Windows 7 x64 random reboot

[Lomai]

Ah, Lomai, would you recommend buying that and spending roughly $40-50 instead of the cheaper ones? I'm having a hard time deciding what PSU to buy...

Sorry for misleading you there - I was trying to reference the modular cables that you could use in place of your current sleeves (assuming that you can relocate the sleeves from your existing PSU).
Liquidsnak has linked to some PSU's that you could buy - given your specs, don't skimp on the PSU

Regards

 

[LiquidSnak]

Here are several sleeving options:

Sleeving/Heatshrink - FrozenCPU.com *

The 1/2" sleeving will open to accomodate lots of wires. The only iffy bit would be the ATX connector. All of these will help bundle wires together Some zip ties are helpful so that the ends do not fray open.

Also available in a kit from newegg.com

Newegg.com - VIZO Technology,Cable Ties,sleeving

 

[Hirokotzu]

Alright! I will order the Antec Earthwatts 650 you recommended me and the cable binding kit. Hope it goes great, I'll post here if I need some help installing it. Never installed a PSU before.

 

[LiquidSnak]

It's a fairly friendly procedure. I have the earthwatts line, and I love it. My power bill went down ^_^

Though if you haven't ordered yet, you might consider the 750 model

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...71026&cm_re=Earthwatts-_-17-371-026-_-Product

 

[Elimercy]

hi need help,
SONY VAIO GVN-I recenty updated my lap top to Window 7 32 bit updated the BIOS and updated drivers. my lap top does not turn on when I shut it down and let it rest for a long period, it is like it gets lost in the lupe. It turns on when i power it down then power up i again, and windows starts fine. However when it about to go into sleep mode it says windows recoverd from an unexpected shutdown.... sometime it goes into a loop from power off and powering on . I spoke to a sony represetative and from remote access he made sure y drivers were updated. I have done some reading and it looks like it might be a driver issue ... i want to find out what is causing my pc to turn off while it powered on and what is stopping it from starting when i press the on button.S360

 

[LiquidSnak]

Are you shutting the lid before it completely sleeps or shuts down?

Also, you should probably make a new thread, since this it a totally separate issue.

 

[chev65]

The free versions of memtest do not support 4gigs of RAM. Hey Liquidsnake, what would be the best way to organize the clutter of cables with a PSU that doesn't come with any form of mesh covering (like my current one)? Can I take off my current mesh casing and put it on the new wires?

The free versions of Memtest do most certainly support more than 4GB of Ram. Memtest for Windows can be run in Windows and seems to find problems faster than the CD version "first link".

You would run one test for each CPU core then divide the free memory between them and input that number into each test and run them all at once.

The second test runs outside the OP system and you can test all your memory with it but it's an ISO and needs to be burned to a CD.

MemTest: RAM reliability tester for Windows

Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

 

[Hirokotzu]

Ok I ran Memtest like you said and after about 15min, I got 3 errors. Not good at all. I'm guessing I should get replacements for the RAM I got from newegg? Also btw, the stock intel i5 fan was too weak so I replaced it with a Corsair A70 Dual fan heatsink/fan and the edge of the 2nd fan (due to its LARGE size) is slightly bumping one of the RAM sticks. Is this a major problem? If so hopefully I can return it to bestbuy and exchange it for the smaller one or the water cooling one.

I really don't want to pay to ship the bad RAM back to Corsair, then wait a few days to get a replacement. Maybe I should buy a different brand of RAM? I don't mind paying some more money. I feel bad that I got a power supply already, it's worth replacing a 4year old one anyway huh? Probably more power efficient too.

 

[mjf]

The free versions of memtest do not support 4gigs of RAM. Hey Liquidsnake, what would be the best way to organize the clutter of cables with a PSU that doesn't come with any form of mesh covering (like my current one)? Can I take off my current mesh casing and put it on the new wires?

The free versions of Memtest do most certainly support more than 4GB of Ram. Memtest for Windows can be run in Windows and seems to find problems faster than the CD version "first link".

You would run one test for each CPU core then divide the free memory between them and input that number into each test and run them all at once.

The second test runs outside the OP system and you can test all your memory with it but it's an ISO and needs to be burned to a CD.

MemTest: RAM reliability tester for Windows

Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

Do you feel the inbuilt Windows memory diagnostic test isn't thorough enough?

PS: This is not a rhetorical question. The answer maybe No.

 

[Hirokotzu]

The free versions of memtest do not support 4gigs of RAM. Hey Liquidsnake, what would be the best way to organize the clutter of cables with a PSU that doesn't come with any form of mesh covering (like my current one)? Can I take off my current mesh casing and put it on the new wires?

The free versions of Memtest do most certainly support more than 4GB of Ram. Memtest for Windows can be run in Windows and seems to find problems faster than the CD version "first link".

You would run one test for each CPU core then divide the free memory between them and input that number into each test and run them all at once.

The second test runs outside the OP system and you can test all your memory with it but it's an ISO and needs to be burned to a CD.

MemTest: RAM reliability tester for Windows

Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

Do you feel the inbuilt Windows memory diagnostic test isn't thorough enough?

I just used the windows built in memory test and I got no problems there. Whats the deal, do I need new memory?

 

[Elimercy]

hey thankyou for helping....um the lid is not closed at all. th epc lid is open when this happens. are you able to tell from the minibump files what is causing the problem

 

[LiquidSnak]

How old is the RAM? If it's not very old, then get an RMA from newegg and they will replace it lickety split.

How is your CPU cooler oriented? Components rubbing together is generally not great, especially since the fan does produce minuscule vibrations that might affect that RAM after a period of time. If you take that stick of RAM out does it remedy the problem?

 

[mjf]

The free versions of Memtest do most certainly support more than 4GB of Ram. Memtest for Windows can be run in Windows and seems to find problems faster than the CD version "first link".

You would run one test for each CPU core then divide the free memory between them and input that number into each test and run them all at once.

The second test runs outside the OP system and you can test all your memory with it but it's an ISO and needs to be burned to a CD.

MemTest: RAM reliability tester for Windows

Memtest86+ - Advanced Memory Diagnostic Tool

Do you feel the inbuilt Windows memory diagnostic test isn't thorough enough?

I just used the windows built in memory test and I got no problems there. Whats the deal, do I need new memory?

OP,
I have 4GB RAM and Windows memory test and Memtest86+ (V4.10)
work ok for me. Suggest you try Memtest86+ and if that's not reporting errors I'd be looking elsewhere for the cause of the problem.

 

[Hirokotzu]

Alright, I installed the PSU with the troubles it caused ( the hard drive SATA port plastic piece came off, but I stuck it into the SATA cable and it slid right in, thank god) and it still crashes during windows update. I don't regret buying the PSU though, because it will probably save me a lot on the energy bill compared to my HUGE bulky old one. The fans bigger too!

Anyway I'm assuming its the memory, so I ordered a new batch of GSKILL DDR3 1600 dual channel 4gigs RAM. I also issued a RMA for the current Patriot RAM I have now, so I'll get a refund for that. Anyway I hope its not a motherboard problem, and its just a memory problem. We'll find out when the new memory comes. I'll run a memtest and try updating windows then.

 

[Hirokotzu]

Ok I need some serious help. I made a memtest86 + disc and ran it for 4 hours with both sticks of ram in it. No errors at all. I noticed in Bios, right before the test, that the timing wasn't right so I set it to the memorys timing recommendations. The problem is, windows still restarts during windows updates. If it's not the RAM or PSU, what is it? Windows??? Do I really have to install windows from scratch? If so, is it possible to copy all my important programs and files to my 500gb external hard drive? How would I do that. I also issued a memory exchange from newegg but the memory didnt fail memtest, should I keep it and cancel the order or switch it out??

 

[chev65]

Ok I ran Memtest like you said and after about 15min, I got 3 errors. Not good at all. I'm guessing I should get replacements for the RAM I got from newegg? Also btw, the stock intel i5 fan was too weak so I replaced it with a Corsair A70 Dual fan heatsink/fan and the edge of the 2nd fan (due to its LARGE size) is slightly bumping one of the RAM sticks. Is this a major problem? If so hopefully I can return it to bestbuy and exchange it for the smaller one or the water cooling one.

I really don't want to pay to ship the bad RAM back to Corsair, then wait a few days to get a replacement. Maybe I should buy a different brand of RAM? I don't mind paying some more money. I feel bad that I got a power supply already, it's worth replacing a 4year old one anyway huh? Probably more power efficient too.

The part in bold is a problem. The only way the stock fan is too small would be because either the pins for the heat sink aren't installed correctly or the TIM "thermal interface material" was not applied properly which would result in your CPU overheating at which point the system would shut down.

You really need to take a good luck at the CPU and heat sink then reapply the TIM using the stock fan which should be totally fine for a stock clocked CPU. Make double extra sure that the pins are installed correctly as they can be a real pain to get right.

The other fan rubbing on the memory sticks can't be good either and probably was enough to throw off your memtest results.

 

[Hirokotzu]

I took one of the fans that was touching the RAM off. It works fine in that respect now. The stock intel fan is TERRIBLE and was making the computer run far too hot. The CPU temp. is perfect around 34c idle now. and 48 c stress. I'm positive its not a CPU overheating issue. It restarts every microsoft update.

 

[Hirokotzu]

Bump, they moved my other thread to Windows Updates.. =/