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Mr Anderson
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hey, I have 4gb of RAM, 3gb usable, in a 64-bit OS. Probably just another n00b question, but hey, thats what the forum is for. So, why am i missing a Gig?
 

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Acer Veriton m261 (modded)
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Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz
Motherboard
Whatever came with the system
Memory
4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU
Sound Card
Intergrated
Monitor(s) Displays
samsung SyncMaster 2494 24"
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
80gb - IDE
750gb - SATA II
PSU
whatever came with the system
Case
whatever came with the system
Cooling
whatever came with the system
Keyboard
Apple Aluminium (Awesome)
Mouse
Some awesome Dell mouse, really good.
Internet Speed
100mbps
hey, I have 4gb of RAM, 3gb usable, in a 64-bit OS. Probably just another n00b question, but hey, thats what the forum is for. So, why am i missing a Gig?
My guess is the highlighted portion of the snip......the other GB is being used by your graphics card.:)
 

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PC/Desktop
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Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
OS
Win 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 (desktop)
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS3R
Memory
2x 2GB OCZ DDR II SDRAM PC2-6400
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 9400GT
Monitor(s) Displays
HP 2009m(primary), Acer P191W
Screen Resolution
1600x900, 1440x900
Hard Drives
Internal:WD Caviar Black 640GB 32MB cache 7200RPM
External:Samsung Story Station 1TB HDD desktop drive
500GB Toshiba portable drive
PSU
Antec Earthwatts EA500D
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Antec Sonata III
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4 fans
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Logitech Wave
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Logitech M-SBF90
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Slow due to home Wireless-G router
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MSE, Hitman Pro, Malwarebytes
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Chrome and Palemoon
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Laptop....Acer 5750Z-4835
15.6" HD Widescreen CineCrystal™ LED-backlit LCD Display: (1366x768 resolution, 16:9 aspect ratio)
Intel® Pentium® Processor B940 (2.0GHz, 2MB L3 cache)
Windows® 7 Home Premium,500GB Hard Drive,4GB DDR3 RAM, Intel® HD Graphics,8X DVD-Super Multi Double-Layer Drive
Multi-in-1 Digital Media Card Reader,802.11b/g/n Wi-Fi
Chrome and Palemoon, MSE, Hitman Pro
I also have 4Gb installed, but Windows is only recognizing 3.44GB. Why is this?
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Dimension E521
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium - 32-bit Version
CPU
AMD Sempron 3400+ running at 1.8GHz
Motherboard
Dell Inc 0HK980 A01
Memory
4GB Total Physical DDR2 SDRAM; 3.44GB recognized by Windows
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce 6150
Sound Card
SigmaTEL
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell E176 Flat Panel
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
Western Digital 74.5GB (main system drive)
Seagate FreeAgent 1TB USB
PSU
I don't know...Dell, maybe?
Case
MiniTower
Cooling
Umm...a fan.
Keyboard
Dell Standard 104-key
Mouse
Kingston One-button USB
Internet Speed
1.5Mbits (maximum)
I also have 4Gb installed, but Windows is only recognizing 3.44GB. Why is this?

The standard response: desktop versions of 32 bit Windows (including 7) can address 4GB at most. However, some of these addresses are reserved for other purposes, so that a 32 bit system with 4GB of RAM will always show less than that available. The exact amount will depend on what hardware devices are present.

There are 32 bit server OSes that support PAE (physical address extension) that support more. They don't support 64 bit applications, though, so the limits on individual applications remain.
 

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homegrown
OS
Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7-3930k
Motherboard
Asus P9X79 Pro
Memory
16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133
Graphics Card(s)
eVGA GTX680
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium
Monitor(s) Displays
As PA246Q
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1200
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Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black
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PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire
Case
Silverstone FT02
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Noctua NH-D14
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cheap Logitech USB
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Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB
Internet Speed
6Mb cable
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Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers
I also have 4Gb installed, but Windows is only recognizing 3.44GB. Why is this?
Most likely because
1). you are running a 32-bit version of the operating system
2). you have an integrated video card which is sharing system RAM.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self-Built in July 2009
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS
Memory
8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570
Sound Card
Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio
Monitor(s) Displays
23" Acer x233H
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS
PSU
Corsair 620HX modular
Case
Antec P182
Cooling
stock
Keyboard
ABS M1 Mechanical
Mouse
Logitech G9 Laser Mouse
Internet Speed
15/2 cable modem
Other Info
Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset.
For a 32bit system it is a problem of address space. As was said, graphics (even if they have their own memory) and some other functions need address space which can range from 0.5 to 1.2GBs. Thus the adddress space available for the RAM that the OS uses is between 2.8 and 3.5GB.

For 64bit systems there is no address space problem because the 64bit win7 address space goes up to 128GBs. It is, however, possible that an integrated graphics uses "shared memory" which takes real RAM away from the OS. For the size of that you have to check the specs of the on-board graphics chip.
 

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
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from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
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2x HP w2207
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5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
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with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
For a 32bit system it is a problem of address space. As was said, graphics (even if they have their own memory) and some other functions need address space which can range from 0.5 to 1.2GBs. Thus the adddress space available for the RAM that the OS uses is between 2.8 and 3.5GB.

For 64bit systems there is no address space problem because the 64bit win7 address space goes up to 128GBs. It is, however, possible that an integrated graphics uses "shared memory" which takes real RAM away from the OS. For the size of that you have to check the specs of the on-board graphics chip.

My graphics card has 1gb DEDCATED memory, and has nothing to do with system RAM. The OS is 64-bit, and when i had 3gigs (just upgraded) It showed 3 gigs, not 2 gigs. So, whats wrong?
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Veriton m261 (modded)
OS
Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz
Motherboard
Whatever came with the system
Memory
4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU
Sound Card
Intergrated
Monitor(s) Displays
samsung SyncMaster 2494 24"
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
80gb - IDE
750gb - SATA II
PSU
whatever came with the system
Case
whatever came with the system
Cooling
whatever came with the system
Keyboard
Apple Aluminium (Awesome)
Mouse
Some awesome Dell mouse, really good.
Internet Speed
100mbps
Does the bios report 3 or 4 GB?

Have a look in the bios for anything to do with memory hole or memory remapping, and if available make sure it is set to enabled (being an Acer, it may not be there).
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Me
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so far
Motherboard
Asus M5A97 EVO
Memory
ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Sound Card
Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL Abid
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650W Green
Case
Antec Three Hundred
Cooling
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
35000/3000
My graphics card has 1gb DEDCATED memory

See, that's a bit of information you did not give us before. Would have saved me a lot of typing.
 

My Computer

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
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Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000
My graphics card has 1gb DEDCATED memory
See, that's a bit of information you did not give us before. Would have saved me a lot of typing.

And doesn't make any difference on a 64 bit OS. If that was the case mine would be showing 4 GB installed and 3.5 GB available.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Me
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so far
Motherboard
Asus M5A97 EVO
Memory
ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Sound Card
Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL Abid
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650W Green
Case
Antec Three Hundred
Cooling
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
35000/3000
Some MOBO/Processor combinations will allow 4GB of RAM and installation of a 64-bit OS.

But you are never going to see the 4GB except in the POST or BIOS display.

Case in point - Dell E510.

I don't know if that is what is happening here - but it is something to consider.
 

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OS
XP Pro & Vista Home Premium (x86); Windows Ultimate 7600 x64 Retail
Does the bios report 3 or 4 GB?

Have a look in the bios for anything to do with memory hole or memory remapping, and if available make sure it is set to enabled (being an Acer, it may not be there).

Yeah, but it's 2x 2, so if it werent in BIOS, it would only show 2gigs right? Amd sorry about not telling you all this before.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Veriton m261 (modded)
OS
Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz
Motherboard
Whatever came with the system
Memory
4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU
Sound Card
Intergrated
Monitor(s) Displays
samsung SyncMaster 2494 24"
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
80gb - IDE
750gb - SATA II
PSU
whatever came with the system
Case
whatever came with the system
Cooling
whatever came with the system
Keyboard
Apple Aluminium (Awesome)
Mouse
Some awesome Dell mouse, really good.
Internet Speed
100mbps
Have you checked this option in msconfig?
Select Boot tab, click on Advanced options...
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Ensure that Maximum memory: is unchecked as shown below.
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Click OK twice to save any changes and then restart to put the changes into effect.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 r09/2013
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.4GHz)
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
Memory
4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GeForce GTX770 Gaming OC 2GB
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA)
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
WD 2.0TB Ext USB 3.0
PSU
XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
Case
Gigabyte IF233
Cooling
1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
Mouse
Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
Internet Speed
NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2)
Antivirus
Avast! 8.0.1497
Browser
IE 11
Other Info
Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray
Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
WEI Score: 8.1/8.1/8.5/8.5/8.25
Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter)
Have you checked this option in msconfig?
Select Boot tab, click on Advanced options...
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Ensure that Maximum memory: is unchecked as shown below.
View attachment 51230
Click OK twice to save any changes and then restart to put the changes into effect.

Both are done correctly. Thanks for your help ppl. Hope someone can get me the solution tho.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Veriton m261 (modded)
OS
Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz
Motherboard
Whatever came with the system
Memory
4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU
Sound Card
Intergrated
Monitor(s) Displays
samsung SyncMaster 2494 24"
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
80gb - IDE
750gb - SATA II
PSU
whatever came with the system
Case
whatever came with the system
Cooling
whatever came with the system
Keyboard
Apple Aluminium (Awesome)
Mouse
Some awesome Dell mouse, really good.
Internet Speed
100mbps
My graphics card has 1gb DEDCATED memory
See, that's a bit of information you did not give us before. Would have saved me a lot of typing.

And doesn't make any difference on a 64 bit OS. If that was the case mine would be showing 4 GB installed and 3.5 GB available.

Not so. If it was an integrated graphics chip, it could take real RAM away, not only address space.
 

My Computer

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HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops
OS
Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
CPU
from 1.6GHz Duo to i7
Monitor(s) Displays
2x HP w2207
Hard Drives
5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals
Keyboard
with trackball - no mices
Mouse
Trackball mice
Internet Speed
DSL 6000

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 10, Home Clean Install
CPU
Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
Sound Card
Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell SP2009W 20"
Hard Drives
640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Premium Optical USB
Internet Speed
DSL 2.85

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Veriton m261 (modded)
OS
Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz
Motherboard
Whatever came with the system
Memory
4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU
Sound Card
Intergrated
Monitor(s) Displays
samsung SyncMaster 2494 24"
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
80gb - IDE
750gb - SATA II
PSU
whatever came with the system
Case
whatever came with the system
Cooling
whatever came with the system
Keyboard
Apple Aluminium (Awesome)
Mouse
Some awesome Dell mouse, really good.
Internet Speed
100mbps
I think that the summary of all that was said appears in this article

Windows Vista: 3GB or 4GB RAM?

Uhh, but i have a 64-bit OS, and the artice was about 32-bit OS's. Thanks for your help.

The reasons would be the same. The point of the article is to show that some of the RAM would not show as available. I did not think that the actual allocation was as important as the fact that you do not have a problem
 
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PC/Desktop
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Dell XPS 420
OS
Windows 10, Home Clean Install
CPU
Intel Core2 processsor Q8200(2.33Ghz 1333FSB) Quad Core Tech
Motherboard
Dell
Memory
6 gb
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon 256MB HD3650
Sound Card
Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell SP2009W 20"
Hard Drives
640 GB Serial ATA Hard drive
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Dell USB Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Premium Optical USB
Internet Speed
DSL 2.85

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Acer Veriton m261 (modded)
OS
Win 7 pro 64-bit, Ubuntu 9.10 64-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo 2.60 Ghz
Motherboard
Whatever came with the system
Memory
4 gb ddr2 667 Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia Geforce 9400 GS 1 gb ddr2 550 mhz GPU
Sound Card
Intergrated
Monitor(s) Displays
samsung SyncMaster 2494 24"
Screen Resolution
1080p
Hard Drives
80gb - IDE
750gb - SATA II
PSU
whatever came with the system
Case
whatever came with the system
Cooling
whatever came with the system
Keyboard
Apple Aluminium (Awesome)
Mouse
Some awesome Dell mouse, really good.
Internet Speed
100mbps
Compare this image from my system to that from the first post in this thread. As you can see, they are both 64-bit systems with 4GB of RAM. Mine, however, is showing the full amount as being usable (it only says xGB usable if less than the installed amount).
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Since you have already checked the settings I mentioned in my earlier post about Maximum memory: (you might like to double check),I can only think that it might be a BIOS setting.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dwarf Dwf/11/2012 r09/2013
OS
Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
CPU
Intel Core-i5-3570K 4-core @ 3.4GHz (Ivy Bridge) (OC 4.4GHz)
Motherboard
ASRock Z77 Extreme4-M
Memory
4 x 4GB DDR3-1600 Corsair Vengeance CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9B (16GB)
Graphics Card(s)
MSI GeForce GTX770 Gaming OC 2GB
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition on board solution (ALC 898)
Monitor(s) Displays
ViewSonic VA1912w Widescreen (VGA)
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility 3 SSD 120GB SATA III x2 (RAID 0)
Samsung HD501LJ 500GB SATA II x2
Hitachi HDS721010CLA332 1TB SATA II
Iomega 1.5TB Ext USB 2.0
WD 2.0TB Ext USB 3.0
PSU
XFX Pro Series 850W Semi-Modular
Case
Gigabyte IF233
Cooling
1 x 120mm Front Inlet 1 x 120mm Rear Exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft Comfort Curve Keyboard 3000 (USB)
Mouse
Microsoft Comfort Mouse 3000 for Business (USB)
Internet Speed
NetGear DG834Gv3 ADSL Modem/Router (Ethernet) ~4.0 Mb/s (O2)
Antivirus
Avast! 8.0.1497
Browser
IE 11
Other Info
Optical Drive: HL-DT-ST BD-RE BH10LS30 SATA Bluray
Lexmark S305 Printer/Scanner/Copier (USB)
WEI Score: 8.1/8.1/8.5/8.5/8.25
Asus Eee PC 1011PX Netbook (Windows 7 x86 Starter)
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