help with CPU and gaming

[Quadrider10]

Hi I have an Intel i5 560m clocked at 2.67 normal and 3.2 Turbo. My question is that when I play games it never hits 3.2 ghIt stops at 2.93ghz Turbo. I have my computer on high performance and all. Y won't hit go up to 3.2?maybe cause my graphics card is Max completely out?

 

[Quadrider10]

And is bottle necking the CPU? Also the temp of the CPU is 150° Max when I play. But only gets to like 60% us sage. Every now and then it might spike up but won't hold there. It holds at a constant 2.93

 

[Dsprague]

Chances are that your CPU may not need to max out its speed With the turbo boost that Intel has on most newer processors it adjusts as needed, if it isn't adjusting that simply means that it is not needed beyond what its current frequency is. Chances are as you stated that your GPU is taking the load off of the CPU leaving it free to do other work, which is sort of the point of a GPU

 

[Erick Aguilar]

You mean 150 Farenheit right? Not celcius?

 

[Dsprague]

I'm not sure if a processor would even function at that temperature if it was celcius

 

[Dwarf]

I would think so. Or at least I hope so, because at 150 Celsius you'd be left with a dead processor.

 

[Quadrider10]

150c i mean... y is that bad?

lmao yea 150F my gpu is not the best tho, and a lot of games have to be played in lowest settings. to play them. but even when graphics got heavy with explosions, and it started to lag like crazy, frequency dident change. on BFBC2, it was set at 2.93 and dident move at all. it shot up once, but that was all. im planning on upgrading my GPU, but i figured that since my computer dosent use the intel HD graphics or intregrated CPU graphics, it was all dependant on GPU, so the GPU was maxxing out 100% and because of that, it wouldent scale up the frequency? idk. i also tried to open chrome and load a webpage and play youtube vid, which always makes it spike to 3.2, and it dident even change with the game running. now i also read that its able to scale up to 3.2 with only 1 core on and like 3ghz with 2 cores on. is that true?

but whenever i play pretty much any game, GPU load maxes out, and frequency maxes out, and the page file starts to fill up a bit.

 

[Erick Aguilar]

150c i mean... y is that bad?

lmao yea 150F my gpu is not the best tho, and a lot of games have to be played in lowest settings. to play them. but even when graphics got heavy with explosions, and it started to lag like crazy, frequency dident change. on BFBC2, it was set at 2.93 and dident move at all. it shot up once, but that was all. im planning on upgrading my GPU, but i figured that since my computer dosent use the intel HD graphics or intregrated CPU graphics, it was all dependant on GPU, so the GPU was maxxing out 100% and because of that, it wouldent scale up the frequency? idk. i also tried to open chrome and load a webpage and play youtube vid, which always makes it spike to 3.2, and it dident even change with the game running. now i also read that its able to scale up to 3.2 with only 1 core on and like 3ghz with 2 cores on. is that true?

but whenever i play pretty much any game, GPU load maxes out, and frequency maxes out, and the page file starts to fill up a bit.

Yeah, that is a good sign.
If GPU load didn't max out or was lower than the CPU load you would have a bottleneck.

 

[Quadrider10]

150c i mean... y is that bad?

lmao yea 150F my gpu is not the best tho, and a lot of games have to be played in lowest settings. to play them. but even when graphics got heavy with explosions, and it started to lag like crazy, frequency dident change. on BFBC2, it was set at 2.93 and dident move at all. it shot up once, but that was all. im planning on upgrading my GPU, but i figured that since my computer dosent use the intel HD graphics or intregrated CPU graphics, it was all dependant on GPU, so the GPU was maxxing out 100% and because of that, it wouldent scale up the frequency? idk. i also tried to open chrome and load a webpage and play youtube vid, which always makes it spike to 3.2, and it dident even change with the game running. now i also read that its able to scale up to 3.2 with only 1 core on and like 3ghz with 2 cores on. is that true?

but whenever i play pretty much any game, GPU load maxes out, and frequency maxes out, and the page file starts to fill up a bit.

Yeah, that is a good sign.
If GPU load didn't max out or was lower than the CPU load you would have a bottleneck.

Well I do have a bottleneck and that is still the GPU. But I'm just saying. I'm upgrading the gpu so will that let the CPU use its full potential. Like I still find it weir that it dissent even clock up when I loaded chrome.

 

[Erick Aguilar]

150c i mean... y is that bad?

lmao yea 150F my gpu is not the best tho, and a lot of games have to be played in lowest settings. to play them. but even when graphics got heavy with explosions, and it started to lag like crazy, frequency dident change. on BFBC2, it was set at 2.93 and dident move at all. it shot up once, but that was all. im planning on upgrading my GPU, but i figured that since my computer dosent use the intel HD graphics or intregrated CPU graphics, it was all dependant on GPU, so the GPU was maxxing out 100% and because of that, it wouldent scale up the frequency? idk. i also tried to open chrome and load a webpage and play youtube vid, which always makes it spike to 3.2, and it dident even change with the game running. now i also read that its able to scale up to 3.2 with only 1 core on and like 3ghz with 2 cores on. is that true?

but whenever i play pretty much any game, GPU load maxes out, and frequency maxes out, and the page file starts to fill up a bit.

Yeah, that is a good sign.
If GPU load didn't max out or was lower than the CPU load you would have a bottleneck.

Well I do have a bottleneck and that is still the GPU. But I'm just saying. I'm upgrading the gpu so will that let the CPU use its full potential. Like I still find it weir that it dissent even clock up when I loaded chrome.

That's not a bottleneck cause by the GPU.
Turbo is engaged when one thread is being used 100% to increase performance in single threaded applications, while games do not utilize 4 core completely, they do not run on just one thread either.

 

[Quadrider10]

Yeah, that is a good sign.
If GPU load didn't max out or was lower than the CPU load you would have a bottleneck.

Well I do have a bottleneck and that is still the GPU. But I'm just saying. I'm upgrading the gpu so will that let the CPU use its full potential. Like I still find it weir that it dissent even clock up when I loaded chrome.

That's not a bottleneck cause by the GPU.
Turbo is engaged when one thread is being used 100% to increase performance in single threaded applications, while games do not utilize 4 core completely, they do not run on just one thread either.

its a dual core cpu....
so that means that while playing games, its only going to max at 2.93ghz?

also my gpu specs: ATI HD 540v 512mb 500/700mhz 80 streamline processors

 

[Erick Aguilar]

Well I do have a bottleneck and that is still the GPU. But I'm just saying. I'm upgrading the gpu so will that let the CPU use its full potential. Like I still find it weir that it dissent even clock up when I loaded chrome.

That's not a bottleneck cause by the GPU.
Turbo is engaged when one thread is being used 100% to increase performance in single threaded applications, while games do not utilize 4 core completely, they do not run on just one thread either.

its a dual core cpu....
so that means that while playing games, its only going to max at 2.93ghz?

also my gpu specs: ATI HD 540v 512mb 500/700mhz 80 streamline processors

Ah sorry, must have not been paying attention, I should stop posting late at night.
But then again, someone already mentioned that since the GPU is being maxed then it is taking load off the CPU, and the CPU might seem it unnecessary to increase the frequency, have in mind that turbo boost is smart and depending on the CPU limitations it will calculate how high it can increment the frequency.

Perhaps if you tried an application that requires a lot more CPU power you could see how it behaves.

 

[Quadrider10]

That's not a bottleneck cause by the GPU.
Turbo is engaged when one thread is being used 100% to increase performance in single threaded applications, while games do not utilize 4 core completely, they do not run on just one thread either.

its a dual core cpu....
so that means that while playing games, its only going to max at 2.93ghz?

also my gpu specs: ATI HD 540v 512mb 500/700mhz 80 streamline processors

Ah sorry, must have not been paying attention, I should stop posting late at night.
But then again, someone already mentioned that since the GPU is being maxed then it is taking load off the CPU, and the CPU might seem it unnecessary to increase the frequency, have in mind that turbo boost is smart and depending on the CPU limitations it will calculate how high it can increment the frequency.

Perhaps if you tried an application that requires a lot more CPU power you could see how it behaves.

well thats the thing..... justc chrome when i refresh webpages or watch youtube, it spikes up. i was playing bfbc2, and had thew game windowed, then opened chorme and youtube, and it just stayed that 2.93 dident spike.

 

[Erick Aguilar]

its a dual core cpu....
so that means that while playing games, its only going to max at 2.93ghz?

also my gpu specs: ATI HD 540v 512mb 500/700mhz 80 streamline processors

Ah sorry, must have not been paying attention, I should stop posting late at night.
But then again, someone already mentioned that since the GPU is being maxed then it is taking load off the CPU, and the CPU might seem it unnecessary to increase the frequency, have in mind that turbo boost is smart and depending on the CPU limitations it will calculate how high it can increment the frequency.

Perhaps if you tried an application that requires a lot more CPU power you could see how it behaves.

well thats the thing..... justc chrome when i refresh webpages or watch youtube, it spikes up. i was playing bfbc2, and had thew game windowed, then opened chorme and youtube, and it just stayed that 2.93 dident spike.

Those applications are not demanding.
When I open firefox (which is more of a resource hog than chrome) and am navigating/watching videos/posting on forums. My CPU usage barely changes.
Then again, I have turbo boost disabled in favor of having all 4 cores of my CPU sit at 4.3GHZ all the time.

 

[Quadrider10]

Ah sorry, must have not been paying attention, I should stop posting late at night.
But then again, someone already mentioned that since the GPU is being maxed then it is taking load off the CPU, and the CPU might seem it unnecessary to increase the frequency, have in mind that turbo boost is smart and depending on the CPU limitations it will calculate how high it can increment the frequency.

Perhaps if you tried an application that requires a lot more CPU power you could see how it behaves.

well thats the thing..... justc chrome when i refresh webpages or watch youtube, it spikes up. i was playing bfbc2, and had thew game windowed, then opened chorme and youtube, and it just stayed that 2.93 dident spike.

Those applications are not demanding.
When I open firefox (which is more of a resource hog than chrome) and am navigating/watching videos/posting on forums. My CPU usage barely changes.
Then again, I have turbo boost disabled in favor of having all 4 cores of my CPU sit at 4.3GHZ all the time.

I'm just saying that it spikes.when the action is done. After that it just chills in the lowest freq.

 

[Erick Aguilar]

well thats the thing..... justc chrome when i refresh webpages or watch youtube, it spikes up. i was playing bfbc2, and had thew game windowed, then opened chorme and youtube, and it just stayed that 2.93 dident spike.

Those applications are not demanding.
When I open firefox (which is more of a resource hog than chrome) and am navigating/watching videos/posting on forums. My CPU usage barely changes.
Then again, I have turbo boost disabled in favor of having all 4 cores of my CPU sit at 4.3GHZ all the time.

I'm just saying that it spikes.when the action is done. After that it just chills in the lowest freq.

Normal behaviour.

 

[Quadrider10]

Those applications are not demanding.
When I open firefox (which is more of a resource hog than chrome) and am navigating/watching videos/posting on forums. My CPU usage barely changes.
Then again, I have turbo boost disabled in favor of having all 4 cores of my CPU sit at 4.3GHZ all the time.

I'm just saying that it spikes.when the action is done. After that it just chills in the lowest freq.

Normal behaviour.

yes. but it dosent do that when it should. like when bfbc2 is up, its locked in 2.93, wont spike to 3.2 any more. other games too. i mean i guess theres nothing wrong with it but still

 

[Erick Aguilar]

I'm just saying that it spikes.when the action is done. After that it just chills in the lowest freq.

Normal behaviour.

yes. but it dosent do that when it should. like when bfbc2 is up, its locked in 2.93, wont spike to 3.2 any more. other games too. i mean i guess theres nothing wrong with it but still

They are not CPU demanding games, they rely more on the.

100% CPU and GPU100% are not normal behaviour.

You need to understand that the system will only provide as much power as it thinks it needs, not as much power as you think it needs.