Win7 SP1 released to public

[Night Hawk]

Welcome to SF! valerian101

The 64bit stand alone will be the 64bt with the exe at the end. The name will be seen as "windows6.1-KB976932-X64.exe" for the 64bit. Note the "X64" for the 64bit.

When you see the error screen come up upon any attempt note the link seen right at the bottom left for an MS page. That will address the specific error with 3 or 4 options for solving installation problems.

Here the SP1 was stubborn until with the finished service pack MS added the solutions found to work with one for those who have previously restored images to the main drive. Once I used the mountvol /e command at an elevated command prompt and restarted SP1 went right on. Likely one of those will be what you need there.

 

[valerian101]

Mixed Blessings!

Thank you, NightHawk, for the welcome. So much nicer to feel at 'home'.

I downloaded the standalone package - took 2hrs 57 minutes with my 116kB/sec download speed. It's so lovely to live in the English Lake District but it does have its downside.

You very correctly diagnosed the installation problem of SP1 with the system restore program which I had used. I chose not to use the standalone package which I have burnt to disk, but used a system image - one before the SP1 original installation. I then downloaded and installed the updates; a windows defender and the SP1 with Kaspersky turned off. Everything went through smoothly except I am back where I started with the speech recognition program failing to pick up the microphone!

I wish I could contact MS directly to make them aware of this problem. For the present I am using my keyboard to type text although I am considering reinstalling Dragon Naturally Speaking which I used with XP. I do not find it as effective as the Win 7 program.

 

[valerian101]

Just spent 40 minutes on the phone with a MS specialist support engineer. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my system. The problem is that with I now have Windows 7 with SP1 and not Windows 7. The difference is that my Plantronics headset DSP-550 is not compatible with the new Windows 7 with Service Pack 1. I have now contacted Plantronics explaining the compatibility issue which they need to address with an updated driver.

Thanks to everyone who has attempted to resolve this problem and especially to NightHawk.

 

[NoN]

Oh I make a mirror image of the fully installed Win7 with all updates just in case something happens.

With the softwares used here you only have so many times allowed to activate them which means a clean install could result in the need to buy a new license for some. Plus I have some work tied up in other projects.The full system image option is the obvious solution for that especially now that SP1 is on.

Another thing however is actually the rare need to perform a clean install. One replacement install last June due to swapping brands of memory right after getting this case up and an image restored back in Oct. when running a test on something.

Now that the SP is on a fresh image to replace the previous works well here. With the volume of programs and tools seen here it would take a few days to get everything back on individually not including any new updates to be seen.

Wondering how much per year you're allowed to reinstall...

Just done it yesterday from scratch (second time in two months, third time in a year), i've not allowed W.U updates when it created the new account.

Installed Windows 7 SP1 from the microsoft .iso burnt on Dvd after my desktop was well set. It tooks an hour and half including reboots.

I noticed the volume was more important than the SP1 install provided in W.U, so make me think stand-alone install fixed more files. Got about 10 updates in W.U after the stand-alone SP1 install.

It tooks me an entire day to reinstall my programs, and again all this let me think it is far better manner to have all your programs running smoother and not being buggy by this new incoming SP1. I'll done it again that way!

PS:
as exemple...my index (during a sfc /scannow file checker) before SP1 was 143336 files, after SP1 upgrade in W.U it was 193336 and now with the stand-alone SP1 install it exceed 23xxxx index files!

 

[David Ben Yosef]

Mind you I'm not knocking making an image, I've thought about it, but just never bothered to actually do it.

I'm not knocking it either. I've done it before just for an experiment, and it actually takes me less time to do a clean install [if I don't zero the disc out first, and just delete the partitions]. I only run about a dozen programs. When you create an installation disc using the WAIK, you can install all your programs at the same time as the OS, and can even make it unattended. It's pretty nice to just boot from DVD, and go watch some T.V for a little while and come back to your loaded desktop with a clean install.

These days, installing everything from USB thumbdrives, I can be up and running on the internet in no time. I can remember when it took me all day, or even a couple of days to get everything the way I wanted it. Those are not fond memories.

I hear that! I used to have to go through the same thing as well.

With the softwares used here you only have so many times allowed to activate them which means a clean install could result in the need to buy a new license for some.

Well, in that case, making a backup image is the way to go. Personally, I wouldn't own an OS disc that had limited installs. But I do understand that some people have to go that route, for one reason or another. I recommend buying a TechNet account for anyone who is going to purchase Windows 7. The upside to that is astronomical. It pays for itself many times over, especially when you use Office on a regular basis.

 

[Night Hawk]

Just spent 40 minutes on the phone with a MS specialist support engineer. There is absolutely nothing wrong with my system. The problem is that with I now have Windows 7 with SP1 and not Windows 7. The difference is that my Plantronics headset DSP-550 is not compatible with the new Windows 7 with Service Pack 1. I have now contacted Plantronics explaining the compatibility issue which they need to address with an updated driver.

Thanks to everyone who has attempted to resolve this problem and especially to NightHawk.

I'm glad to hear you were able to get SP1 to go right on for you. I'm sure that's a relief!

Until MS finally provided some solutions when going to the error page I wasn't able to get the previous beta or RC to finish but only rollback at 99% until the info about restored images to drive was updated.

As far as the headset and speech recognition program keep on their case! That's the only way they'll ever see to updating their wares. I ran into a similar problem with ISP provided modems without 64bit driver support. Solution: Buy a separate modem

It shows companies tend to fall way behind on things.

 

[valerian101]

As far as the headset and speech recognition program keep on their case! That's the only way they'll ever see to updating their wares. I ran into a similar problem with ISP provided modems without 64bit driver support. Solution: Buy a separate modem

It shows companies tend to fall way behind on things.

What you wrote, NightHawk, echoes the words of the support engineer. When he phoned me later, I said I had contacted Plantronics and he said that by doing that I had alerted them to the problem, helping them (Plantronics), Microsoft and the World! Think maybe he was a little OTT.

I was surprised to read that one forum member finds it quicker to do a clean install. A clean install cleans the drive and the registry, but I find that having an automatic weekly back up and system image added to my second drive, means I can, as I did, restore all my programs, files and folders in about 40 mins - just time to enjoy a cup of freshly made coffee. Doing that in the case of the failure to install SP1 after using a system restore point, solved the problem. Just a shame about the now incompatible driver. It means I have to type!!!

I can actually type quite quickly but I am lazy.

BTW I got the impression that the Windows 7 specialist engineer didn't know that their software contained an excellent speech recognition program. Now, doesn't that make you smile without using a smiley.

 

[Night Hawk]

I run into outdated stuff too often. When first getting the new cable setup and asking about the lack of 64bit drivers for the modem the ISP provides the service person didn't even know the difference between a 64bit Windows and a 64bit encryptive feature! :sarc: I said I couldn't connect online with the then 64bit beta and .... got nowhere fast!

It's no surprize that some find it far easier to simply wipe a drive to put a fresh install of 7 considering how much faster it installs over previous versions. The typical time for seeing all setup files copied to the drive and initial restart is at 12min. compared to over 20min. seen with the older versions.

In 20 minutes you are changing the wallpaper while it always used to be about 40+ minutes to finally get there the first time. The measured time for restoring a full image here has been 35min. each time. On the other hand a repair install took about 80min to complete. Full clean install=20min then add all device drivers, updates, programs, etc. hours go by!

Here one SP1 install success resulted in two full images being stored on two separate storage drives. It's much more efficient and reliable in the long run until the time does come for a fresh install of everything.

 

[David Ben Yosef]

I was surprised to read that one forum member finds it quicker to do a clean install.

That's only for two reasons though...

1.) I only run about a dozen programs on my machine.
2.) I created an unattended installation DVD that installs all my programs at the same time Windows is being installed. [it took about a week to create that disc]

That method isn't for everyone though. The backup image method you chose is MUCH more popular, and I'm not knocking it. In fact, I condone/advocate that method. However, if I were to use your method, I would invest in Acronis' software, as opposed to the Microsoft native backup program.

 

[David Ben Yosef]

It's no surprize that some find it far easier to simply wipe a drive to put a fresh install of 7 considering how much faster it installs over previous versions. The typical time for seeing all setup files copied to the drive and initial restart is at 12min. compared to over 20min. seen with the older versions.

Really? It only took me 8 minutes for XP. But that's because it was a 12x CD, as opposed to a 4x DVD. The XP-Pro SP3 installation flew right along for me. In the end, they are pretty close to the same amount of time for everything.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Start up

Have been away for a bit - sick not jail lol!! Now after SP1 my sboot and IE open tiem is still slow the noticeable difference is in the WMP ie. ripping is faster but I don't think the lossless burns are as good a quality.


Anyone else noticed??

 

[valerian101]

However, if I were to use your method, I would invest in Acronis' software, as opposed to the Microsoft native backup program.

Hmm... 'Spose I would have to pay for Acronis and I am such a tight old devil!:devil:

Hope you're fully fit again, ICit2lol - love your name.
I can't comment on the IE because I use Firefox. The Geeks I know recommend Google Chrome.

 

[David Ben Yosef]

Hmm... 'Spose I would have to pay for Acronis and I am such a tight old devil!:devil:

Yep...you sure would, but it's the best backup solution available IMHO. Why skimp on something as important as backing up your precious PC? I experimented with the native backup software, and was really unimpressed with it.

I can't comment on the IE because I use Firefox. The Geeks I know recommend Google Chrome.

Oh no!!! Your going to start a browser debating war!!! Everyone RUN!!! LOL

If you like Firefox, you'll LOVE Lunascape. You can use the same engine as Firefox [Gecko] while keeping all your favorite add-ons, AND get all the cool extra's that come with Lunascape. Give it a try HERE.

Did you notice how I was careful not to degrade any browser? That's what starts the wars. Many people are really sensative about their favorite browser.

 

[alphanumeric]

Mind you I'm not knocking making an image, I've thought about it, but just never bothered to actually do it.

I'm not knocking it either. I've done it before just for an experiment, and it actually takes me less time to do a clean install [if I don't zero the disc out first, and just delete the partitions]. I only run about a dozen programs. When you create an installation disc using the WAIK, you can install all your programs at the same time as the OS, and can even make it unattended. It's pretty nice to just boot from DVD, and go watch some T.V for a little while and come back to your loaded desktop with a clean install.

I've been wanting to make an unattended install version for my main desktop. Just the basic stuff that you are asked for during the install, language, region, product code, time zone, etc. I've tried to create the answer file a couple of times but any of the guides I've tried to follow just end up confusing me and giving me a headache. I've been hoping someone would create a tutorial, hint, hint,

Actually, a link to an easy to understand giude would do. I've done it for windows XP before and it was relitively painless. Seems a little more complicated for windows 7 though.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Hiyya valerian

However, if I were to use your method, I would invest in Acronis' software, as opposed to the Microsoft native backup program.

Hmm... 'Spose I would have to pay for Acronis and I am such a tight old devil!:devil:

Hope you're fully fit again, ICit2lol - love your name.
I can't comment on the IE because I use Firefox. The Geeks I know recommend Google Chrome.

Yeh I thought I might try Firefox again or as well as IE don't know if this will clog up the system but can always take one or the other off if so eh?

Anyway that was suggested to me yesterday as I am getting a fair bit of spam and maybe there's an email I could run through it as an alternative.


Bit OT the name well that's just my bi-polar coming out he he!! Oh and in return I love the Lake district too (ex pat Sussex) and spent some value time there on hols a few years ago, but before I get a slap on the wrists lol!!

 

[essenbe]

I had to use Firefox. For some reason ie locks up my computer almost every time I use it.
Also, if you have a Western Digital or Seagate external or internal HD, they both offer free backup programs which are scaled down versions of Acronis. They are free to download from their web sites. The free version of Macrium is pretty good also and much faster.

 

[NoN]

Have been away for a bit - sick not jail lol!! Now after SP1 my sboot and IE open tiem is still slow the noticeable difference is in the WMP ie. ripping is faster but I don't think the lossless burns are as good a quality.


Anyone else noticed??

Humm, my IE8 is at the moment buggy only with "saving favorites"...it says it can't save in some folders already created, then can save it in the general folder... When i close IE clean the cache, i can save in created folders.

WMP is faster for me searching database librairies and infos, didn't tested yet the burning.

I'm using lossless files aswell but i do burn with another soft.
.ISO image's burning very well here with native Windows 7 command...

About lunascape is a nice browser, that i tested for few month last year. Prefered IE8 for pure commodity and waiting soon that IE9.

I haven't noticed any slow in shut-down and boot session at all...

Only some strange behavior & very very minor ones after boot.

 

[David Ben Yosef]

Yeh I thought I might try Firefox again or as well as IE don't know if this will clog up the system but can always take one or the other off if so eh?

I write JavaScript codes for another forum I'm involved with, and have to constantly check the coding for browser compatibility. I have Opera, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, Lunascape, and IE all installed on my lab machine, and they run perfectly. It won't "clog" your system one bit, because they are all independent applications.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

New browsers

Yes I found a few in a local mag that I never heard of before but not game to try them until I get my build done. But the slowness of IE9 at the moment 64 or 32bit is pretty ordinary.

The WMP quality issue I might try the VLC app for a comparison can't lose anything.

 

[Night Hawk]

When you create an installation disc using the WAIK, you can install all your programs at the same time as the OS, and can even make it unattended. It's pretty nice to just boot from DVD, and go watch some T.V for a little while and come back to your loaded desktop with a clean install.

With the softwares used here you only have so many times allowed to activate them which means a clean install could result in the need to buy a new license for some.

Well, in that case, making a backup image is the way to go. Personally, I wouldn't own an OS disc that had limited installs. But I do understand that some people have to go that route, for one reason or another. I recommend buying a TechNet account for anyone who is going to purchase Windows 7. The upside to that is astronomical. It pays for itself many times over, especially when you use Office on a regular basis.

Iwasn't referring to any OS disk but various softwares that also require their activation and the limited amount of times those can be reinstalled without a new purchase. Typically you have uninstall each one while still connected online before Windows can see a fresh install with repeat installs of those.

I was surprised to read that one forum member finds it quicker to do a clean install.

That's only for two reasons though...

1.) I only run about a dozen programs on my machine.
2.) I created an unattended installation DVD that installs all my programs at the same time Windows is being installed. [it took about a week to create that disc]

That method isn't for everyone though. The backup image method you chose is MUCH more popular, and I'm not knocking it. In fact, I condone/advocate that method. However, if I were to use your method, I would invest in Acronis' software, as opposed to the Microsoft native backup program.

I run the Acronos True Image full version here but found the builtin restoration you can start while booted in 7 or from the 7 media reliably restored images to the host drive numerous times in fact prior to getting the present case together.

Acronis T.I. on the other hand seems to restore images to secondary drives unless booted from a recovery disk you have to make up. While in Windows however 7 wins for starting the recovery option.

It's no surprize that some find it far easier to simply wipe a drive to put a fresh install of 7 considering how much faster it installs over previous versions. The typical time for seeing all setup files copied to the drive and initial restart is at 12min. compared to over 20min. seen with the older versions.

Really? It only took me 8 minutes for XP. But that's because it was a 12x CD, as opposed to a 4x DVD. The XP-Pro SP3 installation flew right along for me. In the end, they are pretty close to the same amount of time for everything.

Dvd? XP came on cd-rs. Vista was the first to see dvd media. On average hardwares here for both of those two previous versions, XP on cd, Vista on dvd they both take about the same amount of time for the initial copy of setup files and finally reaching the desktop the first time coming in at 40+ minutes. W7 = 20minutes total on the same exact hardwares.

The next clean install of 7 with SP1 entered into the mix will be interesting however.

Now speaking about browsers I gathered up a folder full of Windows compatible versions for various browsers with several being dumped after comparisons. But that wouid be material for an entirely new thread on that.

The next image made however will see the final for IE 9 as well as the SP1 included until that eventual clean install comes up.