MSE 2 Final Released!

[Lemur]

cool

 

[computertech19]

Sweet, so far I like MSE V2. It's been good to me so far.

 

[Dinesh]

I never got it upgraded automatically. So I uninstalled the old version and installed the new version.

 

[Anak]

The upgrade (update is the term used for definitions and the engine, upgrade for the program verrsion) will require intervention.


MSE will *not* automatically upgrade from v1 to v2. When it checks for the version upgrade your status will turn to at risk ([FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]yellow[/FONT]/orange) and you will be advised to upgrade.

Yes, you will be notified when it is staged for you. It will not be available to everyone all at once, as is the normal pattern. Sit tight. If you *must* have the latest, then simply download the new version from the official page and install - it will remove v1 as part of the install.

From: MSE 2.0 Released? 12-17-2010.

Direct Download from Airbot's link: microsoft.com/downloads/en/MSE

Make sure you pick the one for your system......x64 is bigger than x86.

 

[sygnus21]

MSE will *not* automatically upgrade from v1 to v2. When it checks for the version upgrade your status will turn to at risk ([FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]yellow[/FONT]/orange) and you will be advised to upgrade.

Hmmm from my experience I've found inconsistancies with the software upgrade portion of MSE. Sometime the upgrade option worked, somethimes it didn't, in this case moving from 1.xxx to 2.xxx it didn't.

A lot of people make the mistake of clicking the "update" tab thinking that that will update the program when in fact all it does is update the virus definitions. Going to the "Help" tab and clicking "Check for software updates" actually updates the MSE program, though like I said, I've found it inconsistant.

Just wanted to point that out.

Now that this is final maybe subsequent updates will work more consistently.



Anyways FYI, I downloaded from the link Airbot provided and just did an over the top upgrade, no issue.

 

[xxxdannyxxx]

Hi all
I installed vers 2 yesterday and have noticed some strange going ons. Firstly i have a task created to check for updates at log on which i modified for this version as some files have moved. This runs fine and updates at log on but the tray icon doesnt display the updating icon like it used to,it just stays the same green tick. Also i have no pop up when a scheduled scan starts. Is this just me or has anyone else got the same thing

 

[Anak]

sygnus21

The only time MSEv1 upgraded for me was for the virus engine, at that time the program did turn orange.

Yes, the distinction has to be made between Upgrading and Updating, that why I put the first quote in there.

But as human nature has as always. Displays a lack of patience, and doesn't want to wait to be [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]spoon-fed[/FONT] by anybody let alone MS, luckily one can go and download it for themselves.

Thanks for your clarification.

Now that this is final maybe subsequent updates will work more consistently.

We can only hope, wait, and see.
In my research I've come across posts where there are enormous amounts of program UpGrades for MSE from users, but again we will have to wait to see what, if any MS will incorporate into MSE.

One item I'd like to see is a more comprehensive context menu when you click on the tray icon.

Instead of just "OPEN" it should have other options like the one you show in your attachment.

I submitted it to MSE development, and started the clock....

Anyways FYI, I downloaded from the link Airbot provided and just did an over the top upgrade, no issue.

That's what I did, and same here. No issues.

 

[Anak]

Hi all
I installed vers 2 yesterday and have noticed some strange going ons. Firstly i have a task created to check for updates at log on which i modified for this version as some files have moved. This runs fine and updates at log on but the tray icon doesnt display the updating icon like it used to,it just stays the same green tick. Also i have no pop up when a scheduled scan starts. Is this just me or has anyone else got the same thing

Hi dan,

I can't say I have noticed it, but I'll set up a test and report back.

I do know MS wants MSE to run as unobtrusively as possible. that maybe the reason for the lack of visual action.

MS is notorious for keeping a tight lip. Even the Beta Testers, and MODS on Social-Net were given no warning of the V2 release.
Their kinda of like.......Pis***

For now keep track of update versions, as long as they are newer, higher, I'd say your okay.

 

[xxxdannyxxx]

Hi Anak
Have been playing for the last few hours and its really odd. I changed the signature updates reg key to update every hour as a test and the icon did display the updating symbol on the last three occasions anyway. However the task i created to update on reboot reports as run both in task scheduler and the mse interface but no change in the system tray icon. The icon does also show the running scan picture but they seem to have done away with the pop up we used to get. Suppose like anything it may just take getting used too.
Look forward to your findings

Danny

 

[sygnus21]

sygnus21

The only time MSEv1 upgraded for me was for the virus engine, at that time the program did turn orange.

Yes, the distinction has to be made between Upgrading and Updating, that why I put the first quote in there.

But as human nature has as always. Displays a lack of patience, and doesn't want to wait to be [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]spoon-fed[/FONT] by anybody let alone MS, luckily one can go and download it for themselves.

Thanks for your clarification.

You point is well taken. Mines was to point out my experiences and the inconsistancies I've seen with upgrades. Millage may vary.

All good

One of the things I do hope they fixed is the long "Full" scan times, usually around 4 hours! I'll have to do a full scan when I'm finished with my projects to see. Will post results later.

Peace

 

[profdlp]

...One of the things I do hope they fixed is the long "Full" scan times, usually around 4 hours!...

Whoa! Mine usually takes about an hour. That's with an 80GB SSD and two 1TB drives, all about 60% full. :shock:

 

[noobvious]

sygnus21

The only time MSEv1 upgraded for me was for the virus engine, at that time the program did turn orange.

Yes, the distinction has to be made between Upgrading and Updating, that why I put the first quote in there.

But as human nature has as always. Displays a lack of patience, and doesn't want to wait to be [FONT=Verdana, sans-serif]spoon-fed[/FONT] by anybody let alone MS, luckily one can go and download it for themselves.

Thanks for your clarification.

You point is well taken. Mines was to point out my experiences and the inconsistancies I've seen with upgrades. Millage may vary.

All good

One of the things I do hope they fixed is the long "Full" scan times, usually around 4 hours! I'll have to do a full scan when I'm finished with my projects to see. Will post results later.

Peace

Holy crap! I think mine generally takes from 1 to 1.5 hours.

 

[fseal]

Full scan on my machine has always taken about 2 hours...

 

[sygnus21]

Thus far two systems with multiple drives avaraged that. My old system has 1 500GB, and 1 320 and it took about 3 hours for a full scan.

This system has a 1TB, 1 750, and 1 500 GB hard drives and thus far after 40+ minutes.....



I'm not the only one who complained about this in the past so.....

So I did a full scan. That took over eight hours. I don’t know exactly how long it took, I finally had to give up and leave it running. MSE doesn’t report how long it took to do a scan, it only reports what it found. (I suspect the total run was around ten or eleven hours. MSE reports that a full scan can take up to an hour.)

SecuriTeam Blogs » Microsoft Security Essentials review

This one too.... MSE full scan

In fact one of my very first posts here was about the long full scan times.... http://www.sevenforums.com/system-security/35027-microsoft-security-essentials-windows-7-a.html

Anyways I'll let it run and see where we end up before cancelling it.

Oh... yeah I see the possible infection I have - not worried about it at the moment becaue I'm sure I know what it is

 

[profdlp]

I wonder if the scan time is a factor of quantity of RAM and/or CPU power?

 

[sygnus21]

I wonder if the scan time is a factor of quantity of RAM and/or CPU power?

If that were the case my scan times would be flying by. See system spec

Any rate, even 1 gig of RAM shouldn't take that long!

 

[profdlp]

I wonder if the scan time is a factor of quantity of RAM and/or CPU power?

If that were the case my scan times would be flying by. See system spec

Any rate, even 1 gig of RAM shouldn't take that long!

Our systems are nearly identical... no idea what causes the difference.

 

[sygnus21]

Well I've got 10 partitions spanning 3 hard drives. My 1TB has drive has 3 partitions including the OS. My 750 has 3 partitions, and my 500 has 4 partitions.

5 partitions are above 50% full, including the OS, the other 5 are no less than 64% free space.

Anyways current progress.....



Time: 2:45:51 and counting....

 

[ignatzatsonic]

I just did a total scan---887,000 items in 90 minutes.

Total space occupied is 1.05 gigs across 3 partitions.

I was using the PC lightly the entire time.

Core 2 Duo 6600 with 4 gigs of RAM--a very ordinary PC by today's standards.

This is with the upgrade to version 2.

 

[profdlp]

Well I've got 10 partitions spanning 3 hard drives...

...Time: 2:45:51 and counting....

Maybe having more partitions has something to do with it. I have just one partition on each of the three drives.

Anyone else with slow scans have lots and lots of partitions?

Since we're on the subject, how many of you with slower scan speeds have lots of big files? Or are they mostly LOTS of smaller files? I have tons (20,000+) of mp3s. Perhaps file type has something to do with it.