Windows Activation Technologies Update for Windows 7.

[foadywm]

correct, the program itself gets patched with new crack methods. then it scans without need for Internet access. the scan itself is internal and does not need to connect to the net. when it says you are not valid, you can still use the machine normally you just cant update.

semantics do not cut it with me. it still goes online every 90 days to update itself. rather it has an online scanner or an offline scanner scanning to see if your copy of windows is legal it is still phoning home.

 

[cloud8521]

correct, the program itself gets patched with new crack methods. then it scans without need for Internet access. the scan itself is internal and does not need to connect to the net. when it says you are not valid, you can still use the machine normally you just cant update.

semantics do not cut it with me. it still goes online every 90 days to update itself. rather it has an online scanner or an offline scanner scanning to see if your copy of windows is legal it is still phoning home.

and the problem with that is?

 

[Frostmourne]

Agreed, I don't care what protection tech I install as long as:

• It's stable
• It doesn't break Windows
• It doesn't break other programs
• It can be removed (but probably not)

 

[omegatron]

semantics do not cut it with me. it still goes online every 90 days to update itself. rather it has an online scanner or an offline scanner scanning to see if your copy of windows is legal it is still phoning home.

and the problem with that is?

Hi there
I think you might have missed the point here.

It's NOT activating windows - nobody really has an issue with that anymore - it's the application wanting to connect periodically to the Internet to continue to do all sorts of things -- and what if you CAN'T connect to the Internet for an extended period -- does Windows finally stop working or keep sending you "Nag reminders".

Once I've ACTIVATED windows legally --that's it. I don't want or NEED applications having to "randomly" connect to the Internet especially at times when losing the application might be totally inconvenient.

What if you have a dedicated SECURE machine that you NEVER want to connect to the Internet after initial activation?

Cheers
jimbo

Another question would be what if you have a internal secured network that cannot connect to the net for security reasons?

 

[cloud8521]

semantics do not cut it with me. it still goes online every 90 days to update itself. rather it has an online scanner or an offline scanner scanning to see if your copy of windows is legal it is still phoning home.

and the problem with that is?

Hi there
I think you might have missed the point here.

It's NOT activating windows - nobody really has an issue with that anymore - it's the application wanting to connect periodically to the Internet to continue to do all sorts of things -- and what if you CAN'T connect to the Internet for an extended period -- does Windows finally stop working or keep sending you "Nag reminders".

Once I've ACTIVATED windows legally --that's it. I don't want or NEED applications having to "randomly" connect to the Internet especially at times when losing the application might be totally inconvenient.

What if you have a dedicated SECURE machine that you NEVER want to connect to the Internet after initial activation?

Cheers
jimbo

Another question would be what if you have a internal secured network that cannot connect to the net for security reasons?

I know of a couple of local companies that were talking about disconnecting their networks in response to...

Corporations, agencies infiltrated by `botnet' - Yahoo! News

it will only connect if it can. the scan is done internally, and if it can it will connect to get updated crack methods. of course i cant say that for sure since its new.

 

[Colonel Travis]

missing the point. i bought 7 home premium when it came out, so i am not worried about it being legal or not. the real issue is something phoning home every x amount of days to check your os or software. basically treating you as guilty until proven innocent.

this argument makes no sense. But let's say you are guilty - then don't install it. What if you're legit? Same answer, if you're that worked up about it. I'm not saying it's wrong to be concerned. I see a legit fear of legit owners possibly being downgraded because of some MS fubar, generally comparable to the old WGA fubar with XP. What are the chances every genuine 7 owner on the planet never has a problem with this incessant validation for as long as they use the OS? My guess is well above 0%.

Otherwise, I do not understand why the check (in and of itself) warrants a freak out. Again, I'm talking about just the check and not the fubars that may or may not result from it. You don't have to pull out your wallet and show your papers, you don't have to answer a knock on the door, you don't have to stop your car at a checkpoint, you don't have to do @#$%! anything except eat your cheese doodles and play COD.

But it's my software.

No. Someone made it and you bought a license to use it. You don't own 7. You don't have a God-given unalienable right to use it even after you paid for the license. You voluntary gave your money to someone and said - let me use that under your terms. If those terms are unacceptable, find another OS.

OK it's free pretzel day at Auntie Annie's and there are only a few hours left, so I've gotta take a shower and go. I would advise anyone who lives near an Auntie Annie's to do the same.

 

[omegatron]

I installed it on my laptop.

http://download.microsoft.com/downl...8430-A67417AA88CD/WindowsActivationUpdate.exe

I think...

Is it normal for the screen to flicker a couple of times when you hit the close button?

If not...

How do you tell if it installed correctly?

More importantly, How do you tell if it installed at all?

 

[omegatron]

BTW: It's not showing up on my updates list. Which is why I ask if there is another way to tell if it is installed...

 

[ccya965041]

If you unsure the update is it in your computer,
you could open
C:\Windows\System32\slui.exe

This tool would tell your Activation Status,
the windows called Windows Activation

 

[omegatron]

If you unsure the update is it in your computer,
you could open
C:\Windows\System32\slui.exe

This tool would tell your Activation Status,
the windows called Windows Activation

It just tells me I'm activated... same as my main computer for which I haven't installed the update to.

There has to be somewhere I can look that will tell me that it's the new version and not what came with the OS. Right?

 

[jimbo45]

Hi there
I still think a lot of people have missed THREE very salient points.

1) You aren't always in a position to be able to connect to the internet -- often for quite extended periods.

2) SECURE networks often do not want machines to (or even ensure that they can't) connect to ANY external network - Internet or otherwise.

3) You might not want to have an Internet connected machine for all sorts of reasons at home for instance -- especially say with young children when you are away from home --there's no reason why say a young 5 or 6 year old can't use a computer for their homework like learning simple spreadsheets etc when you are away -- but I'd certainly like to be around when they use the Internet.

As I've said NOBODY really has problems with LEGITIMATE activation and MS as well as other corporations are entitled to protect "Their Intellectual Property" but it's the "Phoning Home" bit - especially at random intervals that I think is a STEP TOO FAR.


MS could easily block pirated copies of Windows when people attempt to do a Windows upgrade or come to an arrangement with somebody say like Google - when a search is requested via Windows then Google could easily check whether Windows was valid and if not just re-direct to MS who could block the product.

Nearly everybody who uses the Internet uses Google probably at least once a day.

Cheers
jimbo

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[manhunter2826]

I installed it on my laptop.

http://download.microsoft.com/downl...8430-A67417AA88CD/WindowsActivationUpdate.exe

I think...

Is it normal for the screen to flicker a couple of times when you hit the close button?

If not...

How do you tell if it installed correctly?

More importantly, How do you tell if it installed at all?

Wow! :shocked: that was brave!

 

[FZ21Z]

BTW: It's not showing up on my updates list. Which is why I ask if there is another way to tell if it is installed...

The online tool shows up in my Firefox plugins page...

 

[FZ21Z]

Hi there
1) You aren't always in a position to be able to connect to the internet -- often for quite extended periods.

90 days is 3 months, and I don't think I've ever gone 3 days without connecting to the net.

2) SECURE networks often do not want machines to (or even ensure that they can't) connect to ANY external network - Internet or otherwise.

So how would you go about updating the system?

3) You might not want to have an Internet connected machine for all sorts of reasons at home for instance

You might not need it connected at all times, but again, how would you update the system?

but it's the "Phoning Home" bit - especially at random intervals that I think is a STEP TOO FAR.

It's all about perspective I guess, as it's easy to put emphasis on it "phoning home" as being something sinister, when all it will do is download the latest definitions and scan the system, which took less than a minute using the online the tool.

 

[omegatron]

I installed it on my laptop.

http://download.microsoft.com/downl...8430-A67417AA88CD/WindowsActivationUpdate.exe

I think...

Is it normal for the screen to flicker a couple of times when you hit the close button?

If not...

How do you tell if it installed correctly?

More importantly, How do you tell if it installed at all?

Wow! :shocked: that was brave!

Wanted to see exactly what this update was going to do.... and what it did is exactly what I'm concerned about.

I am concerned by the fact that my screen turned off-on-off-on when I closed the installer.

I am also concerned by the fact that I cannot tell if it installed, or installed correctly.

My experiment with this update is over. I'm going to reinstall my laptop and not mess with this update.

 

[dmex]

This update will be included with SP1 and check your activation status every 90 days after its installation indefinitely.

 

[omegatron]

This update will be included with SP1 and check your activation status every 90 days after its installation indefinitely.

Is there anyway to tell if it is installed already?

 

[dmex]

Update for Windows Activation Technologies

 

[omegatron]

supposedly it was to be released on or after the 17th. patch tuesday was the 16th, and there have been no updates after the 16th. so i believe it is safe to say no one who didn't go out and deliberately download it received it. as for know if it is installed you can get a list of all patches / hot fixes for 7 from within 7 or there are third party apps for this.

Mine flickered at the end of the update then did nothing. It also doesn't show up on my list of hot fixes/patches.

Tried to install it again with no noticeable changes. Would be nice if M$ at least provided a place you could check for troubleshooting purposes.

 

[omegatron]

Update for Windows Activation Technologies

Nothing there to help with troubleshooting...

Starting to wonder if there is a problem with the update... especially since it hasn't been offered via automatic updates...