Solved file convert .ts to another

[Wicca]

i have a .ts file that is 350 mb in size i want to convert it to another file with the exact same quality i do not mind what extension whatever is the best

 

[dsperber]

i have a .ts file that is 350 mb in size i want to convert it to another file with the exact same quality i do not mind what extension whatever is the best

VideoReDo TV Suite v4.

.TS files are transport streams from HDTV, and utilize MPEG-2 compression inside.

You can, for example, re-package the .TS file into MPG form with 100% retention of original digital content, i.e. the underlying MPEG-2 datastream.

So use VideoRedo to (1) open the .TS video, and (2) select the entire video or edit it if you want to remove commercials, etc., (3) add the one or more "scenes" you mark, and then (4) SAVE AS... and choose MPG format. All the scene(s) you added will be combined into one output MPG file with MPEG-2 in the underlying data, with ZERO re-compression.

 

[jumanji]

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[kado897]

Another easy-to-use versatile video converter you may try is Freemake Video Coverter. Freemake Downloads | Download Free Video Converter | Download Free Video Downloader

I concur. This will convert .ts into almost any format you like and it is fast.

 

[Wicca]

but quality to stay the same

 

[dsperber]

but quality to stay the same

I repeat... VideoRedo TV Suite WILL do ZERO re-compression on the conversion from TS to MPG.

These are both simply "wrapper" formats, with the underlying internal data compressed with MPEG-2 in both formats.

VideoReDo will do NOTHING to the underlying MPEG-2 data. It simply "re-wraps" the MPEG-2 inner contents of the TS file with a new external MPG wrapper.

In fact, the progress dialog during the conversion will show "fast frame copy", confirming that ZERO RE-COMPRESSION is occurring during the re-wrap process.

Try it. Download and install it for trial. It's a very highly regarded product. You'll like it (ask questions if you can't understand something about how to use it... either here, or on their Forum, which is answered by the author).

 

[Snowdog]

i have a .ts file that is 350 mb in size i want to convert it to another file with the exact same quality i do not mind what extension whatever is the best

Certainly you care about what the extension is? If not, why not keep it in .ts.

I assume you must want to play on some non PC device, in which case you likely have specific format requirements beyond not .ts.

 

[Wishmaster]

You just want to change the container?

MKVmerge can do this. just add the .ts file as the Video stream, and again for the Audio stream. It will de-mux the raw video and audio and put it into a MKV container.
No recoding, so no quality loss.

Another option is MP4 if its 4GB or less. MP4box will work the exact same way as MKVmerge.
You'll need MP4box, and if you want UI, YAMB is pretty good.


Buit as Snowdog mentioned, depending what you are wanting to do there may be additional requirements.
Some of which may be not only the the Video or Audio Codec inside the container, but the settings used for the Video/Audio streams themselves. (For example must be 4ref frames or lower. If the current file has 6 for example, it will not work regardless what container its in)

 

[dsperber]

but quality to stay the same

You've checked this thread as "resolved".

What program did you end up using in the end?

And into what converted output file format did you create from the input TS file?

Also, to what program or device is this converted file intended to be fed?

(Just curious, for closure)

 

[jumanji]

but quality to stay the same

You've checked this thread as "resolved".

What program did you end up using in the end?

And into what converted output file format did you create from the input TS file?

Also, to what program or device is this converted file intended to be fed?

(Just curious, for closure)

I am also curious to know what the OP has done.

You just want to change the container?

MKVmerge can do this. just add the .ts file as the Video stream, and again for the Audio stream. It will de-mux the raw video and audio and put it into a MKV container.
No recoding, so no quality loss.

Another option is MP4 if its 4GB or less. MP4box will work the exact same way as MKVmerge.
You'll need MP4box, and if you want UI, YAMB is pretty good.


Buit as Snowdog mentioned, depending what you are wanting to do there may be additional requirements.
Some of which may be not only the the Video or Audio Codec inside the container, but the settings used for the Video/Audio streams themselves. (For example must be 4ref frames or lower. If the current file has 6 for example, it will not work regardless what container its in)

I was also thinking on the same line - putting the contents of the .ts file into an mkv container without any encoding but didn't know which prog could do it.

After reading your post and just to tryout, I downloaded a 435MB sample .ts file of a open movie project (70 Mbps,1920*1080@24fps MPEG2; 384Kbps 48KHz 16bits 2 channel AC3). When trying to add the .ts file to mkvmerge GUI v4.9.1, I only get a message that .ts is not a supported format. So what next?

Using Freemake Video converter however I could make a good quality BD M2TS file by clicking on "to bluray" conversion button and also good quality mkv file.

M2TS file:maximum possible video bitrate for the AVC 39 Mbps Audio bitrate 224 Kbps AC3 File size: 238MB

MKV file:maximum possible video bitrate for the AVC 32Mbps Audio bitrate 224Kbps AC3 File size: 187MB

 

[dsperber]

After reading your post and just to tryout, I downloaded a 435MB sample .ts file of a open movie project (70 Mbps,1920*1080@24fps MPEG2; 384Kbps 48KHz 16bits 2 channel AC3). When trying to add the .ts file to mkvmerge GUI v4.9.1, I only get a message that .ts is not a supported format. So what next?

Using Freemake Video converter however I could make a good quality BD M2TS file by clicking on "to bluray" conversion button and also good quality mkv file.

M2TS file:maximum possible video bitrate for the AVC 39 Mbps Audio bitrate 224 Kbps AC3 File size: 238MB

MKV file:maximum possible video bitrate for the AVC 32Mbps Audio bitrate 224Kbps AC3 File size: 187MB

He had stated "exact same video quality" on output, meaning no re-compression. Still don't know yet why TS was unacceptable but something else (e.g. MPG) would have been, but that was his criteria. Size wasn't the issue, apparently... but ZERO RE-COMPRESSION was.

If I were wanting to save a copy-freely HD clip for posterity, say to BluRay, I too would not want to touch the underlying MPEG-2 datastream with any re-compression at all, and my authoring method would specify no re-size or re-compression.

===>> VideoRedo, and "fast frame copy" from TS to MPG.

 

[jumanji]

I know that video Redo is definitely a well acclaimed program. It is essentially geared towards editing a .ts file where one wants to chop of any commercials and other unwanted elements in a TV recording. As you have rightly said that step can be skipped where the .ts file is clean. That is also agreed. But that which turns me away and puts me off is that it is only a 15day trial one can use and thereafter one is required to buy. A freeware solution may be more readily acceptable to all. That is one reason why I didn't even want to try.

When one considers, putting it into an mkv container seems to be one solution since mkv can take almost all video formats and audio formats in its belly. One example is MakeMKV which takes all the contents of a bluray disk and puts it into a MKV container without altering the video or audio in anyway.. So it should be possible to put the contents of the .ts file too without recoding or recompressing its contents. And it will be ideal if one can do it with a freeware program.

 

[dsperber]

I know that video Redo is definitely a well acclaimed program. It is essentially geared towards editing a .ts file where one wants to chop of any commercials and other unwanted elements in a TV recording.

This is precisely why I bought it several years ago.

I also paid the for upgrade to TV Suite v4, which supports WTV. Since I use Windows Media Center and a cablecard-enabled Ceton 4-tuner card in my HTPC, along with an ATI TV Wonder 650 PCI OTA/ATSC 1-tuner card, I produce WTV files for recordings out of WMC (which is really my home's DVR system).

Thus I needed an editing program primarily that could read the new Win7 WMC WTV format native for copy-freely programs I wanted to save clips from, and the new VideoReDo can do that. I didn't want to first convert WTV to DVR-MS, and then edit DVR-MS. I had previously used VideoReDo's earlier version when I was using BeyondTV (and just the OTA/ATSC ATI tuner card) which produced MPG recordings and learned to appreciate VideoReDo's ability to read essentially anything.

I don't mind paying for software when it's outstanding, and there's justification. I support software authors and vendors who actively develop and enhance their products.

That's not to say I don't also use many many freeware products when they adequately meet my need. It's just that just because it's not free is not a reason for me not to consider it.

But I do hear what you're saying, and if MakeMKV can read TS then that would certainly be another acceptable alternative product to use for his conversion.

 

[jumanji]

I am not saying that one should shun all paid software.( I have a long list of licenced software in my kitty. But no Video editing ) If OP's requirement is the same as yours by all means he should get a Video editing software.

Back on track, I think I missed one important step which was implied by Wishmaster - that the .ts file should be demuxed first and then should be added to MKVmerge GUI i.e., the video stream and audio stream and then remuxed.

I shall leave it at it. Continuing my search for an easy way to TS2MKV, I came across this little bit of info. on the net - that gdsmux.exe in the Haali Matroska splitter can be used. It is only four clicks when you have everything ready.

1. Installed Haali Matroska Splitter, taking care during installation that it keeps away from anything other than ts files.( I do not know whether gdsmux.exe can be installed seperately.)

2. Ran gdsmux.exe from within the Program folder.

3. In the Output field gave a name to the mkv file, right clicked on the empty space under the input tab, added the .ts file and clicked on start. In about 15 seconds the mkv file was ready.



Media info of the TS file:



Media info of the MKV file



The MKV playing on Nero Kwik Media:



For reasons not known to me both the TS file and mkv file played properly only on Nero Kwik Media.

With WMP, Power DVD10 and MPC- Home cinema while the audio played the video was only black or some gibberish. Since it is so both for the TS and mkv , I can safely say they have the same attributes and character .

I now leave it to Wishmaster, dsperber and other experts to check on this and say whether this is OK.

It is my belief that once you put the unadulterated stuff into the mkv container, it can further be manipulated the way one wants it to be. The fact that the TS file and the mkv play true on Nero Kwik media makes me believe that the source and the derivative are OK.

 

[Wishmaster]

I am sorry. Yes, I should have said the .TS needs to be demuxed into raw streams first. Apologies.




As far as the .TS and MKV only playing in Nero..
Nero supports a very wide range of codecs and is quite flexible. Almost all files types in fact. So this really isn't surprising.

MKV will need splitters such as Haali to play in WMP.
However, .TS is supported in WMP.

The only reason I can think that it will not is that one of the RAW streams (Video or Audio) is not supported, not so much the container itself.
But your snips show a AC3 Audio Stream, and a MPEG Video stream .. Im at a loss TBH because those should play.



And I too agree. Free products are nice, and should not be overlooked.
But sometimes, a paid product is just worth the money without question. Just depends on your needs.

 

[jumanji]

.ts to .mkv the simple way

....The only reason I can think that it will not is that one of the RAW streams (Video or Audio) is not supported, not so much the container itself.
But your snips show a AC3 Audio Stream, and a MPEG Video stream .. Im at a loss TBH because those should play....

Thanks Wishmaster. I have to concur with your view. I feel that the MPEG2 Video stream in the .ts sample file I downloaded may not be 100% compliant with MPEG2 standards. That could be the reason why the .ts file and its derivative .mkv file which had the same MPEG2 video stream did not play in WMP,Power DVD 10 and MPC-Home Cinema. It is to the credit of Nero Kwik that it played both even with a deviant MPEG2 video stream.

As I had mentioned, for the trial I had downloaded the first segment .ts file from the Big Buck Bunny (Open Source Movie) - MPEG-2 HD Test Patterns . I now downloaded the first segment .ts file from another Open Source Movie Elephants Dream from the same website and this .ts file played in all the players. Its derivative .mkv file made with the DSMux also played true in all the players.

The screenshots below:

Media info of the .ts file:



Media info of the .mkv file made with gdsmux.



So, the OP or anyone else wanting to transfer the contents of a .ts file to another container (mkv here) without any encoding and/or recompression without losing quality can use this gdsmux and in three or four clicks accomplish the task.

An added bonus is reduction in the file size. Please note that the original .ts file size is 313MiB whereas the mkv file with the same MPEG stream and Audio Stream is only 232MiB. This is so because mkv, as I understand is more efficient in its housekeeping with less overheads. This reduction in overheads results in a smaller file while keeping the stream parameters same.

Thanks Wishmaster. I owe it to you atleast in part to your active colloboration, views and comments.

EDIT: The TS 2 MKV transcoding ( format conversion) requires only three files the gdsmux.exe, mkunicode.dll and mkzlib.dll.



If one does not want to retain the full installation of Haali Matroska Splitter, he can copy these three files from the Haali Program Folder to any other folder, say TS2MKV transcoder and then uninstall the Haali Matroska Splitter.