How the First Planets Formed

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You cannot reconcile between Pro Life and Pro choose both will only choose, "My Way or bombs and bullets".
Creationist and Evolutionist are similar both are fanatics with blind faith and both do not obey there gods. Just to be clear on that last statement, Math is suppose to be the god of Evolutionist but they pay no heed to the facts math give.

Interesting indeed...

i smell a hint of hostility. am i wrong?
i say that because of personal experience. a few years ago, on a forum far far away, someone fired up the "age old question". it quickly turned into a wildfire argument of titanic proportions that resulted in 20+ consecutive banns. some of them high ranked members. i personally didnt 'get the axe' nor did i instigate the breakout. i was merely an observer to the chaos. i'd rather not see anyone get booted for the same thing, here. i have grown rather fond of this forum, and hope that it will continue with it's colorful characters, not ripping each others throats out, trying to prove themselves right in such a way. it just to much of a touchy subject for anyone to maintain a sturdy rational state. i hope you can understand where im going with this (all of you). well then...

did anyone happen to catch that episodic series on the Discovery channel? *forgot name, googling* *cant find*. anyway, it was based on the theory that at one point, all of the mass in the universe was in one HUGE mass. that hit critical mass, blew up, and sent billions upon billions of particles through out space, which resulted in all the planets/ stars and such. it was a very intriguing story. i think it aired last summer. if i find it, i'll have to post it here. ;)
 

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Every Creationist I know does their best to obey God.

With all due respect,

I would (almost) conclude from your statement, you don't know that many creationists. :D

Being a creationist is about what one believes/preaches.
Obeying (a) God is what one practices.

I know more creationist who fail to practice what they preach, than ones who don't.

Practicing is the hard part of believing.

My comment is not directed at you personally, so please don't take it personal.

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Someone said puny earthlings.

i smile hopefully at the slowly emerging realisation amongst some of your kind.

it's not going to happen any time soon, but i wish people would stop acting as if they actually knew the deepest secrets of the universe.

all you earthlings have is ideas, theories and models on the one hand, and superstitions, myths and legends on the other - not one of you earthlings know how the planets were formed - those who have certainty without hard evidence are amongst the puniest.

maybe, but what do i know, coz i'm a puny earthling too :cry: (but at least i 'know' i am, and i'm trying real hard not to be!)
 

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Someone said puny earthlings.

i smile hopefully at the slowly emerging realisation amongst some of your kind.

it's not going to happen any time soon, but i wish people would stop acting as if they actually knew the deepest secrets of the universe.

all you earthlings have is ideas, theories and models on the one hand, and superstitions, myths and legends on the other - not one of you earthlings know how the planets were formed - those who have certainty without hard evidence are amongst the puniest.

maybe, but what do i know, coz i'm a puny earthling too :cry: (but at least i 'know' i am, and i'm trying real hard not to be!)

Wise words my friend:thumbsup::thumbsup: +rep
 

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In science there is a number, a very large number that represent impossibility.

It like a 1 in X chance that something will happen, the X represent the number 1 followed by a train load of zeros.


Anyone knows that number?
 

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in science there is a number, a very large number that represent impossibility.

It like a 1 in x chance that something will happen, the x represent the number 1 followed by a train load of zeros.


Anyone knows that number?


100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

If thats not enough, I can add some more...
 

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Would y'all please re-read what I said, obviously I can't speak for all as some are way off base, only a fool would deny that. Also, please don't rip one verse out of context to make a point, please read Romans 3:24. Actually the whole of chapter 3 needs to be read together to understand what's being said.

Romans 3:23 said:
23 for all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

I don't claim to know how the universe was created, to this puny earthling it just is! :)
 

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I have made my pennance. I am now Christian enough.

Don't worry

Somebody else already took the blame for everything. ;).
 

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I have made my pennance. I am now Christian enough.

Don't worry

Somebody else already took the blame for everything. ;).
Chuckle. Well, it seems that you are not Catholic.

Was baptized, did my communion, learned the Bible.
Learned enough to know it's not for me.

Faith itself is not the problem.
(mis)interpreting, twisting and turning it, so it fits personal agendas is.
 

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The point is this, leave god and all the other stuff out of the equation and deal with the facts. The term "Single Cell" makes an enormously complicated thing sound, well, easy. There are thousands upon thousands of tasks that have to occur in for a single cell organisim to come to be, the probility of each one of those thousands upon thousands of things to occur are far beyond that, , number. BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE! There is a specific order that they have to happen in and at times with specific timing. That increase that number. . a lot.

OH! Yea! There's more, let's get by all those layers upon layers of improbabilities and get right to the single cell organism, it'll just die. How do vast amount of immensely complex intelligence come into existence on a flook at the right place at the right time and properly administered? It's going to need intelligence just to survive but to divide and become two cell(sounded much simpler than it is)?

Which organ did those cell become first? a brain? Heart? Lung? In what kind of environment did they become organs, I can see a liver swimming around in a pool of primordial gunk like a gold fish and say to the kidneys, "Hay, lets get together tonight".

All the organs need each other simultaneously that is why they use the mothers organs till they are developed enough to continue on there own.
 

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You have a very strange understanding of abiogenesis and evolution.

I thought we were talking about planets? This thread sure has gone off on some tangents.
 

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