Problem cloning XP to bigger drive prior to installing XP/7 dual boot

johngee

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In preparation for setting up a dual boot XP/7 system on my Lenovo laptop I'm using EaseUS Partition Master initially to clone the existing XP drive to a new larger one prior to creating a new partition (on the new drive) for Windows 7. The new drive is connected via a USB caddy for the copying operation.

However the initial copying progress is so unbelievably slow that I'm now very concerned that it's "stalled" - the progress bars aren't moving at all although there is evident disk activity at least on the new drive. Is this operation normally very slow?

It's now 22:30 here in the UK so I'm gong to bed, leaving the cloning to do it's stuff (I hope!). But what if it's still in the "no progress" state in the morning? I'm concerned that, because the source (C) drive was "locked" prior to starting the copy operation, I may not even be able to access that if I simply shut the PC down and disconnect the caddy.

I realise that this is really an XP issue but I hope someone can help here.

Perhaps with a little luck it will all be done by morning and it will just seem like a bad dream:geek:

Regards

John
 

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Just an update - some very slow progress is being made - just 2% in over two hours but at least something is happening. Live in hope!

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Good news - bad news.

When I came back to the PC the Windows desktop was back up and running, so the original drive is OK. But when I went into Disk Management the target drive (the one in the caddy) was showing a single unallocated partition, evidently the process didn't work. So what on earth was it doing all night?

What have I misunderstood? Is there a more reliable way of cloning drives than the one I've tried to use?

John
 

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My son (who has used the EaseUS utility successfully many times to do exactly what I am trying to do) also tried to perform this operation on my computer. It failed in exactly the same way for him too. He says that, normally, the copying progress is quite "visible" but in my case, it basically didn't even start - progress bars just don't move. He's as puzzled as me.
 

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Do it from bootable CD! Check source disk and destination disk for errors. And check if they are faulty.
 

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My son (who has used the EaseUS utility successfully many times to do exactly what I am trying to do) also tried to perform this operation on my computer. It failed in exactly the same way for him too. He says that, normally, the copying progress is quite "visible" but in my case, it basically didn't even start - progress bars just don't move. He's as puzzled as me.
So not knowing what the machine specs are John it is a bit hard to say how fast it will go. So say for instance if I were using my i5 in th e laptop @2.26Ghz I would expect the cloning to take longer than say my Ivy i5 @3.4GHz plus I would expect the RAM might play some part in it.

John
 

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Own build (new) Desk1 / Asus ROG Win 7 / Desk2 1st build
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Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
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Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
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Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
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Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
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Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
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Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
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Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
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Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
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ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
My son (who has used the EaseUS utility successfully many times to do exactly what I am trying to do) also tried to perform this operation on my computer. It failed in exactly the same way for him too. He says that, normally, the copying progress is quite "visible" but in my case, it basically didn't even start - progress bars just don't move. He's as puzzled as me.
So not knowing what the machine specs are John it is a bit hard to say how fast it will go. So say for instance if I were using my i5 in th e laptop @2.26Ghz I would expect the cloning to take longer than say my Ivy i5 @3.4GHz plus I would expect the RAM might play some part in it.

John
Disk I/O speed is most important that's the bottleneck.
 

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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601...Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz4,00 GBATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ACER ASPIRE 5742G
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 370 @ 2.40GHz
Motherboard
Acer Aspire 5742G
Memory
4,00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5400 Series
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
WDC WD5000BEVT-22ZAT0
My son (who has used the EaseUS utility successfully many times to do exactly what I am trying to do) also tried to perform this operation on my computer. It failed in exactly the same way for him too. He says that, normally, the copying progress is quite "visible" but in my case, it basically didn't even start - progress bars just don't move. He's as puzzled as me.
So not knowing what the machine specs are John it is a bit hard to say how fast it will go. So say for instance if I were using my i5 in th e laptop @2.26Ghz I would expect the cloning to take longer than say my Ivy i5 @3.4GHz plus I would expect the RAM might play some part in it.

John
Disk I/O speed is most important that's the bottleneck.
Hum K didn't think of that but now you have mentioned it I winder what the specs are for the machine are even more as in transfer speeds for the board and drives etc
 

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Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
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Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
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Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
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Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
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Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
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One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
Thanks all. My son took both drives away to clone on his computer. It turned out there were some unreadable (and unrepairable) sectors on the source drive. There had been no evident problems with the computer beforehand and Easeus does a chkdsk automatically before cloning that had found no errors. The source disk is a WD 320GB drive that's only a year old, so it's going back for a return (it itself was a clone of the original 80GB that the computer was supplied with). Fortunately I still have that 80GB drive (and a full backup of the 320GB drive). The 80GB drive is back on board as I speak - found some 66 updates! So I'll clone that - I've done a thorough check of that, including a surface scan, and it's 100% OK.

The computer is a Lenovo 3000N100 with Intel Core Duo processor. It's passed the Windows 7 upgrade advisor with no serious issues and will run 64-bit version. It's quite old though - what's best do you think: 32 or 64 bit?

Many thanks folks.

John
 

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64bit John no ifs or buts mate - then everything will work on it.

Think of 32bit as a pipe delivering the river Thames through it each second and the the 64bit the pipe delivering the whole of the Atlantic ocean through each second - no comparison.
 

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Desk1 7 Home Prem / Desk2 10 Pro / Main lap Asus ROG 10 Pro 2 laptop Toshiba 7 Pro Asus P2520 7 & 10
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Desk1 i5 3750K / Laptop i7 GTX 860M / Desk2 i5 2500
Motherboard
Desk1 Asus P877-V / Desk2 Gigabyte H67 UD3H / Laptop ?
Memory
Desk1 8GB (1866) / Desk2 16GB (1333) / Laptop 8Gb DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Desk 1& 2NVidia GTX 650 & Laptops on board Intel
Sound Card
Desk 1 & 2 -XONAR DG Realtek High Def audio Laptop
Monitor(s) Displays
Desk 1 Benq HD 2450 / Desk2 Philips 24" / Laptop 17.5"
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 D1 & D2 & Laptop 1
Hard Drives
Desk1 Samsung 120GB 830 SSD
Asus ROG 256GB 850 Pro SSD
Desk2 Samsung 840 256 SSD
Toshiba 120GB EVO
PSU
Desk 1 Corsair HX 1050/ Laptop ? / Desk 2 Corsair HX 650
Case
Desk 1 Cooler HAF XM ? Toshiba laptop / Desk2 Coolermaster
Cooling
Fans on all Desk1 -2 Desk2 - all Coolermasters 5 Laptop ?
Keyboard
Desk 1 MS Sidewinder X6 Desk 2 MS Sidewinder X 4
Mouse
Desk 1&2 - Gigabyte MS 900 gamer - laptop - Logitec wireless
Internet Speed
ADSL2+
Other Info
One other Desktop (tester) and spare Toshba laptop both with SSD's
Running Kaspersky 2016 ISS on all machines config'd identically
Logitec audio stereo systems on each machine (x3)
Canon MG5250MFC
Router/modem TP-Link running WPA2SK
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