Windows 7 BSOD after HDD move.

[RolandHazoto]

Ok, I'll make this as detailed as possible.
Background
I had an HP laptop that I upgraded to Windows 7 as soon as I got my discs in the mail. The laptop is as of now 14 months old (and was purchased refurbished) and last week I went to restart after it froze when I was trying to bridge two network connections and it wouldn't get past the HP screen (can't even access the bios) I'm figuring it eventually just over-heated and I probably fried somethin.
Issue
So a friend of mine gave me a Gateway he has that has a broken screen. Naturally the first thing I tried was swapping the HDDs. Of course, said actions did not work and I was given a Blue Screen (0x0000007B, 0x80786b58, 0x00000034, 0x00000000, 0x00000000) so I hit up google, it seems to be a motherboard controller issue. I have tried the startup repair, it will not fix it. System Restore obviously will not work as the old laptop was 14 months old (and yes I had tried). I have tried a Windows 7 Live Disc also, that just gave me a 0x000000c7 error, no big deal I didn't think it would boot anyway, just thought I'd try... So now I am at a stand still and have signed up on these forums because I am desperate for help! I really need to not lose my documents from that HDD; I'd lose almost a year of school work (including some projects that are due very soon!) I can't think of a way to do an upgrade/repair install thanks to the blue screen... A thought crossed my mind, if I boot into a linux distro via a thumdrive (in particularly Backtrack 3) is there some way I can delete the old motherboard drivers manually? (as in delete specific .ini files or even .dll files) I am open to any suggestions...
Afterthoughts
This is the biggest HDD in the house (and the files I have to keep from losing are bigger than the other HDDs in the house) so even if I got my hands on an external casing I don't exactly have anywhere to move em to, but if I could move em somehow within the HDD so that I can just move em back after the reinstall of Windows 7...

 

[Jonathan_King]

Welcome!

When I think about it, I believe you are going down the wrong trail. The hard drive seems fine, demonstrated by the fact that the other HD did not work, and supported by the error messages pointing to a bad motherboard.

Even if you can backup the data, what will you do next? Choose what makes sense for you, but you could take the machine into the shop and get the motherboard replaced, buy a new laptop, or find an identical machine and replace the MB yourself.

Either way, you can hang onto the hard drive, and not worry about the data on it.

Hope this helps,
~JK

P.S. Can I recommend a high-capacity external hard drive for backup space? It is a scary position to be in when you have more data than you can backup.

 

[RolandHazoto]

It seems you misunderstand, I am trying to recover the one from the HP by either deleting the drivers by hand somehow (incredibly lost on how to pull it off without being able to boot into it) or moving the data to a location on that same hardrive that won't be affected by me reinstalling 7. I am aware the hard drive is fine, it's the windows 7 installation that needs repair because I must put that hard drive into this gateway. (causing the motherboard conflict)
So I need to reinstall (or somehow repair) windows 7 without losing the documents.

 

[Jonathan_King]

If you can boot into the Installation Disc, go ahead and install right on top of your current installation. Be very careful not to format the drive, because if you do, you will lose all your data.

Your files will be backed up to a folder called Windows.old, and placed in C:.

 

[Capt.Jack Sparrow]

If we have the Dump we can nail the issue more specific http://www.sevenforums.com/crash-lockup-debug-how/34900-1-novice-how-ask-help-bsod-problem.html

 

[RolandHazoto]

If you can boot into the Installation Disc, go ahead and install right on top of your current installation. Be very careful not to format the drive, because if you do, you will lose all your data.

Your files will be backed up to a folder called Windows.old, and placed in C:.

I was thinking about trying that I am just so damn scared the the users file will be re-written and I will lose the files I am concerned with saving. So I just need to know for certain that I will not lose my documents? (even if it means creating a user with a different name or whatever) From what I can recall windows.old only contains the windows installation and not the documents but if I am wrong please let me know because this can solve everything!

If we have the Dump we can nail the issue more specific http://www.sevenforums.com/crash-lockup-debug-how/34900-1-novice-how-ask-help-bsod-problem.html

Unfortunately, unless there is something I am missing, I have no way to acess the dump file cuz I cannot boot in normal or safe mode to do anything with anything on the hard drive.

 

[Capt.Jack Sparrow]

You could perform a Repair install I'm not not wrong

 

[RolandHazoto]

You could perform a Repair install I'm not not wrong

ALready read over that like 4 times lookin for a loophole, can't do it without being able to boot into it...

 

[Capt.Jack Sparrow]

Sorry forgot about that

 

[RolandHazoto]

Sorry forgot about that

No worries. Any thoughts on the re-install idea?

 

[Capt.Jack Sparrow]

Sorry forgot about that

No worries. Any thoughts on the re-install idea?

I'm more concern about your data .. So my answer should be accurate .. Let me see whether i could get hold of someone

 

[gregrocker]

Try booting into the Win7 DVD Repair console, click through to Recovery Tools list to run Startup Repair up to 3 separate times with reboots - no matter what it reports or says. It might be able to sort it out enough to get it started. It will then swap out all drivers and request 2-3 restarts.

If this fails, boot free Partition Wizard bootable CD, select 1 for screen res, rightclick Win7>Resize then slide the left border over to make room for a new Win7 installation at the beginning of the HD, OK, Apply. Leave the space unallocated.

Now boot into the Win7 DVD, select Custom install, use Drive Tools to create and format a partition in the unallocated space to install Win7. Do not touch the partition containing old Win7/data to the right.

It will likely configure a dual boot which we can help you get rid of along with the old OS files, making a data partition instead where your data is safer anyway.

 

[RolandHazoto]

Try booting into the Win7 DVD Repair console, click through to Recovery Tools list to run Startup Repair up to 3 separate times with reboots - no matter what it reports or says. It might be able to sort it out enough to get it started. It will then swap out all drivers and request 2-3 restarts.

If this fails, boot free Partition Wizard bootable CD, select 1 for screen res, rightclick Win7>Resize then slide the left border over to make room for a new Win7 installation at the beginning of the HD, OK, Apply. Leave the space unallocated.

Now boot into the Win7 DVD, select Custom install, use Drive Tools to create and format a partition in the unallocated space to install Win7. Do not touch the partition containing old Win7/data to the right.

It will likely configure a dual boot which we can help you get rid of along with the old OS files, making a data partition instead where your data is safer anyway.

A coworker actually had that cross my mind earlier, cuz he mentioned about putting a 2nd partition in but then the thought crossed my mind that I have 400Gb of stuff (I suppose the 72+ movies can be lost if need be, but I still need like 50+Gb of the stuff) and only a 500Gb HDD so I'd have no way to transition the stuff over to the single partition... I guess I can do it as a last resort if need be... I'd rather try to find a way to fix the existing one though (dual partitions drive me nuts for organization..)

 

[gregrocker]

Did you boot into the Win7 DVD Repair console to run Startup Repair 3 separate times with reboots?

There is a Paragon add-on (to their HD manager) that will adapt a HD to new hardware: http://www.paragon-software.com/home/hdm-personal-adaptive-restore/

You may not have the luxury to pick and choose from a lot of options here.

You would be installing Win7 to a new partition to recover your data. After install, you can transfer the data into the Win7 partition while shrinking down the data partition as you do.

Eventually all of the data can be in the new Win7 partition, leaving only the old Win7 OS in the old partition which you can then delete and recover the space into Win7.

 

[RolandHazoto]

Did you boot into the Win7 DVD Repair console to run Startup Repair 3 separate times with reboots?

There is a Paragon add-on (to their HD manager) that will adapt a HD to new hardware: Paragon Adaptive Restore (Add-on for Hard Disk Manager 2009 Suite and Pro) - Overview

You may not have the luxury to pick and choose from a lot of options here.

You would be installing Win7 to a new partition to recover your data. After install, you can transfer the data into the Win7 partition while shrinking down the data partition as you do.

Eventually all of the data can be in the new Win7 partition, leaving only the old Win7 OS in the old partition which you can then delete and recover the space into Win7.

The wording of that description is a bit confusing... I understand how a VM works but I don't believe it would be involved for this process. (and the software description notes that it does do hardware migration also) How would the transfer process work? I would like to understand that before making attempts. I've always been a strong believer in doing as much research as possible before attempting anything of this nature (much like game console modding)
And perhaps I forgot to note it in my first post, but yes, I ran the startup repair wizard to the point where it told me it could not repair it, (4 or 5 times perhaps) it was after that that I noted the blue screen, did some research and turned here.
I must get some rest for work, but whatever options I seem to have about 12 hours from now I'm going to need to start attempting if I am to meet any of my deadlines...
A last minute note: I did not boot into the DVD startup repair everytime, I used the one on the HDD (auto launches after BSOD) if this matters any (which I doubt) please let me know...

 

[ickymay]

It's not quite as simple as you think to "move motherboard drivers around" in fact I wouldn't even try, and given your primary purpose is to recover your data, and that you have some time constraints i would personally not even try to repair the install on the original 500gb drive

I would be connecting that drive with the data on, to another running system and simply pick off what i needed immediately with a view to removing all the large files at a later date

presumably your going to be using the Gateway with the cracked screen as a temporary measure ?

given that you believe your original laptop is fried what will you be replacing this with ?

I think you should cut your losses and concentrate on preserving your data with a view to getting it all back at a later date

N.B. something like this USB 2.0 to IDE SATA S-ATA 2.5 3.5 5.25 Adapter Cable will connect your drive to any working pc with USB ports

 

[theog]

Remove your HD from PC & plug in to a other PC with USB adapter.

 

[RolandHazoto]

It's not quite as simple as you think to "move motherboard drivers around" in fact I wouldn't even try, and given your primary purpose is to recover your data, and that you have some time constraints i would personally not even try to repair the install on the original 500gb drive

I would be connecting that drive with the data on, to another running system and simply pick off what i needed immediately with a view to removing all the large files at a later date

presumably your going to be using the Gateway with the cracked screen as a temporary measure ?

given that you believe your original laptop is fried what will you be replacing this with ?

I think you should cut your losses and concentrate on preserving your data with a view to getting it all back at a later date

N.B. something like this USB 2.0 to IDE SATA S-ATA 2.5 3.5 5.25 Adapter Cable will connect your drive to any working pc with USB ports

The gateway is replacing the hp for awhile (at least a few months) due to a lack of finances (read: job pays crap and can't afford a new one)

Remove your HD from PC & plug in to a other PC with USB adapter.

again, a lack of finances and such...

I'm off to work now, I'll be looking over all of this again in about 6 hours and beginning what needs to be done...

 

[ickymay]

It's not quite as simple as you think to "move motherboard drivers around" in fact I wouldn't even try, and given your primary purpose is to recover your data, and that you have some time constraints i would personally not even try to repair the install on the original 500gb drive

I would be connecting that drive with the data on, to another running system and simply pick off what i needed immediately with a view to removing all the large files at a later date

presumably your going to be using the Gateway with the cracked screen as a temporary measure ?

given that you believe your original laptop is fried what will you be replacing this with ?

I think you should cut your losses and concentrate on preserving your data with a view to getting it all back at a later date

N.B. something like this USB 2.0 to IDE SATA S-ATA 2.5 3.5 5.25 Adapter Cable will connect your drive to any working pc with USB ports

The gateway is replacing the hp for awhile (at least a few months) due to a lack of finances (read: job pays crap and can't afford a new one)

Remove your HD from PC & plug in to a other PC with USB adapter.

again, a lack of finances and such...

I'm off to work now, I'll be looking over all of this again in about 6 hours and beginning what needs to be done...

the adapter I linked to and theog repeated only costs £7.56 from ebay :huh:

I use one of them quite often to recover customers data

 

[gregrocker]

I would still try booting the Win7 DVD Repair console, click through to Recovery Tools list and run Startup Repair repeatedly. Running a repair which is offered during attempt to boot Win7 is not always the same.

If you boot Partition Wizard CD, how much space will it allow you to shrink your current install from the left when you select Resize and use the grey slider bar?