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What on earth is a Cherryville ??
 

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Asrock Fatality K6 Z170 Socket 1151
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32GB G-Skill TridentZ 3200mhz 16-18-18-38 DDR4
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Sli Gigabyte Windforce GTX 980 G1
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AC97 Creative Rage Tactic 3D Headphones Bluetooth
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27" Asus ROG Swift PG278Q G-Sync 48" Vizio Smart HD TV
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2560x1440p 27"- 48" Currently Gaming at 2560x1440p Res 2K
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fezbombmatt I have read through thread several times.
Reading your first post again it seems like you have 8 gigs of ram and you want Windows 7 to use more ram than the 2 gigs it is using. Windows 7 will not use more ram than required to get the job done. If you want to use more ram you have to do things on your computer that demand more ram and then Windows 7 will grab the extra ram needed to get the job done.
I know its more complicated when you get into Suprfetch and Standby ram but the good folks here have already explained that subject.
The only advantage of having extra ram is if you start using your system in a fashion that wants to use more ram Windows will grab the extra ram needed so things work smoothly. It will grab no more than what is needed. When or if you run short of ram Windows will wright to the hard drive more often and that will slow things a bunch.
If Windows 7 could grab more ram than what is needed what would it do with it?
The only trick to ram usage with Windows 7 that really works is let Windows 7 take care of it all by itself. Windows 7 know how to take care of things like Superfetch, Standby ram ect.
The only magic is coded into Windows 7 by some very smart people.

This is my ram class 101.
 

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I couldnt settle for anything less than a Cherryville ;)

Thats if i do consider a SSD :)
How about more than a Cherryville?
Samsung 840 Pro
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I am a firm believer in letting Windows manage computer resources as it wishes. The more I learn of how it works the more I believe that this is true. Manual intervention is almost always harmful. Windows memory management is extremely complex. It has been the subject of extensive research, development and testing for many years. The goal is always to assign memory where it will do the most good for overall system performance. If you think that your situation is somehow unique, something that Windows designers never considered, then you are only fooling yourself.

You can disable the pagefile, create a RAMDisk, put the pagefile on the RAMDisk, disable this, change that setting. After you have done all of that, and more, you will almost certainly have a system that performs no better than it did before, and it may well be worse.

Adding more memory will improve performance. But there will always be a point of diminishing returns where adding more memory does little or nothing. I expect that for your workload 8 GB RAM is past that point. That being the case, nothing you can do with memory will significantly improve performance.

An SSD will likely do more than anything you could do with RAM.
 

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And sometimes human interaction helps. We can all say what our opinion of what is best, but the bottom line is you get more enjoyment when you control your system. I personally didn't build my computer just to use the keyboard and mouse, this is my toy and I will tweak and play with it.
 

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Thanks everyone, i would love an SSD i just have better things to spend money on currently thats why i was avoiding it for now.

What is IOPS?
I've been checking out Intel as they seem to have the highest quality and least fail rate or am i wrong?
 

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I don't want to open a new thread for this question :
Guys, please tell me, is there a difference between DDR3 1066 MHz vs 2100 MHz ?
My motherboard support 2100 /1333/ 1066/ 800 MHz
 

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I don't want to open a new thread for this question :
Guys, please tell me, is there a difference between DDR3 1066 MHz vs 2100 MHz ?
My motherboard support 2100 /1333/ 1066/ 800 MHz

This thread is about SSD's and RAM. Google search it
 

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windows 7 home premium 64bit
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AMD radeon HD 5670 1GB
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None
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Hp
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Corsair 500W
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I don't want to open a new thread for this question :
Guys, please tell me, is there a difference between DDR3 1066 MHz vs 2100 MHz ?
My motherboard support 2100 /1333/ 1066/ 800 MHz


Memory
 

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MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming
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8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
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MSI Gaming X GTX 1070
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Realtek High Definition
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Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
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DELL-1920 x 1080 HP-1280 x1024
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Crucial m4 256 SSD, WD 7200RPM 500GB WD 1TB
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Seasonic X650 GOLD
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I have just noticed something in the Resource Monitor that you told me to open, on my works PC which has just 4GB RAM.

I have just a total of 800MB free after waiting for boot to finish. However i have Hardware Reserved using 324MB.

And if i right click Computer select Properties and look at my RAM, it shows 4.00GB (3.68GB Usable).

All my other PC's i built have never said a usable amount. Is that something wrong?
 

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windows 7 home premium 64bit
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Amd phenom ii 560 3.30ghz
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Asus m4a785td-v evo
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Corsair TwinX 8GB (4x2)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD radeon HD 5670 1GB
Sound Card
None
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Hp
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WD Black Caviar 1TB 7200rpm
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Corsair 500W
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CM Enforcer
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Stock HS, 200mm Front fan + 120mm Exhaust
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Cyborg v7
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Laser Microsoft 6000
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Norton
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Chrome
Along side that, as my memory on this PC seems to go to 0 free sometimes. I assume that this will increase the amount of Page Filing too. While the PC feels quick still atm. Would i be recommended to install some extra RAM? Or wouldnt it matter.
 

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PC/Desktop
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windows 7 home premium 64bit
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Amd phenom ii 560 3.30ghz
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Asus m4a785td-v evo
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Corsair TwinX 8GB (4x2)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD radeon HD 5670 1GB
Sound Card
None
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Hp
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WD Black Caviar 1TB 7200rpm
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Corsair 500W
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CM Enforcer
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Stock HS, 200mm Front fan + 120mm Exhaust
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Cyborg v7
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Laser Microsoft 6000
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Norton
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Chrome
I have just noticed something in the Resource Monitor that you told me to open, on my works PC which has just 4GB RAM.

I have just a total of 800MB free after waiting for boot to finish. However i have Hardware Reserved using 324MB.

And if i right click Computer select Properties and look at my RAM, it shows 4.00GB (3.68GB Usable).

All my other PC's i built have never said a usable amount. Is that something wrong?
Read this long article...
Pushing the Limits of Windows: Physical Memory - Mark's Blog - Site Home - TechNet Blogs
...and you may learn more about what is occupying "Hardware Reserved" RAM than you ever wanted to know.
 

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Employer provided Dell Latitude
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i7
Memory
8GB
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Intel HD Graphics
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crappy SSD
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Employer mandated Symantec Endpoint Protection
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Pale Moon 64bit, IE11 64bit & Chrome 64bit
Please dont make me read that.....:sleepy:
 

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PC/Desktop
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windows 7 home premium 64bit
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Amd phenom ii 560 3.30ghz
Motherboard
Asus m4a785td-v evo
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Corsair TwinX 8GB (4x2)
Graphics Card(s)
AMD radeon HD 5670 1GB
Sound Card
None
Monitor(s) Displays
Hp
Hard Drives
WD Black Caviar 1TB 7200rpm
PSU
Corsair 500W
Case
CM Enforcer
Cooling
Stock HS, 200mm Front fan + 120mm Exhaust
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Cyborg v7
Mouse
Laser Microsoft 6000
Internet Speed
5mb/s
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Norton
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Chrome
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