Long Boot Time after shutdown

[airahcaz]

Hi All,

I am experiencing 10 -15 minute boot times on Windows 7 only in the morning after a shutdown, throughout the day, I can shutdown and restart and my system is up in a matter of a few short minutes.

I hope the attached is something that can help...

 

[gregrocker]

It would be other listings in the Performance log around the time of Critical shutdown warning that will clue you to what is hanging the shutdown.

Run through these steps: Troubleshooting tips for Win7

If it still doesn't resolve then use the tool which the pro's use to trace these types of hangs: Trace Windows 7 boot/shutdown/hibernate/standby/resume issues - MSFN

 

[DustSailor]

Do you have a lot of programs set to do some kind of action in the night that starts the next time you turn on your computer? Could be a full scan virus protection that is set to every day, could be windows update, could be updating numerous programs all at once, including scanning and such. Could be your display settings are set too high and you could try bringing them down. Could be a virus. Could be too many programs that start up when windows starts. You only have 2 GB of RAM, Perhaps try upgrading and gain another Gb that matches your others. If you filled out even more of your system specs, we might be able to suggest more based off of what you have.

 

[airahcaz]

I have AVG with manual settings, and did full virus scan (thought automatic updates to MSE was the problem, and so replaced with AVG)

Also did full checkdisk

Disabled almost all Startup services, also set many to Delayed, including windows update (set to ask me to download / install)

It only happens in the morning after a (usually quick) shutdown at night, and only some mornings, so this implies that there is something that is scheduled correct? or could it be something else?

@gregrocker, btw, did you mean using the Performance Monitor? or specifically a Perf Log?

 

[DustSailor]

Oh, I wouldn't change startup services, In fact that may be why your computer is slowing down. I said startup programs, found in your startup folder or through msconfig. Many people like AVG, but in my experience it is a lot more heavy than mse (and in some people's opinion, but just opinion, not as good). I would guess it was some scheduled program, because likely microsoft's scheduled taskes don't take that long. Uninstall programs you don't need (only if you know what they are so you don't remove needed programs), and see if that helps any. In run, type msconfig, and under the general tab select selective startup (or diagnostic startup). Click okay and restart, see if this makes any difference and post back. It is a temporary diagnostic

 

[airahcaz]

Oh, I wouldn't change startup services, In fact that may be why your computer is slowing down. I said startup programs, found in your startup folder or through msconfig. Many people like AVG, but in my experience it is a lot more heavy than mse (and in some people's opinion, but just opinion, not as good). I would guess it was some scheduled program, because likely microsoft's scheduled taskes don't take that long. Uninstall programs you don't need (only if you know what they are so you don't remove needed programs), and see if that helps any. In run, type msconfig, and under the general tab select selective startup (or diagnostic startup). Click okay and restart, see if this makes any difference and post back. It is a temporary diagnostic

I can't tell if the AVG was the culprit for this 14 minute boot (is there a way?) ...but it was set to update and scan daily, and so I've turned that off for now.

 

[airahcaz]

Also, if it is slow right before displaying the windows logo and the black background, and during, what could be running as early as that stage?

 

[gregrocker]

I have AVG with manual settings, and did full virus scan (thought automatic updates to MSE was the problem, and so replaced with AVG)

Also did full checkdisk

Disabled almost all Startup services, also set many to Delayed, including windows update (set to ask me to download / install)

It only happens in the morning after a (usually quick) shutdown at night, and only some mornings, so this implies that there is something that is scheduled correct? or could it be something else?

@gregrocker, btw, did you mean using the Performance Monitor? or specifically a Perf Log?

AVG isn't recommended by anyone here. If MSE is problematic, I'd try Avast 5. Schedule a boot time scan after updating, then restart to get the deepest possible scan.

The performance log location is given in the troubleshooting link.

Disabling startup items should be done in msconfig, not Services.msc. I would not set Automatic services to Delayed start. Avast can be set to delayed start in its own Control Panel.

 

[airahcaz]

I have AVG with manual settings, and did full virus scan (thought automatic updates to MSE was the problem, and so replaced with AVG)

Also did full checkdisk

Disabled almost all Startup services, also set many to Delayed, including windows update (set to ask me to download / install)

It only happens in the morning after a (usually quick) shutdown at night, and only some mornings, so this implies that there is something that is scheduled correct? or could it be something else?

@gregrocker, btw, did you mean using the Performance Monitor? or specifically a Perf Log?

AVG isn't recommended by anyone here. If MSE is problematic, I'd try Avast 5. Schedule a boot time scan after updating, then restart to get the deepest possible scan.

The performance log location is given in the troubleshooting link.

Disabling startup items should be done in msconfig, not Services.msc. I would not set Automatic services to Delayed start. Avast can be set to delayed start in its own Control Panel.

curious, why not in Services.msc? Also, what is wrong with Delayed Start per se?

 

[gregrocker]

Because the user interface which works with least problems for turning off startup programs is msconfig>Startup. Services.msc is almost exclusively the province of System, and is already edited to the bone with Win7.

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1401-startup-programs-change.html

You may solve your problem by removing AVG and replacing it with Avast 5. If not, run Avast's boot scan for deepest scan.

 

[DustSailor]

Could your bios settings have been changed at all?

 

[airahcaz]

It is the oddest thing, I can shutdown at night with no problem. I start it up and it flies. But if I start up in morning, it takes 15 minutes.
I've already turned off indexing and have Search on a delayed Start.

I could wait till tomorrow morning and do a Safe Boot, but then what?

Now going to try System Restore, and if that doesn't work, I suppose I can get back close to factory with the backup dvd's I created?

 

[gregrocker]

I'd work backwards with System Restore, then if you need to recovery to factory condition run the Recovery Partition from Windows or boot after backing up your data.

The disks should be reserved for HD failure or if partition fails, since they replace the Recov partition itself too.

You can also consider a clean reinstall to get beyond the factory bloatware and useless utlities which have better versions built into Win7: http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/125874-re-install-windows-7-a.html#post1086729

 

[airahcaz]

I didn't change Bios, unless something changed it. And with this anomaly of it only happening in the morning, something must be scheduled, correct? Or is it doing a whole pagefile thing? Can I see all schedules for the system somewhere?

I should mention that I have a partition D drive that came that way

 

[gregrocker]

Type task scheduler in start search box, click Task Scheduler Library on left to see all tasks to reschedule or disable.

Did you run through the troubleshooting steps from my first post?

How is System Restore progressing?

 

[airahcaz]

Yes, system restore would get all the wat to the end, and then give a D:/... / rescache error.

I ended up doing a factory restore from Recovery Manager on the Compaq. Fine now

 

[baileyd1975]

I am having a similar issue. I have a Dell Vostro3700 with 6GB ram and a 500GB SATA 7200RPM hard-drive. I recently installed a WD My Book MODEL:WDBACW0010HBK back up hard drive. The startup has been taking about 10 times as long since I installed this. I also received a Problem: Video Hardware Error message with the problem files being:
WD-20110109-1350.dmp
sysdata.xml
WERInternalMetadata.xml

I did not open the "view a temporary copy of these files" when it asked if I would like to.

Does anyone know if this could all be caused from the external hard drive or could all of this be a coincidence?

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

[gregrocker]

I ended up doing a factory restore from Recovery Manager on the Compaq. Fine now

How to clean up factory bloatware

I am having a similar issue. I have a Dell Vostro3700 with 6GB ram and a 500GB SATA 7200RPM hard-drive. I recently installed a WD My Book MODEL:WDBACW0010HBK back up hard drive. The startup has been taking about 10 times as long since I installed this. I also received a Problem: Video Hardware Error message with the problem files being:
WD-20110109-1350.dmp
sysdata.xml
WERInternalMetadata.xml

I did not open the "view a temporary copy of these files" when it asked if I would like to.

Does anyone know if this could all be caused from the external hard drive or could all of this be a coincidence?

Does the startup problem exist if you disconnect the external? If not then move the data off, wipe and reformat using free Partition Wizard bootable CD: http://www.partitionwizard.com/download.html

If you had a bluescreen stop error then zip up the bugcheck file and post in Crashes and Debugging forum here for one of the real geniuses to solve: http://www.sevenforums.com/crashes-debugging/96879-blue-screen-death-bsod-posting-instructions.html

Win7 troubleshooting fundamentals

 

[baileyd1975]

I re-booted the machine with the external drive disconnected. It booted up normal. I am not extremely technically savy. I have free support with the Western Digital drive. Should I call them and have them walk me through what you are describing. Also I set the backup up through the control panel and the WD drive came with a backup software program. Should I maybe try to set it up through the provided software rather than the windows system?

Thanks for you help.

 

[gregrocker]

If you've confirmed that the external is slowing the bootup, then what I would do next is move any files you need saved off the external, then wipe it (to get any boot code off), create and format a new partition.

You can do all of this using free partition Wizard linked earler or use Diskpart to Clean All the external: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/52129-disk-clean-clean-all-diskpart-command.html then create and format using Disk Mgmt: http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2674-partition-volume-create-new.html

If you don't need the scheduled backup then I would manually drag your active User folders (Documents, Pictures, etc) to the external to back them up.