Solved Cloned install boot issues

One reason you might want to consider de-tweaking (moving toward defaults) is the "confused" statement (in red by me) below:

I am still seeing 2 issues, both I think related to the lettering and cloning.

1 - is the resource monitor under the disk tab shows weird drive lettering for running apps. posting pic on this post. it sayd D:0 instead of C:.

2 - is that apps in the windows firewall which have allow rules based on the app location are been blocked, this I think is related to #1 that the raw drive letter is incorrect even if appears as C: in explorer.
Take a look at your resource monitor screenshot! Do you see D, H, R are on disk 0!! But R is fake on disk 0??

Is windows on R?? Please disable ramdisk... at least temporary.... and test again


No thats windows getting confused.

R is a ramdisk, it is not on a physical drive. That same issue occured when I had the ramdisk before the clone.

I have turned it off to test and it had no affect on this issue.
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
here is my apology to gregrocker, having a 2nd think about it, even if I disagreed I should have simply tried his suggestion and said if it worked or not, so I am sorry for lack of respect given to you.

On the swap I agree, the benefit may not be significant enough to be worth bothering with especially with how much ram I got, I am now back to one swapfile. It was something I originally set when the machine had less ram and a slower boot disk.

On something like my laptop which has a slow 5400rpm drive tho I think it would be noticeable if low on ram, however on that I just upgraded the ram to stop it swapping excessively.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
windows 8.1 Pro x64
CPU
intel i5 4670k @ 4.3ghz
Motherboard
asus z87-plus
Memory
16 gig ram ddr3 @ 1600 corsair vengeance
Graphics Card(s)
evga 970 GTX 4 GIG FTW ACX 2.0
Sound Card
asus xonar D2X
Monitor(s) Displays
benq gw2765ht
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 pro SSD 512gig - boot device wooosh
WD black cavalier 640gig WD6401AALS
Seagate 500gig ST3500630AS
WD 2TB Green WDC20EARS
2 x WD Red 3TB WD30EFRX
Samsung 750gig HD753LG - on asmedia controller
PSU
coolermaster silent pro 600watt modular
Case
fractal define R4
Cooling
artic freezer i30, 3 case fans
Keyboard
microsoft business ps2 keyboard
Mouse
microsoft optical black mouse
Internet Speed
80/20 FTTC SkyBB
Antivirus
Nod32 AV v8, HitmanProAlert, SRP, System Hardening
Browser
Chrome x64
Other Info
Intel controller is in AHCI mode currently using IaSTOR 12.8.0.1016 drivers
One reason you might want to consider de-tweaking (moving toward defaults) is the "confused" statement (in red by me) below:

Take a look at your resource monitor screenshot! Do you see D, H, R are on disk 0!! But R is fake on disk 0??

Is windows on R?? Please disable ramdisk... at least temporary.... and test again


No thats windows getting confused.

R is a ramdisk, it is not on a physical drive. That same issue occured when I had the ramdisk before the clone.

I have turned it off to test and it had no affect on this issue.

as is for now I did disable ramdisk and non default swapfile, what I havent done is unplugged all other hdd's, however I have noticed the hdd on the jmicron controller (which incidenntly is on its own with an easy to access cable) is the drive showing first in things like hdtune and crystal diskmark info, the ssd is shown 2nd. So unplugging that would probably bump the ssd up and I will try it later today, but I dont think it would be permanent when plugging back in but I will try and see. Its all the other hdd's on the intel controller in my bottom hdd bay that are a pain to access.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
windows 8.1 Pro x64
CPU
intel i5 4670k @ 4.3ghz
Motherboard
asus z87-plus
Memory
16 gig ram ddr3 @ 1600 corsair vengeance
Graphics Card(s)
evga 970 GTX 4 GIG FTW ACX 2.0
Sound Card
asus xonar D2X
Monitor(s) Displays
benq gw2765ht
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 pro SSD 512gig - boot device wooosh
WD black cavalier 640gig WD6401AALS
Seagate 500gig ST3500630AS
WD 2TB Green WDC20EARS
2 x WD Red 3TB WD30EFRX
Samsung 750gig HD753LG - on asmedia controller
PSU
coolermaster silent pro 600watt modular
Case
fractal define R4
Cooling
artic freezer i30, 3 case fans
Keyboard
microsoft business ps2 keyboard
Mouse
microsoft optical black mouse
Internet Speed
80/20 FTTC SkyBB
Antivirus
Nod32 AV v8, HitmanProAlert, SRP, System Hardening
Browser
Chrome x64
Other Info
Intel controller is in AHCI mode currently using IaSTOR 12.8.0.1016 drivers
Just so others know for information purposes I recently did 2 more clones.

One on my main rig from my samsung 830 ssd to new samsung 850 pro ssd, and another on my windows 10 test rig from a crappy slow 5400rpm hdd to the samsung 830 ssd.

In both cases it was flawless, none of the previous issues.

This time I used Macrium Reflect free (plan to buy it tho). I made a WinPE USB boot stick from it and did the clone using that media rather than within windows, it was far simpler than norton ghost and worked without any issues whatsoever.

In addition this time I followed the recommendation that on first boot after clone all other hdd's were unplugged to ensure no drive letter issues. In the fractal r4 design case unlike my old case thankfully this was easy to do.

Also this worked for windows 10 as well even tho I was using WinPE 3.1 not 5.0.

The only annoyance of the process was having to manually find the right usb2 drivers to copy to the boot media, as the free version doesnt automatically handle it.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
windows 8.1 Pro x64
CPU
intel i5 4670k @ 4.3ghz
Motherboard
asus z87-plus
Memory
16 gig ram ddr3 @ 1600 corsair vengeance
Graphics Card(s)
evga 970 GTX 4 GIG FTW ACX 2.0
Sound Card
asus xonar D2X
Monitor(s) Displays
benq gw2765ht
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 pro SSD 512gig - boot device wooosh
WD black cavalier 640gig WD6401AALS
Seagate 500gig ST3500630AS
WD 2TB Green WDC20EARS
2 x WD Red 3TB WD30EFRX
Samsung 750gig HD753LG - on asmedia controller
PSU
coolermaster silent pro 600watt modular
Case
fractal define R4
Cooling
artic freezer i30, 3 case fans
Keyboard
microsoft business ps2 keyboard
Mouse
microsoft optical black mouse
Internet Speed
80/20 FTTC SkyBB
Antivirus
Nod32 AV v8, HitmanProAlert, SRP, System Hardening
Browser
Chrome x64
Other Info
Intel controller is in AHCI mode currently using IaSTOR 12.8.0.1016 drivers
The only annoyance of the process was having to manually find the right usb2 drivers to copy to the boot media, as the free version doesnt automatically handle it.

usb2 ports are working out of the box! For usb3.0 you have (sometimes) install drivers.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ACER ASPIRE 5742G
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
Acer Aspire 5742G
Memory
4,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
WDC WD5000BEVT-22ZAT0
for me usb2 wasnt working, my keyboard wasnt even working (usb keyboard). I only had mouse which is PS2 and internal drives, the target ssd of the clone was connected via usb to sata cable for conveniance.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
windows 8.1 Pro x64
CPU
intel i5 4670k @ 4.3ghz
Motherboard
asus z87-plus
Memory
16 gig ram ddr3 @ 1600 corsair vengeance
Graphics Card(s)
evga 970 GTX 4 GIG FTW ACX 2.0
Sound Card
asus xonar D2X
Monitor(s) Displays
benq gw2765ht
Screen Resolution
2560x1440
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 pro SSD 512gig - boot device wooosh
WD black cavalier 640gig WD6401AALS
Seagate 500gig ST3500630AS
WD 2TB Green WDC20EARS
2 x WD Red 3TB WD30EFRX
Samsung 750gig HD753LG - on asmedia controller
PSU
coolermaster silent pro 600watt modular
Case
fractal define R4
Cooling
artic freezer i30, 3 case fans
Keyboard
microsoft business ps2 keyboard
Mouse
microsoft optical black mouse
Internet Speed
80/20 FTTC SkyBB
Antivirus
Nod32 AV v8, HitmanProAlert, SRP, System Hardening
Browser
Chrome x64
Other Info
Intel controller is in AHCI mode currently using IaSTOR 12.8.0.1016 drivers
for me usb2 wasnt working, my keyboard wasnt even working (usb keyboard). I only had mouse which is PS2 and internal drives, the target ssd of the clone was connected via usb to sata cable for conveniance.
100% it is a usb2 port? usb2 is kind of a standard..... no special drivers needed.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ACER ASPIRE 5742G
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
Acer Aspire 5742G
Memory
4,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
WDC WD5000BEVT-22ZAT0
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