completely and all is good.

I ran ntbtlog. Here is the report - I can see that some drivers are not loading but have no idea what it points to...

Service Pack 1 2 1 2014 09:20:29.125
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\ntoskrnl.exe
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\hal.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\kdcom.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\PSHED.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\CLFS.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\CI.dll
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\Wdf01000.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WDFLDR.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ACPI.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WMILIB.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\msisadrv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\pci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\vdrvroot.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\partmgr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\volmgr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\volmgrx.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\pciide.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\PCIIDEX.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mountmgr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\iaStor.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\atapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ataport.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\msahci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\amdxata.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\fltmgr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\fileinfo.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\MpFilter.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\PxHlpa64.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Ntfs.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\msrpc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ksecdd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\cng.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\pcw.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Fs_Rec.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ndis.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\NETIO.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ksecpkg.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\tcpip.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\fwpkclnt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\volsnap.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\spldr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\sbp2port.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\rdyboost.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\mup.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\hwpolicy.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\fvevol.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\disk.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\CLASSPNP.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\cdrom.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\cdrbsdrv.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Null.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Beep.SYS
Did not load driver \??\C:\Windows\SysWow64\drivers\SBREdrv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\RDPCDD.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\rdpencdd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\rdprefmp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Msfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Npfs.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tdx.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\netbt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\afd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wfplwf.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\pacer.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\vwififlt.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\netbios.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serial.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wanarp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\uim_vimx64.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\Uim_IMx64.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\uimx64.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\termdd.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SASKUTIL64.SYS
Loaded driver \??\C:\Program Files\SUPERAntiSpyware\SASDIFSV64.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rdbss.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\nsiproxy.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mssmbios.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ElbyCDIO.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\discache.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\dfsc.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\blbdrive.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\AppleCharger.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\tunnel.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\intelppm.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\dxgkrnl.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\igdkmd64.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\HECIx64.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\usbehci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\HDAudBus.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\1394ohci.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\EtronXHCI.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\Rt64win7.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\serenum.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\ULCDRHlp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\GEARAspiWDM.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\wmiacpi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\CompositeBus.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\bbcap.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ComproHID64.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\AgileVpn.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rasl2tp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndistapi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndiswan.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspppoe.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\raspptp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rassstp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouclass.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\VClone.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\swenum.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\umbus.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\vga.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbhub.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\EtronHub3.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\kbdhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\NDProxy.SYS
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\SysWow64\Drivers\ULCDRHlp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\RTKVHD64.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\ksthunk.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\IntcDAud.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbccgp.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\usbprint.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\usbscan.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\USBSTOR.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\hidusb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\LHidFilt.Sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\LMouFilt.Sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\monitor.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\luafv.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\MpFilter.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\lltdio.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\nwifi.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\ndisuio.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\rspndr.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\HTTP.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\bowser.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\mpsdrv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb10.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mrxsmb20.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\fastfat.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\NisDrvWFP.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\peauth.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\secdrv.SYS
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srvnet.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\drivers\tcpipreg.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv2.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Did not load driver \SystemRoot\System32\DRIVERS\srv.sys
Loaded driver \??\C:\Windows\gdrv.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\WudfPf.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\WUDFRd.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\asyncmac.sys

Any ideas?
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitIntel i5 2500k4GB Dual DDR3On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DIY
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
Memory
4GB Dual DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Sound Card
On board
Monitor(s) Displays
22" Fujitsu
Hard Drives
C: 200GB
E: 2TB Seagate
+ external drives
PSU
450w
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Standard
And resolved! Went on to suggestion regarding trial and error via a clean start-up. Went into msconfig and 'Selective Start-Up' was already checked. Checked 'Normal Start-up', restarted and it booted perfectly.

How 'Selective Start-Up' came to be checked is a mystery. I did not even know this existed and I am the only one using this PC. Whats more, System Restore did not resolve the issue and I went back over a month. The clue I guess was that while the PC was booting with a blank screen, it was booting much quicker than usual.

So another potential solution - I haven't seen this as an option in my searches online so far - check that Selective Start-Up has been checked or not.

Thanks to all who provided the suggestions to resolve this issue. Greatly appreciated.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitIntel i5 2500k4GB Dual DDR3On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
DIY
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
Intel i5 2500k
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z68X-UD3H-B3
Memory
4GB Dual DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
On board (HD Graphics 200 GT2)
Sound Card
On board
Monitor(s) Displays
22" Fujitsu
Hard Drives
C: 200GB
E: 2TB Seagate
+ external drives
PSU
450w
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Standard
Glad you got it working. :)
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 32 bitAMD 5200+ dual core2 GBNVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Media Center
OS
Windows 7 32 bit
CPU
AMD 5200+ dual core
Memory
2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Monitor(s) Displays
CRT
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
Keyboard
PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Other Info
SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card.
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