Solved Problem with many/large HDDs

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Mounted in the case is 1 80MB and 1 300MB drive. SATA.
I have SATA power and datacables hanging out the back of the case.
I also have an (open) external USB 2 drive.
I have a number of data drives (with backup copies of each drive) which I usually plug into the USB box when I need them. These are 1TB and 2TB (partitioned into 1TB).

Usually, using the USB box is succesful. I get 28MB/s transfer speed writing to the drives. Although sometimes I can see the drive in "Safely remove hardware", the drive does not appear in Windows Explorer until I run Partition Wizard. I don't have to do anything, just run it and then exit.

However, plugging in a SATA drive (after powering down) firstly makes Windows take ages to boot.

Then when trying to transfer data it starts off fine and then grinds almost to a standstill, saying it will take 3 hours to transfer 4MB of data.

Needless to say, the same happens if the drive is mounted in the case. It was this problem that prompted me to make them "external" drives.

I can't see any difference in the problem if the drives are Samsung, Seagate or Western Digital.

The problem can occur using Windows Explorer and Microsoft SyncToy.

Sometimes problem does not occur.

I need to have 2 drives plugged in when making a copy as a backup.
 
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What do you mean by, "sata cables hanging out the back of the case? You're using them or not?

You may have bad data cables, a bad hard drive (or two) or you may be in PIO mode? To fix the latter: http://www.overclockers.com/make-pio-go/)/

How old are the drives?
 

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BTW the above link no longer works.

All drives in DMA mode.

The drives vary from 3 months to 3 days old.

I usually use the USB box when accessing my "external" drives because they can be mounted and dismounted without shutting down. But when I want to backup one of these drives, I plug the backup drive in to the SATA cables hanging out the back of the box. They hang out so I don't have to open the case each time.

Bad cables: I have 2 sets of SATA cables. I will mark them and deliberately alternate, to see if that makes a difference.
 

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NVIDIA GeForce GTX650 1GB
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On-board Realtek
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1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
Samsung HD321HJ, Samsung HD103SI, Seagate ST2000DL, Seagate ST3100524AS
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i5-2500k
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Asus P8P67 Pro
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8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH 1866MHz 8-9-8-24
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EVGA GTX 570 SC
Sound Card
X-Fi Titanium Fatality
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S27A550H 27" LED
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB.
1TB Samsung F3.
2TB Samsung F4.
PSU
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 760
Case
Lian Li Lancool K62
Cooling
Thermalright Venomous X Black/Scythe S-Flex/Shin-Etsu X23
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MS Natural Elite 4000 Ergonomic
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6MB/768
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Logitech Z-5500 505 watts.
D-Link DGL-4500.
Tripp-Lite Smart Pro 1500.
re Similar thread, I also boot and then switch on the USB external drive. If plugged into SATA port, I just live with the longer boot time.

All the drives have unique drive letters, I allocate drive letters when I set up the drives with Partition Wizard. Don't have enough to run out of drive letters yet.

The link to overclockers is workinh now, but all the drives are in DMA mode anyway.
 

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Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bitIntel i3-3220 3.3GHz4GBNVIDIA GeForce GTX650 1GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Built-up
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
CPU
Intel i3-3220 3.3GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX650 1GB
Sound Card
On-board Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
LGL1719S
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
Samsung HD321HJ, Samsung HD103SI, Seagate ST2000DL, Seagate ST3100524AS
PSU
450W
Case
AOpen
Cooling
Case fan, CPU fan, PSU fanf.
Keyboard
Microsoft
Mouse
AOpen
Internet Speed
1Mb/s
Antivirus
MSSE
Browser
Firefox
:) Maybe it's time to upgrade? I didn't want to say anything at first, but boy has it been a long time since I've even heard the term, "single core", let alone been fortunate enough to meet an actual owner of one! And you're running 1 big phat GB of RAM... it's like Christmas! :p

... just teasing you, no ill will meant.
 

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7 Ultimate x64i5-2500k8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH 1866...EVGA GTX 570 SC
OS
7 Ultimate x64
CPU
i5-2500k
Motherboard
Asus P8P67 Pro
Memory
8GB G.Skill Ripjaws X F3-12800CL7D-8GBXH 1866MHz 8-9-8-24
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 570 SC
Sound Card
X-Fi Titanium Fatality
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S27A550H 27" LED
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB.
1TB Samsung F3.
2TB Samsung F4.
PSU
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 760
Case
Lian Li Lancool K62
Cooling
Thermalright Venomous X Black/Scythe S-Flex/Shin-Etsu X23
Keyboard
MS Natural Elite 4000 Ergonomic
Mouse
Logitech G500
Internet Speed
6MB/768
Other Info
Logitech Z-5500 505 watts.
D-Link DGL-4500.
Tripp-Lite Smart Pro 1500.
Time to upgrade my profile!! Running 2.7GHz dual-core with 2GB RAM (and flashdrive ReadyBoost).

Update Eventually found out that the PSU just couldn't handle that many drives. Upgraded PSU and problem solved
 
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My Computer My Computer

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Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bitIntel i3-3220 3.3GHz4GBNVIDIA GeForce GTX650 1GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Built-up
OS
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit
CPU
Intel i3-3220 3.3GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte
Memory
4GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX650 1GB
Sound Card
On-board Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
LGL1719S
Screen Resolution
1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
Samsung HD321HJ, Samsung HD103SI, Seagate ST2000DL, Seagate ST3100524AS
PSU
450W
Case
AOpen
Cooling
Case fan, CPU fan, PSU fanf.
Keyboard
Microsoft
Mouse
AOpen
Internet Speed
1Mb/s
Antivirus
MSSE
Browser
Firefox
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