March 10th 2015 Windows Updates

[Lady Fitzgerald]

thats odd; I dont recall getting the updates for windows yesterday. Were they supposed to be for 10 or 7?

Win 7. I often don't actually get the notification until late on Wednesday.

 

[Anak]

thats odd; I dont recall getting the updates for windows yesterday. Were they supposed to be for 10 or 7?

Win 7. I often don't actually get the notification until late on Wednesday.

Same here, my daily check for updates occurres at mid-morning (usually 6 or 7am edt) so I did a forced check for updates about 10am yesterday, and they populated, but I've had occasions where I didn't notice the notification icon in the taskbar until Wednesday.

I understand that microsoft releases the updates around 10am Pacific time, and this may shed some light on the reason why some users recieve them at different times:

Bandwidth impact

Locally the Windows Update service uses the Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) to only use spare bandwidth left by other applications to download the updates.
Microsoft's download servers do not honor the TCP slow-start congestion control strategy.[17] As a result, other users of the Internet may be significantly slowed from machines actively retrieving updates. This can be particularly noticeable in environments where many machines individually retrieve updates over a shared, bandwidth-constrained link such as those found in many multi-PC homes and small to medium-sized businesses. Bandwidth demands of patching large numbers of computers can be reduced significantly by deploying Windows Server Update Services to distribute the updates locally.

Source: Patch Tuesday - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Borg 386]

For Borg:
I received the March msrt on the 7th so I'm not sure what's up.

Someone else reported getting an early update for that on Win 8 also.

I manually d/l it from the MS site & put it on the desktop in an easily accessible folder. That way it's not buried down in the system & I have easy access to it if I need it.

Another oddity, after d/l ing it, I run the quick scan with it, refresh the update list & it disappears from the d/l's. Not the case this time, it stayed on there even after I ran a scan. I scanned 2X with the tool & it didn't remove itself from the list.

Strange....

 

[DavidE]

For Borg:
I received the March msrt on the 7th so I'm not sure what's up.

Someone else reported getting an early update for that on Win 8 also.

I manually d/l it from the MS site & put it on the desktop in an easily accessible folder. That way it's not buried down in the system & I have easy access to it if I need it.

Another oddity, after d/l ing it, I run the quick scan with it, refresh the update list & it disappears from the d/l's. Not the case this time, it stayed on there even after I ran a scan. I scanned 2X with the tool & it didn't remove itself from the list.

Strange....

Did you try installing this update from Windows Update ?
Maybe it will disappear from available updates if you install it that way ?

I too got this update early and installed it on the 8th, it disappeared from my list after installing/running.
I thought it was odd to get the update early ...
I wonder if MS is changing when they publish this update going forward, or just something odd this month ?

 

[ThrashZone]

Yea I've never really ever looked for it and ran the scanner personally :/
I always thought it worked in the background after it was installed via the update system ?

 

[DavidE]

I hope they start distributing this monthly update before patch Tuesday.
I would not run a AV/AM scan while installing Windows updates.
Isn't that what basically happens when MSRT runs in the mix of Monthly updates ?
What happens if MSRT detects malware in the middle of installing "20" monthly updates ???

imho, it's better to scan for malware before (or after), and separate from installing numerous PT updates.
For me, it adds a lot of time to updating someone's PC using Teamviewer on some PC's ...

 

[Borg 386]

According to MS, it's supposed to d/l, run a quick scan & then install the other updates.

My reason for doing it the way I do go back to the XP days. I once needed to pull it up to run a scan, & when I finally dug it out, I noticed MS had not removed all the older versions of the tool. I had a folder full of older versions of MSRT files taking up a good amount of space.

It was then that I found if you manually d/l it, put it in a folder where you can get to it easily, run it & then refresh the list that it disappeared from the updates. I found it convenient since I could get to it easily & I didn't have to worry about a folder getting cluttered with older files & taking up space.

I don't know if that works the same way nowadays with 7 or 8, since I've been d/l ing the tool manually & running it manually for a long time now.

I just think it's curious that they delayed the release of a new version of that. Maybe MS has something in the works?

The Malicious software removal tool currently available for download is the February 2015 version. The March 2015 version will be available in the next couple of weeks.

 

[DavidE]

I just looked at Update History and this update changed from Important to Optional this month.

I manually install updates, and i see where it runs in the "middle" of all the updates being installed.
You can see that in my February updates ...
I don't know if it works different for folks using Auto Update ...
I install all updates auto checked by MS in "One update", I don't install them in groups such as "10 at a time" ...
Anyway, it will be interesting to see what happens with this update next month.

 

[maxseven]

I just looked at Update History and this update changed from Important to Optional this month.

Not here--it continued to be listed as Important. I "installed" it back on the 9th fwiw.

 

[ddrkitten]

Issues

I'm having issues with my laptop that I believe it to be linked to the March 10th update. After I updated my computer, it began freezing for no reason. I've even gone so far as to try to use system restore to 'undo' the update (usually worked in the past for crappy updates) but the restore takes hours and keeps failing. I don't know what to do since the moment I turn on my PC, I might have five minutes before everything stops. Any advice would help.

It might not be caused by the update, but that's one heck of a coincidence.

 

[Jesse Williams]

Was there a fix included for FREAK?
Did everyone else's machines reboot twice?

Yes, mine rebooted twice.

 

[Anak]

Hi ddrkitten, welcome to 7F!

It's probably related to this: MS Update 3033929 Causing Reboot Loop I realize yours is freezing and not looping the reboot, but that's what one of the earlier updates did. 3033920 is a rebuild of the Rescinded 2949927 from October.

You would find much better help in our: http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-updates-activation/ Forum.

Make sure you follow the: http://www.sevenforums.com/windows-...4840-windows-update-posting-instructions.html You can follow this link or click on the second one in the sticky section.


Related:
To give you some steps you can try, you should still start a new thread in the Windows Updates and Activation forum. In step #3 instead of repairing your machine you could try Last known good configuration.
How To Fix Windows 7 Update Reboot Loop Problems: Microsoft's KB3033929 Patch Causing Restart Issues

https://Update KB3033929 fails with error code 80004005 | social.technet.microsoft.com

From Jesse's post. I've seen this around the web about the double re-boot; I failed to mention in an earlier post that my machine only rebooted once.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Yea super freak is fixed I passed the test in the freak news story earlier,

Got yesterday twelve of them, all installed fine and rebooted twice.

Was there a fix included for FREAK?
Did everyone else's machines reboot twice?

Yes, mine rebooted twice.

Thanks for the confirmation.

 

[Ranger4]

Mine rebooted twice as well. But no problems experienced with this update at all.

I check for updates manually everyday as I use MSE & update it daily just after I start up each morning. Although I have install updates automatically set, I always check manually & install all updates as they become available. In years of doing this I have never had a problem with updates.

I don't pick & choose updates to install, I just install all of them & install them in the order that MS supplies them.

 

[Jesse Williams]

Mine rebooted twice as well. But no problems experienced with this update at all.

I check for updates manually everyday as I use MSE & update it daily just after I start up each morning. Although I have install updates automatically set, I always check manually & install all updates as they become available. In years of doing this I have never had a problem with updates.

I don't pick & choose updates to install, I just install all of them & install them in the order that MS supplies them.

I do the same!

 

[Seffrid]

I'm having issues with my laptop that I believe it to be linked to the March 10th update. After I updated my computer, it began freezing for no reason. I've even gone so far as to try to use system restore to 'undo' the update (usually worked in the past for crappy updates) but the restore takes hours and keeps failing. I don't know what to do since the moment I turn on my PC, I might have five minutes before everything stops. Any advice would help.

It might not be caused by the update, but that's one heck of a coincidence.

Uninstalling updates through Control Panel/Programs is usually a far more reliable way of rolling back to pre-updates than using system restore. You might want to give that a try.

 

[mjf]

I'm having issues with my laptop that I believe it to be linked to the March 10th update. After I updated my computer, it began freezing for no reason. I've even gone so far as to try to use system restore to 'undo' the update (usually worked in the past for crappy updates) but the restore takes hours and keeps failing. I don't know what to do since the moment I turn on my PC, I might have five minutes before everything stops. Any advice would help.

It might not be caused by the update, but that's one heck of a coincidence.

Uninstalling updates through Control Panel/Programs is usually a far more reliable way of rolling back to pre-updates than using system restore. You might want to give that a try.

Having a system image prior to updates is the best way of getting out of trouble. In my experience update trouble doesn't happen often but it can occasionally. I have all my PCs on "tell me about updates but don't download or install until I say so".

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

I'm having issues with my laptop that I believe it to be linked to the March 10th update. After I updated my computer, it began freezing for no reason. I've even gone so far as to try to use system restore to 'undo' the update (usually worked in the past for crappy updates) but the restore takes hours and keeps failing. I don't know what to do since the moment I turn on my PC, I might have five minutes before everything stops. Any advice would help.

It might not be caused by the update, but that's one heck of a coincidence.

Uninstalling updates through Control Panel/Programs is usually a far more reliable way of rolling back to pre-updates than using system restore. You might want to give that a try.

Having a system image prior to updates is the best way of getting out of trouble. In my experience update trouble doesn't happen often but it can occasionally. I have all my PCs on "tell me about updates but don't download or install until I say so".

System Restore was sometimes iffy with XP and I never was able to get the thing to work at all with Win 7 so I now just shut it off and use imaging (via Macrium Reflect)to go back to when the image was made. I have never had a verified image later fail on me and I've had only one image that failed verification (I have MR set to automatically verify an image after making it).

I also have my PCs set to "tell me about updates but don't download or install until I say so". One reason I always wait until Saturday morning to run M$ updates is on Friday I run full security scans on my computer (instead of the faster quick scans) and immediately after that, I make an image of my boot drive before running my data drive backups. That way, when I run the updates on Saturday morning, if something should go pear shaped, I can just restore my boot drive using the image from the evening before. When running the updates, I will run no more than a set of fifteen at a time, starting with the ones at the bottom of the list, rebooting between each set.

That said, I had a significantly stupidly serious Senior moment this morning. I have had a rough week with my asinine allergies, sinuses, TMJ (it's weird having a toothache where there are no teeth), and back so my head wasn't where it belonged (it's dark up there!) when I started to run the updates. After I double checked to make sure KB3033929 hadn't been pulled, I hit OK without first unchecking all but the bottom fifteen updates and KB3033929 and running all 26 updates at once. I started to interrupt the process but decided the heck with it and let it run while I laid down for a while to see what would happen since I could always restore from the image if things went south. It did the two reboots others have reported and everything has been working fine since then.

 

[Ranger4]

I had another 4 updates this morning, plus the usual MSE update & as you can see 2 of them were installed twice. No reboot & all went well.

 

[Seffrid]

I had another 4 updates this morning, plus the usual MSE update & as you can see 2 of them were installed twice. No reboot & all went well.

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With the exception of KB3032359 which is from this week's updates, the other Windows Updates (as opposed to the MSE one) were all from last month's list. Had you already installed them last month?