Is my backup iso all there?

scovil7

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(Pardon me if this has been answered elsewhere, I searched the forum for but didn't find an answer)
Did a fresh install of Windows 7 64-bit and all my apps, deleted Windows.old, defrag'ed and activated. Then created a SYSTEM IMAGE using Win 7 BACKUP and RESTORE, so far so good.
Win 7 and my apps take up 43.9 GB on the hard drive but the SYSTEM IMAGE it created on my external drive is only 23.7 GB. Tried it on my laptop with similar results ISO was about half the HDD. Does that sound right? Just seems the ISO should have matched the HDD GB-wise unless it compresses or something.
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64-bit
CPU
INTEL E8400
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P
Memory
8 GB CORSAIR DOMINATIOR
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4850
Sound Card
ON BOARD
Monitor(s) Displays
SAMSUNG 21"
Hard Drives
HITACHI 500 GB SATA
PSU
OCZ 500W
Case
LIAN LI

My Computer My Computer

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Is my backup all there?

(like a calf looking at a new gate - duh what's this?)

OK pagefile/hibernation are 14GB's, would those not be included in a backup ISO?

WinDirStat reads my C: as 37.5 GB less 14 GB is close to the 23.7 ISO.
(Looking at my HHD properties it lists used space as 43.9 GB.)
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64-bit
CPU
INTEL E8400
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P
Memory
8 GB CORSAIR DOMINATIOR
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4850
Sound Card
ON BOARD
Monitor(s) Displays
SAMSUNG 21"
Hard Drives
HITACHI 500 GB SATA
PSU
OCZ 500W
Case
LIAN LI
I backed up my laptop after a fresh install and it took less than one DVD - looked like about 2/3.

In Windows, the "Computer" reading is 11G. Hard to fit that on less than one 4G DVD :)

I suspect that the compression, coupled with not including the pagefile, hibernation file, etc. makes it that small.

My concern was the same as yours, so I did a recovery. Worked.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway, Toshiba Laptop, and Home Brew
OS
Windows 7 x64 HP, Windows 7 HP, Windows 7 Ult
CPU
Intel I3, Cerelon, Pentium 4 @ 3Ghz
Motherboard
Intel, Intel, Asus
Memory
8G, 3G, 3G
Graphics Card(s)
On-board Intel, On-board nVidia, nVIDIA card
Sound Card
on-board, on-board, SoundBlaster
Monitor(s) Displays
Hannspree HF237, Toshiba, SyncMaster 931B
Screen Resolution
default (all)
Hard Drives
1T internal, 320G internal, 160G internal, 1T networked
PSU
300w, unk, 650w
Case
black, black, grey
Cooling
air (all)
Keyboard
standard wired (all)
Mouse
standard wired (all)
Internet Speed
6M down, 768K up
Other Info
Home LAN through Linksys hub to 4 port and wireless switch/router. Networked HP 2600n. Wife's computer running Windows 7, and spare laptop running Ubuntu "Karmic Kola" (9.10).
Ya, right. Don't forget the compression.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
Curiosity go the better of me and I did a restore using the restore disk and ISO image on my USB HDD. It worked fine, only took about 12-15 minutes. I have 2 partitions on my 500 GB HDD and reading the on screen instructions during the restore it looked like it might delete the partition and reformat the whole drive but it didn't, partition 2 is alive and well.
 
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My Computer My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64-bit
CPU
INTEL E8400
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P
Memory
8 GB CORSAIR DOMINATIOR
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4850
Sound Card
ON BOARD
Monitor(s) Displays
SAMSUNG 21"
Hard Drives
HITACHI 500 GB SATA
PSU
OCZ 500W
Case
LIAN LI
Curiosity go the better of me and I did a restore using the restore disk and ISO image on my USB HDD. It worked fine, only took about 12-15 minutes. I have 2 partitions on my 500 GB HDD and reading the online instructions during the restore it looked like it might delete the partition and reformat the whole drive but it didn't, partition 2 is alive and well.

Yup - when they say "image" they MEAN image - I had to slick the HD and do a clean install to get rid of the "recovery" partition that Toshiba had put in.

Glad it worked for you. Makes changing the system feel a bit more comfortable, right? :)
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway, Toshiba Laptop, and Home Brew
OS
Windows 7 x64 HP, Windows 7 HP, Windows 7 Ult
CPU
Intel I3, Cerelon, Pentium 4 @ 3Ghz
Motherboard
Intel, Intel, Asus
Memory
8G, 3G, 3G
Graphics Card(s)
On-board Intel, On-board nVidia, nVIDIA card
Sound Card
on-board, on-board, SoundBlaster
Monitor(s) Displays
Hannspree HF237, Toshiba, SyncMaster 931B
Screen Resolution
default (all)
Hard Drives
1T internal, 320G internal, 160G internal, 1T networked
PSU
300w, unk, 650w
Case
black, black, grey
Cooling
air (all)
Keyboard
standard wired (all)
Mouse
standard wired (all)
Internet Speed
6M down, 768K up
Other Info
Home LAN through Linksys hub to 4 port and wireless switch/router. Networked HP 2600n. Wife's computer running Windows 7, and spare laptop running Ubuntu "Karmic Kola" (9.10).
Yes, it does or at least makes it faster!
 

My Computer My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64-bit
CPU
INTEL E8400
Motherboard
GIGABYTE GA-EP45-UD3P
Memory
8 GB CORSAIR DOMINATIOR
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4850
Sound Card
ON BOARD
Monitor(s) Displays
SAMSUNG 21"
Hard Drives
HITACHI 500 GB SATA
PSU
OCZ 500W
Case
LIAN LI
If you are carrying 8gb ram - your pagefile and hibernation file will be massive. They are excluded from the image.

Take that out and there is very little compression with Windows backup, sadly. Doesn't matter much if you are backing up a small amount.

Restore will be quicker from a flash drive - otherwise it is fairly slow.

Quicker than reinstalling the o/s , etc. Always worth making Images.

Other apps. are better than the Windows one - even some of the free ones.

Use whichever you are comfortable with.
 

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System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
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    various
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    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
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    cryorig m9i
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    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
After not checking, I learned the hard way that checking the image is "REQUIRED".

I created a system image on my external drive.
2 days later my hard drive died.
I booted with the recovery DVD and attempted to restore the image
NO GO! Everything was lost because the image was corrupted!
So, from now on I make and image and then reinstall it on my system to make sure that it works.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home built (x64), Lenovo x61s Tablet, Samsung Netbook
OS
Win7 x64 + x86
CPU
Intel i7 920, other Intel chips, and the Atom in the netbook
Motherboard
Asus P6T Deluxe
Memory
12 gB; 4 gB Lenovo; 1 gB Samsung netbook
Graphics Card(s)
ATI 4870
Sound Card
Yes, I have one of these
Monitor(s) Displays
32" Sharp Aquos TV
Screen Resolution
800x600 - I have vision issues
Hard Drives
4 - 150 gB Velociraptors in RAID 5
Promise controller
PSU
1000 watt (can't recall the brand)
Case
Antec 300
Cooling
Big honking cooler that was rated highly at Toms Hardware
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural
Mouse
Logitech Trackman
Internet Speed
Cable
Other Info
GeekSquad UPS
CyberPower UPS
DLink DNS-323 NAS (2 tB)
Netgear wireless router as an access point
Netgear wired router FSV-318
Home network consists of
4 desktop computers (2 Vista, 2 Win7)
1 netbook (Win7)
4 laptop computers (XP, 2-Vista, Win7)
Wii and XBox 360
After not checking, I learned the hard way that checking the image is "REQUIRED".

I created a system image on my external drive.
2 days later my hard drive died.
I booted with the recovery DVD and attempted to restore the image
NO GO! Everything was lost because the image was corrupted!
So, from now on I make and image and then reinstall it on my system to make sure that it works.

Excellent advice. Backups should always be checked before you need them. A number of big companies have found out the lesson you learned, much to their chagrin.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Gateway, Toshiba Laptop, and Home Brew
OS
Windows 7 x64 HP, Windows 7 HP, Windows 7 Ult
CPU
Intel I3, Cerelon, Pentium 4 @ 3Ghz
Motherboard
Intel, Intel, Asus
Memory
8G, 3G, 3G
Graphics Card(s)
On-board Intel, On-board nVidia, nVIDIA card
Sound Card
on-board, on-board, SoundBlaster
Monitor(s) Displays
Hannspree HF237, Toshiba, SyncMaster 931B
Screen Resolution
default (all)
Hard Drives
1T internal, 320G internal, 160G internal, 1T networked
PSU
300w, unk, 650w
Case
black, black, grey
Cooling
air (all)
Keyboard
standard wired (all)
Mouse
standard wired (all)
Internet Speed
6M down, 768K up
Other Info
Home LAN through Linksys hub to 4 port and wireless switch/router. Networked HP 2600n. Wife's computer running Windows 7, and spare laptop running Ubuntu "Karmic Kola" (9.10).
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