Solved HD Replacement makes W7 not genuine - MS cannot fix

[tesnus4449]

For all:
Popups gone now (2 days +); "torchwood cure" works! Thanks so much torchwood.

Still cannot get Windows Update to work, however (see yesterday's post).

tesnus

 

[chezler]

Tesnus

No updates. Needs many, many.
Get it started then go away. Takes many hours. Go to sleep, check tomorrow.
Many, many, many updates.

 

[tesnus4449]

chezler

Are you telling me to just start Update Windows and let it run over night?

tesnus

 

[chezler]

tesnus
I've had to do that more than once.
On a new install, you need all the updates.
May not take over night, but get it started and go do something rather than sit there and watch it.
Could take many many minutes to many hours.

 

[chezler]

tesnus
A word of caution. Don't install optional updates unless you have a particular need for some.
One in particular, KB3133977. It deals with Secure Boot, and Windows 7 is not compatible Secure Boot. That is for Win 8 and 10.
On certain motherboards with UEFI BIOS and that update installed, and Secure Boot enabled; Windows 7 will not boot. It is seen as a non compliant operating system.
If you set up a dual-boot system with Win 7 and Either Win 8 or 10; Windows 8 and 10 sets Secure Boot to "ENABLED" during installation.
If you don't have that update, no problem. I have that set up right now, but I keep a close eye on the updates Windows wants to install.

Just saying.

Back to the installing; Think about how long Windows 7 has been out. YEARS of updates, all at once. Some of them are hundreds of megs in size. Be patient.

 

[tesnus4449]

chezler

That does not surprise me al all for a new install. Mine, however, is ancient with nearly seven years of update (through 7/20/16), about month before the HD failure. Take a look at post #19, about 2 days ago, highlighted in yellow. Also note the error noted in the diagnostic report just below that. As you you will read elsewhere in this thread, this is a restoration from Windows Image Backup. Your point about being selective is a good one. I actually had it done automatically in the middle of the night, not really witnessing it; just noticing the aftermath of rebooting.

Thanks much, for the info. I will try letting it search longer.

tesnus

 

[chezler]

tesnus
Sorry for the wasted space. Didn't catch that "Image" part the first go-round.
I did a Google search cause I remembered something about a windows updater update issue.
It led to a thread here on SevenForums from Dec 25 2015 started by "sherwoods12". Title: Windows update not working, hangs while "searching for updates" Lots of info there. Some did what I did, Let it run all night and it might fix itself.

 

[chezler]

Yee-Haw. going on 3:A.M. I'm going to bed.
Good luck.

 

[Brds7t7]

Hi tesnus,

Unfortunately, Windows 7's Update System needs a few fixes to get it working properly these days, especially on clean installs.

This should fix it, as it's worked on all my systems and VM's I'm running:

Download the April 2015 servicing stack update https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3020369

Also download the July 2016 update rollup https://support.microsoft.com/en-gb/kb/3172605

Disconnect your internet connection.

Open Windows Update, click 'Change settings' and change it to 'Never check for updates'. Click 'OK' and exit out of Control Panel.

Open the start menu and type services.msc in the search bar.

Scroll down to the Windows Update service -> right click -> select Properties. Change startup type to 'Manual' and then stop the service. Click 'OK'.

Reboot the PC.

Install the April 2015 servicing stack update (KB3020369) first.

Then install the July 2016 update rollup (KB3172605).

Reboot the PC again once installed.

Go back into Services and change Windows Update service back to 'Automatic (Delayed Start)' and then restart the service. Click 'OK' and exit out of Services.

Reconnect your internet.

Open Windows Update and select 'Check for updates but let me choose'. Click 'OK'.

Check for updates and it should pick them up within 5 - 10 minutes (depending on your connection).

 

[tesnus4449]

Reply to Brds7t7

Thank you for your reply and clear list of instructions.

I have downloaded the July 2016 update rollup fine [Windows6.1-KB3172605-x64.msu]. However, the attempt to download the April 2015 servicing stack update [3020369] fails with the mesage “We are sorry…” [https://www.microsoft.com/library/errorpages/smarterror.aspx]. However, looking at a listing available in the 2nd download, the following are listed as available and look ‘similar’.
Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 (KB976932)
Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1 helps keep your PCs and servers on the latest support level.
and
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB3102810)
Install this update to resolve issues in Windows.

Otherwise, I have carefully reviewed your instructions and, briefly, I understand the process to be:
● Disconnect from the internet and change update rule to: 'Never check for updates'
● Using services.msc, change Windows Update to Manual and Stop
 Reboot to establish the above
● Install the 2 Updates
1st KB3020369; then 2nd KB3172605 [Don’t have KB3020369 yet]
 Reboot to establish the updates
● Using services.msc, change Windows Update to Automatic (Delayed Start) and Restart; OK; Exit;
● Reconnect internet and change update rule back to: 'Check for updates but let me choose'.
As I see it, from this point, I should be able to check for updates as I normally would.

Once I can get the 1st update, KB3020369, I should be able to give it a go. I do need help on that though.

Thanks so much

tesnus

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I have all three needed updates on my Onedrive
https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsjD7o6P3KLKj2SkG8MEhiaxwiVZ

 

[Brds7t7]

Hi Tesnus,

That's correct. I would stick to the 2 updates I posted. Even some of the earlier update clients which used to work, don't seem to work any longer.

The only ones I've had 100% success with are the 2 posted.

I'm not sure why you're unable to download the servicing stack update though as I've just tried and it works fine.

Grab the files from ThrashZone's OneDrive and let us know how you get on.

 

[tesnus4449]

To thrashzone

I just received a email as follows indicating you as the source:

Hi,
I have all three needed updates on my Onedrive
https://1drv.ms/f/s!AsjD7o6P3KLKj2TjShn8-SumV1rr

I went to the link and it gives me "This item might not exist or is no longer available". I have never used Onedrive before so I am not sure where to go from here.

Thank you for for attention and offer. Please advise further.

tesnus

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I edited and updated the link it should work now
The other one must of expired :mad2:

 

[tesnus4449]

To ThrashZone and brds7t7

I just clicked the link from with the forum page and see a set of zip files. I have downloaded WinRAR zip-files and extracted the following:

AMD64-all-windows6.1-kb3020369-x64_5393066469758e619f21731fc31ff2d109595445.msu
AMD64-all-windows6.1-kb3172605-x64_26f4cc7831a0d76393445b7b0a1a3ed5cd5b4047.msu
AMD64-all-windows6.1-kb3125574-v4-x64_2dafb1d203c8964239af3048b5dd4b1264cd93b9.msu

The 1st two correspond to the download originally indicated in brds7t7 post; what is 'kb3125574'? Do I install the third update [...574] also?

Next, I have the file Windows6.1-KB3172605-x64.msu downloaded earlier from Microsoft. From the file size (29,941 KB) I am assuming that that these are identical files despite different names.

Finally, the "AMD64" in the file name? Does this refer to the CPU? Mine is an Intel i7.

I assume that I install these updates by executing (as *.msu) from the start menu.

Please advise. Thankyou very much,

tesnus

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
The other kb is really for clean installs it is the unofficial sp2 I have it there too

The other one kb3172605
I would use the one I posted on my Onedrive it is the original not the newer one reissued this month.

 

[Brds7t7]

KB3125574 is the April convenience rollup, think of it as an unofficial Service Pack 2.

I personally don't install it as I like to pick and choose what updates I install, but it's entirely up to you.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
With all the updates I show there are 350 updates
Trying to load that many updates many are likely to fail to install
kb3125574 makes it easier

But the order is a tad different
1st kb3020369-x64
2nd kb3125574-x64
3rd kb3172605-x64
windows update

 

[tesnus4449]

Thanks all

I am proceeding in this order (all three)
1st: kb3020369-x64
2nd: kb3125574-x64
3rd: kb3172605-x64
Let me know soon if this is wrong. I will advise on the outcome.

Thanks a million,

tesnus

 

[chezler]

Just checked my updates.
I do have KB3020369 installed in Aug.2016
I do not have KB3172605, nor do I have the update that it replaces. This update IS in my list of "Optional Updates" that I have not installed.
KB3161608 was replaced with KB3172605 due to some issues with updating services.
If you read the articles at MS (In the knowledge base for the links given by Brds7t7), you'll find these and other updates that relate to problems in the update process.
Full installation instructions on MS site.

NOTE: I only have KB3020369 installed, none of the others listed here or at MS. My updates work fine. It is set to only notify me when an update is available. I choose what to install. I have one waiting for me to look at as I type.