Solved Windows 7...why?

Worth the effort? I'm so tired of learning a new operating system with each new computer. My desktop has Vista Home. This laptop has Win 7 which is missing so much I can't begin to foam at the mouth.
What is there to learn between Vista and Windows 7? The differences, in terms of usability and features are subtle, if that. The only time you need to learn a new operating system is when you switch platforms, such as going to Linux or Apple.

If a laptop is missing something with Windows 7 that is present with Vista, then most likely that is third-party apps that haven't been installed on the new laptop. As for as the OSes go, there's very little differences in what's there and what isn't.
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
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Intel Core i7-2600
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Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
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12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
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Nvidia GTX 470
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Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
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OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
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OCZ ModStream 700W
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CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
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CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus

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Hewlett-Packard/G62-107SA Notebook
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit Service Pack 1
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3 CPU M 330 @ 2.13GHz
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Hewlett-Packard 1425
Memory
8 GB DDR3
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Intel(R) HD Graphics
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
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Builtin
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
250 GB SATA Hard Disk Drive 7200 rpm
2TB Seagate GoFlex USB 2 Drive
1TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive
1.5TB Iomega Prestige USB 2 Drive (Samsung)
2TB WD MyBook Live NAS.
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Logitech Anywhere MX
Internet Speed
152 Mbs download 10 Mbs upload
Antivirus
Norton 360
Browser
Chrome
Is this a new laptop, Kathleen? Clean up factory bloatware

Can you tell us what are the problems specifically, no foam?

Where is the recycle bin? If I delete a file where does it go?

Strictly speaking it doesn't go anywhere. The Recycle Bin is just a collection of files to be permanently deleted.

How do I access something in the recycle bin? If I delete a file and then decide I don't want to permanently delete it, where is it?
 

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Windows 7 home
Click on the Recycle Bin to see contents.

Only empty it once you're sure.

Set size by rightclicking>Properties to avoid auto-deletion.

Beware that CCleaner or Disk Cleanup may empty it if you don't deselect that choice.

The Recycle Bin? Really? Is that all? Surely you have more?
 
Where is the recycle bin? If I delete a file where does it go?
The functionality of the Recycle Bin is identical to Vista and XP. If the OEM you bought your laptop from didn't put it in the desktop for you, that isn't Microsoft's fault, and isn't something new to "learn". It just means you need to customize the OS to your liking...not something that Microsoft or the OEM can do for you.

While on the subject, this is why most of us perform a full, clean install on a new OEM system. We can install the OS the way we want, and set it up exactly as we want.
 

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OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-2600
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
Memory
12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 470
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
Hard Drives
OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
PSU
OCZ ModStream 700W
Case
CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
Cooling
CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
If you really can't find the Recycle Bin on your desktop, do this:

  • Right-click on an empty spot somewhere on your desktop (not on any icons or gadgets).
  • From the context menu, select Personalize.
  • In the window that shows up, look in the upper left corner for Change desktop icons and click on that.
  • Now you can choose which of the standard desktop icons, including the Recycle Bin, you want to appear. As a safety measure, you might also uncheck Allow themes to change desktop icons.
  • Click the OK button. Done :)
 

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PC/Desktop
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Custom-built
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Windows 7 Professional SP1 32-bit
CPU
Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz
Motherboard
Asus PL5D2
Memory
4GB DDR2-667 (4x1GB in dual-channel config)
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nVidia GeForce 9800 GT
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Creative X-Fi XtremeMusic
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Acer P236H
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1920x1200 (DVI)
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OCZ SSD Vertex Plus 60GB SATA (Firmware 3.55), 64MB cache
Hitachi HD321KJ SATA, 320GB, 7200rpm, 16MB cache
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Antec TruePower 2.0
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Cooler Master Centurion
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Too many fans
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Standard
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Microsoft wireless optical mouse
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AT&T U-verse (18mbit/sec)
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Microsoft Security Essentials
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Firefox
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Hardkernel ODROID-XU single-board computer (Samsung Exynos 5420)
Input devices...you mean these:

Exactly. They are blanked out. The drop down list is blank in W7.
Blank on your computer maybe. The speaker icon on the bottom right of the taskbar, right-click it go to "Recording Devices" then when there right-click in the middle of the pane. "Show Disabled/Disconnected Devices" are both checked.

If you have no devices that means you have not installed the proper drivers. Windows 7 supports input devices just fine.
 

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Windows 10 Pro (x64)
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Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
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Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
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4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
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Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
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SteelSeries Siberia Elite
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Dell UltraSharp U3011
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Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
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875W Some Dell PSU <.<
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Alienware Aurora ALX
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Logitech G710+ Mechanical
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Logitech G700s
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User must be "reconfigured"

IMO, each generation of OS should get easier to use, not more difficult.
This is where you have to separate your own personal opinion from actual results. Windows 7 IS easier to use. Why?

Well, it's more reliable, and it handles many maintenance tasks by itself. The adaptation takes days, not weeks or years, such as learning a new language.

I should have included reliability in my exceptions.
"More difficult" was the wrong phrase. :o

That said, XP is extremely reliable on my machine.

"Twitchiness" on my PC (Least to Most):

  • 2010 - Ubuntu 10.04, XP, W7
  • 2011 - XP, W7, Ubuntu 10.04
To be fair, I use W7 most of the time (~95%+) followed by Ubuntu (~4%) and XP (~1%).
That means W7 has more opportunities to annoy me. :)

I'm also not saying this from personal opinion. I rolled Windows 7 out to 30 less than tech savvy employees at my company, who had been used to XP with Office 2003. In a matter of a week or two, people all got the hang of it, especially the ribbon interface in Office 2007. See, it is more intuitive, because it puts more of the options on screen, rather than bury them in menus. People appreciate that, because they don't need to memorize menu locations.

I knew that mentioning the Ribbon would cause trouble. :D

Office 2007:
"How do I print this document? Where is the file menu?"
"Look under the lollipop button."
"Oh! That thing is a button?"

Since we're swapping anecdotes, I first encountered the Ribbon in 2008 (I was doing a training course).
A girl asked how to print a document.
The other students and myself, looked at the interface and were completely bamboozled.
I was so stunned, I even forgot that "Ctrl +P" would bring up the dialogue window. :o

There was no screen tip (standard windows bug, non-appearing screen tip) and the visual effects were turned off, so the lollipop button didn't light up when the mouse pointer was hovering over it.

People recognise patterns (I do).

The Ribbon looks the same, regardless of the option, only the top tab position changes.
There were quite a few distinct patterns with the menus.
If I was in the wrong menu, my subconscious mind would say to my conscious mind, "something's wrong".
I get no warning when I'm using the Ribbon.

Once people were taught about menus, they could open up almost any program and attempt to use it.
"I go to the file menu to open a file. I go to the help menu to find about."

The Ribbon's only advantages over menus and toolbars:

  • Text Labels.
  • It is easier to repeatedly perform the same function on multiple objects (e.g. placing a box around text).
MS collected data and then used that data to justify their decision.

Alternative explanations that can be drawn from that data are:


  • "...their total inability to provide any useful help, or instructions, on the use of built-in features."
  • Poor configuration of MS Office by IT staff.
I actually find the Ribbon to be an improvement in Excel, but a PITA in Word.

As for Windows 7, not much has changed about the basics. You still open programs the same way. You still boot up, login, and shut down the same way. Now my users can use the search feature to find a document, whether they saved it or they left it in an e-mail. The list goes on. But to suggest that OSes get harder to use is just.....not true.

At no time did I state that it was easier to teach "newbies":

  • XP operations, compared to W7.
  • Menu operations, compared to the Ribbon.
It may come as a surprise, but "newbies" aren't the people who complained about the changes.
"Newbies" can't complain, because they have no point of reference.

"More difficult" was the wrong phrase. :o

How much more powerful is a 2011 PC compared to a 2001 PC?
Based on "Moore's Law" the answer is ~32.

There is almost no reason why a new PC, can't successfully simulate an old GUI.
It should be a piece of cake for a modern OS to be reconfigured to suit the user.
According to MS (and other OS makers) the user is the one who must be "reconfigured".

After being "reconfigured" can the user do 32x as much work?
No. They had to relearn how to do the same work and gained few percent improvement in output (if that).

Well said. This and you previous post in this thread would most certainly get some rep from me but I have to "spread around", so instead I want to publicly thank you of these posts.

These threads about how much better XP was and what's wrong with Seven seem to re-surface every few months. Fact is Windows 7 is a well working, easy to use and maintain OS; it's time to let XP retire.

Kari

At no time did I state that W7 was rubbish, in fact W7 is my preferred OS.
These days I only open XP on "Patch Tuesday" (Wednesday for me) or if I notice a program update (e.g. Foxit Reader).

That doesn't mean, I can't agree with anyone who complains that they don't like/understand certain differences.
 
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AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
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ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
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12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
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Input devices...you mean these:

Exactly. They are blanked out. The drop down list is blank in W7.
Blank on your computer maybe. The speaker icon on the bottom right of the taskbar, right-click it go to "Recording Devices" then when there right-click in the middle of the pane. "Show Disabled/Disconnected Devices" are both checked.

If you have no devices that means you have not installed the proper drivers. Windows 7 supports input devices just fine.

Those links have me bewildered. I don't have the technical knowledge to follow the content. And which drivers do I require?

Here is a screen shot. with the blank inputs and the "speaker" icon showing only mike inputs which still do not show up in audacity input devices.

audacity%20query.gif
 

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W7
Its blank because you have nothing plugged into the Microphone port.
Aka. Disconnected. Plug in a microphone and it should show up.
 

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Alienware Aurora ALX R4
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Windows 10 Pro (x64)
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Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz - 4.5GHz)
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Alienware Aurora-R4 x79
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4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz)
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Nvidia Geforce GTX 690
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SteelSeries Siberia Elite
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Dell UltraSharp U3011
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2560x1600
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Samsung 850 Pro 256 GB, Seagate 1TB Desktop Hybrid HDD, 2x Western Digital 4TB Green HDD
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875W Some Dell PSU <.<
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Alienware Aurora ALX
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Custom Liquid Cooling (EK CPU & GPU blocks) dual EK 480RAD
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Logitech G710+ Mechanical
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Logitech G700s
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These threads about how much better XP was and what's wrong with Seven seem to re-surface every few months.

Every few months tends to fit with every new 'forced' XP>7' migration.

And here is a convenient example ▼ :)

Last week she retired her worn out laptop and bought a new one with Windows 7 installed.


The only difference being how set in some ways users are.

And like most of these threads, some of the complaints are very valid , yet the end result is invariably shown that despite the complaints, the pros of Seven show that it is the better Operating System overall.
 

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ASUS P8Z77 WS
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16GB G.Skill Trident X 2666mhz
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x2 EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked SLI
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x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung
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2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black * Sony Optirac DVD
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There is almost no reason why a new PC, can't successfully simulate an old GUI.
But why would you want a computer of today, with all this power, showing us a DOS prompt once we boot? Or, better yet, a blank screen with a program icon labeled Program Manager?

Why do treat computers differently than everything else? Vehicle dhasboards, ATMs, TV guides, phones, POS stations, gas station pumps.....everything we interface with in our daily lives change and we adapt....so why is it an issue that computers follow the same pattern?
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
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Intel Core i7-2600
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Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
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12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333
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Nvidia GTX 470
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Dell UltraSharp 2209WA
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OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
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OCZ ModStream 700W
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CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
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CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
P stands for "Personal"

There is almost no reason why a new PC, can't successfully simulate an old GUI.
But why would you want a computer of today, with all this power, showing us a DOS prompt once we boot? Or, better yet, a blank screen with a program icon labeled Program Manager?

I wouldn't, but some people do ("Real" Linux users for example).

You're missing the point.
A personal computer should suit the user (or be easily configured to suit the user).

The users shouldn't constantly have to reconfigure themselves, every time some marketing nincompoop decides that the time is right for more gouging.

Have you read MS's excuses as to why they can't provide look-alike legacy GUIs?
They are complete garbage.

A modern PC should be able to run:

  • Multiple copies of XP simultaneously.
  • Hundreds of DOS instances.
Simulating a 10 year old GUI should be a complete doddle.
Especially considering that MS produced the originals.

Many people have complained about the changes (98 vs XP vs Vista vs W7).
I still see people complaining that they can't have the Windows 98 Start menu!

Linux has countless desktop managers.
In fact, the Linux forums are full of people complaining about the awful new GUIs (Unity and Gnome 3).
Mint is forking Gnome 2, because so many users hate the new GUIs.

Why do treat computers differently than everything else? Vehicle dhasboards, ATMs, TV guides, phones, POS stations, gas station pumps.....everything we interface with in our daily lives change and we adapt....so why is it an issue that computers follow the same pattern?

Almost every car has the same main dash layout (i.e. some dials in front of the driver).

Speedos have had a standard appearance for most of my life.
A dial with numbers on it and a needle to indicate the current speed.
Can you guess why?
It works.

Most car experts detest any variation such as digital readout.
Their reason is that numbers have to be read, whereas the needle position only requires a glance.

Perhaps every new model should swap the brake and accelerator pedal positions.
"User studies show that some accidents are caused by people, accidentally pushing the accelerator pedal, instead of the brake. By swapping the pedal positions, we have eliminated that possibility." ;)
 

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Although this is hardly the thread to voice this - technology although advancing in many ways has not made things any easier to operate but seems to get more complicated as time progresses and there is mainly only one casualty - the elderly who are expected to understand and remember the new changes when memory is starting to get ever more fragile. I can usually manage with all new bits and bobs but if I want to operate things my way then why stop me even if the provider prefers I do it their way. Every electrical appliance it seems is menu-driven and not always logical as to where to find the right items - cameras, hi-fi, TVs etc.

Technology - who needs it! :p

ps Think there still are a few marbles left but they might be something else.
 
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USB
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approx 10 Mbps
You're missing the point.
A personal computer should suit the user (or be easily configured to suit the user).
I think you are missing the point, to be honest. Microsoft simply cannot make a product that keeps everyone happy. No one can. If Windows 7 cost $50, and Microsoft put $100 bills in the box...people would still find something to whine and bitch about. Windows 7 is by far, the most configurable OS we've had from MS. Want the classic look? No problem.

Your viewpoint is of someone who's hiding behind a fear of change, rather than embracing it. If you look at it objectively, the main points of the UI are still there from Windows 95. You still launch programs from a button on the lower right. You still close them with an X in the upper right. It's flat out laughably to see people complain about having to adopt and adapt, because they all usually have no issues doing so, once they put their preconcieved notions aside and give it an honest shot.

Your car comments also miss some points. We can't even decide on a standard for which side of the car the gas tank should be. You know how frustrating it is to rent a car, and then stop for gas and realize you're on the wrong side...and the dashboard didn't give an indicator arrow? Some cars have digital guages for speed...no dials. That's a change. Some newer cars have HUD overlays...that aren't customizable. That's a change. Some cars have automatic wipers and headlights...some have knobs and dials that can be positioned anywhere. About the only two things that remain standard are the wheel and the turn signal placement. Everything else can vary from car to car....yet people still manage to survive.
 

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Intel Core i7-2600
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Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3
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Nvidia GTX 470
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OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS
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OCZ ModStream 700W
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CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced
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CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus
You're missing the point.
A personal computer should suit the user (or be easily configured to suit the user).
I think you are missing the point, to be honest. Microsoft simply cannot make a product that keeps everyone happy. No one can. If Windows 7 cost $50, and Microsoft put $100 bills in the box...people would still find something to whine and bitch about. Windows 7 is by far, the most configurable OS we've had from MS. Want the classic look? No problem.

Agreed.
Nobody has made a perfect product in any category.

The "classic look" isn't what most of those people are complaining about.
They are complaining about the "Start Menu".

Your viewpoint is of someone who's hiding behind a fear of change, rather than embracing it.

That's a personal attack on me (and anybody else who doesn't agree with your opinion).

Right back at you ...
Your position seems to be that any opinion that doesn't match yours, is worthless.

Do you even bother to read what has been posted? :confused:
I assume that you don't, since you are misrepresenting my stated position.
At no time did I state that W7 was rubbish, in fact W7 is my preferred OS.
These days I only open XP on "Patch Tuesday" (Wednesday for me) or if I notice a program update (e.g. Foxit Reader).
My personal gripes about W7:

  • W7 does not respect "Read-only" file attributes (XP did).
  • Windows Explorer random auto-scroll bug. According to an alleged MS representative that is actually a design feature!
That is the sum total!

If you look at it objectively, the main points of the UI are still there from Windows 95. You still launch programs from a button on the lower right. You still close them with an X in the upper right.

Agreed.

It's flat out laughably to see people complain about having to adopt and adapt, because they all usually have no issues doing so, once they put their preconcieved notions aside and give it an honest shot.

Your car comments also miss some points. We can't even decide on a standard for which side of the car the gas tank should be. You know how frustrating it is to rent a car, and then stop for gas and realize you're on the wrong side...and the dashboard didn't give an indicator arrow?

OMG, you got frustrated by a pointless change? :eek:
You must be scared of change.

You are confusing worthwhile change (improvement) and worthless change (annoyance or degeneration).
Worthwhile change:
Improved reliability, stability and security.
Worthless change:
Resource hogging eye-candy, changing names and locations of functions (because marketing thinks the GUI should look different).
Some cars have digital guages for speed...no dials. That's a change. Some newer cars have HUD overlays...that aren't customizable. That's a change.

Worthless change.
Most car experts detest any variation such as digital readout.
Their reason is that numbers have to be read, whereas the needle position only requires a glance.
Some cars have automatic wipers and headlights...

Worthwhile change (it helps the user).

some have knobs and dials that can be positioned anywhere.

Worthwhile change (easily configured user interface).

Cars are physical objects.
Once the parts for a car have been made, they are fixed in size, shape, weight, etc.
Further considerations, such as Government regulations, affect the configuration of the internal components.

GUIs are virtual objects.
The only limitations on them are coding time, imagination, money and system resources.
GUI parts be easily changed/substituted.

Almost all of the improvements in W7 could have been skinned with the XP GUI (probably even Windows 95 or Windows 98).
Note:
I am not saying that would have been an improvement.
 

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AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
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ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
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12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
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NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
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WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
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2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
We're not mind readers.

Telling us which application would be a start.

Personally, I'm just bemused at this Windows 7 sniping. The people in Redmond have really got their act together on this one.

As one who started with Windows 3.1, loved XP and choked on Vista, I find Windows 7 to be the best. Each morning I get to a working desktop within a minute of switching on, I have tweaked nothing and never will, and have got to a stage where it's going to take something pretty special to wean me off this fine operating system.

And no, I have no connection with Microsoft whatever. I'm just commenting as a satisfied user.

See my reply to gregrocker above.

apogee07

I think I found a decent filemanager It remembers some 30 recently accessed folders/files and you can create a list of bookmarks like favourites in W but without them being confounded with internet links. The dual panes is so much better than opening up two explorer panes separately
xplorer² lite: free windows explorer replacement (file manager)

apopgee07
 

My Computer

OS
W7
We're not mind readers.

Telling us which application would be a start.

Personally, I'm just bemused at this Windows 7 sniping. The people in Redmond have really got their act together on this one.

As one who started with Windows 3.1, loved XP and choked on Vista, I find Windows 7 to be the best. Each morning I get to a working desktop within a minute of switching on, I have tweaked nothing and never will, and have got to a stage where it's going to take something pretty special to wean me off this fine operating system.

And no, I have no connection with Microsoft whatever. I'm just commenting as a satisfied user.

See my reply to gregrocker above.

apogee07

I think I found a decent filemanager It remembers some 30 recently accessed folders/files and you can create a list of bookmarks like favourites in W but without them being confounded with internet links. The dual panes is so much better than opening up two explorer panes separately
xplorer² lite: free windows explorer replacement (file manager)

apopgee07

I use FreeCommander for mass file/folder renaming.

It also has various 2 pane layouts (with or without navigation trees).
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
n/a
OS
W7 Ultimate SP1, LM19.2 MATE, W10 Home 1703, W10 Pro 1703 VM, #All 64 bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II x6 1100T, 3.3 GHz
Motherboard
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 (AM3)
Memory
12GB DDR3 1333 G-Skill (4GB x 2), G-Skill (2GB x 2)
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660
Sound Card
Realtek?
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S23B350
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
WD Green 2TB (SATA), WD Green 3TB (SATA), WD Blue 4TB (SATA), WD Blue 6TB (SATA)
PSU
Cooler Master
Case
Antec GX300 Tower
Cooling
3x Antec TRICOOL 120mm Fans
Mouse
Wired Optical
Internet Speed
DSL
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Pale Moon (64 bit)
Other Info
2018-12-27 Upgraded HDDs
2015-12-10 Upgraded case, graphics card, storage
2015-08-15 Upgraded motherboard & RAM
2015-07-15 Upgraded LM17.1 to LM17.2
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