Windows Live Mail 2012 will not connect to Outlook.com

[Brds7t7]

I'd use Outlook if it was free or very low cost and going to continue with support.
I've been using
WLM Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3555.0308)
Copyright © 2010 Microsoft Corporation
and it has met my needs. If WLM 2012 is going south then I guess so will WLM 2011.

Some people above are questioning the future support for Thunderbird!
So what client should you use and how do you migrate from WLM???

Well, if they are getting rid of POP/IMAP then I'm pretty much stuck with access through the browser only, which will be a pain as I have more than one account. Work, personal, mailing and 2 Gmail accounts which are all accessed using WLM 2012. Apparently we'll still be able to access Gmail though, but I might as well just use my browser if I can no longer use WLM to access my hotmail.

 

[FerchogtX]

Might give Thunderbird a whirl. I have Office 2007 but I've never been that keen on Outlook. WLM was a lighter alternative.
It hasn't been updated for a long time so guess it's retirement was on the cards.
Not interested in any subscription based software though.

I got rid of WLM 2012 a while ago because some of my MS email accounts had been converted, and some hadn't been converted.
I switched to Mozilla Thunderbird portable available at
Portable App Directory | PortableApps.com - Portable software for USB, portable and cloud drives
Then you could test it without installing the program.

It's more complicated configuring than WLM, but it works well for me, and i like it better than WLM.

It's not that complicated, even more, you can set it up like the mail app (So it doesn't download the full contents, instead, everything is online, ala Outlook.com cell app) Yes... SMTP servers are still frustrating (gmail and yahoo are way faster and respond better), but it's way better once you get used to it.

I switched to thunderbird about a month and half ago, I don't regret it. I was fed up with all the sluggishness and slowness of the Outlook.com web interface (It's slow in every browser and system, it's just... uuuuuuuggghhh!!).

Just for entertaining, I also replaced the .... arg... stupid cellphone app too with Bluemail... I was just tired of Microsoft not adding support for extenal SD cards (YOu cannot attach anything from a external SD card, because the app can't NEVER access to that...) And Bluemail also supports another services, like Gmail and yahoo, so I just use one app for everything. Quite convenient

 

[FerchogtX]

Well, if they are getting rid of POP/IMAP then I'm pretty much stuck with access through the browser only, which will be a pain as I have more than one account. Work, personal, mailing and 2 Gmail accounts which are all accessed using WLM 2012. Apparently we'll still be able to access Gmail though, but I might as well just use my browser if I can no longer use WLM to access my hotmail.

Wait... WHAT?
No...
NO!

That's a nightmare! They cannot get rid of IMAP access... Please God no! The web interface is slow as hell, it's a pain to check stuff and accounts one by one!

Probably they will just get rid of POP3, getting rid of IMAP will break not only Thunderbird, but also many more email clients, not to mention mobile apps that are good alternatives to that crappy official one.

If they try to get rid of IMAP, that means they are trying to force people into their official apps, or the web interface, both plagged of adds... And that IS A DIRTY move, as mud...

Why M$, why are you ruining everything?

EDIT:

Aparently, M$ will not drop support for POP/IMAP, just that special Windows Live/Outlook Syncronization... a protocol only used for the Windows Live Mail Application.

Will this change affect Thunderbird? ? mozillaZine Forums
Windows Live Mail 2012 end of Outlook support - gHacks Tech News

My God, I was scared! Good news everyone, Jump on the Thunderbird Bandwagon!

 

[Brds7t7]

Well, if they are getting rid of POP/IMAP then I'm pretty much stuck with access through the browser only, which will be a pain as I have more than one account. Work, personal, mailing and 2 Gmail accounts which are all accessed using WLM 2012. Apparently we'll still be able to access Gmail though, but I might as well just use my browser if I can no longer use WLM to access my hotmail.

Wait... WHAT?
No...
NO!

That's a nightmare! They cannot get rid of IMAP access... Please God no! The web interface is slow as hell, it's a pain to check stuff and accounts one by one!

Probably they will just get rid of POP3, getting rid of IMAP will break not only Thunderbird, but also many more email clients, not to mention mobile apps that are good alternatives to that crappy official one.

If they try to get rid of IMAP, that means they are trying to force people into their official apps, or the web interface, both plagged of adds... And that IS A DIRTY move, as mud...

Why M$, why are you ruining everything?

EDIT:

Aparently, M$ will not drop support for POP/IMAP, just that special Windows Live/Outlook Syncronization... a protocol only used for the Windows Live Mail Application.

Will this change affect Thunderbird? ? mozillaZine Forums

My God, I was scared! Good news everyone, Jump on the Thunderbird Bandwagon!

That's good to know!

Well, if they aren't dropping IMAP/POP then we should be able to carry on using WLM 2012, it will just need all the accounts reconfigured to work.

 

[FerchogtX]

That's good to know!

Well, if they aren't dropping IMAP/POP then we should be able to carry on using WLM 2012, it will just need all the accounts reconfigured to work.

Fortunately, the second link includes instructions to change that setting in WLM 2012, you just change from Live Sync to IMAP or POP, that does the trick according to them.

So yeah, those are WONDERFUL news!!!

 

[FerchogtX]

I swear this is the last one XD

For the people setting up their IMAP accounts in TB, if you feel syncronization is slow, a thing that worked for me is:

This will, instead of download all mails from your account, just retrive information headers and content directly from the server. You will also save a lot of space (my stuff was taking about 5 GB in my HDD... ouch!, now it hardly takes 40 MB, easy to backup). This also speesdup reading and working with your emails and applies with Outlook.com, Gmail and Yahoo accounts, I ignore if other supported servers work too as I don't have accounts on any other server.

 

[Callender]

I swear this is the last one XD

For the people setting up their IMAP accounts in TB, if you feel syncronization is slow, a thing that worked for me is:

This will, instead of download all mails from your account, just retrive information headers and content directly from the server. You will also save a lot of space (my stuff was taking about 5 GB in my HDD... ouch!, now it hardly takes 40 MB, easy to backup). This also speesdup reading and working with your emails and applies with Outlook.com, Gmail and Yahoo accounts, I ignore if other supported servers work too as I don't have accounts on any other server.

You might like this old forum post:

http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers...-links-dont-work-post2854753.html#post2854753

 

[FerchogtX]

Fantastic!
That's a good thing to keep!

Thanks for that post

 

[Brds7t7]

Looks like they'll definitely be continuing to support POP/IMAP.
I just setup a new test account and got the new outlook layout (all my previous ones are still on the old layout). So there is no reason we will have to stop using WLM 2012, it will just be a case of removing and re-adding the accounts with IMAP or POP whichever you prefer.

You might like this old forum post:

http://www.sevenforums.com/browsers...-links-dont-work-post2854753.html#post2854753

Some nice info there Callender!

 

[FerchogtX]

Yep, WLM 2012 will still work with Outlook, Brds7t7.

However, all users or this app, be warned, if you use IMAP or POP, automatic contact and callendar syncronization will not work as it used to be. Cannot be helped since M$ tied those to email sync with their private protocol. But at least, you can still use WLM to check your mails, which is a big win over the bloated Outlook.com web interface.

 

[Brds7t7]

Yep, WLM 2012 will still work with Outlook, Brds7t7.

However, all users or this app, be warned, if you use IMAP or POP, automatic contact and callendar syncronization will not work as it used to be. Cannot be helped since M$ tied those to email sync with their private protocol. But at least, you can still use WLM to check your mails, which is a big win over the bloated Outlook.com web interface.

Agreed! Can't say I've ever used WLM for my Calendar or contacts anyway as I use my Gmail for that. I just like to have all my email accounts consolidated into one program and I find WLM 2012 the easiest to use.

 

[ThrashZone]

Calender is the only thing I like about hotmail/ outlook.com
I'm surprised so many don't have a holiday calender option

 

[mjf]

A key issue for me is retaining a specific email address eg. *@hotmail.com. I have many interactions that use my hotmail address. I want to keep the email address above all. You also want an email client/ mail user agent that works usefully and reliably. I'm a novice here but I don't know if I could alias my hotmail address to say gmail or whatever else(I doubt it). Any opinions on this?

BTW I have an email account with a big ISP here and the email service is slow beyond belief plus you want to be able to change your ISP.

 

[strollin]

Your hotmail email address isn't going to change. I've had my hotmail address since 1998 and expect to continue using it well into the forseeable future.

 

[Brds7t7]

Your hotmail email address isn't going to change. I've had my hotmail address since 1998 and expect to continue using it well into the forseeable future.

We were just wondering if WLM 2012 would still work, according to MS it wouldn't, but they neglected to tell us that we just needed to change some settings. Anyway, no problems now.

Just as a heads up guys, I had to change some of the settings as my Junk, Sent, Drafts and Deleted folders weren't syncing properly and the all the folders got duplicated.
Went into IMAP settings and changed "Sent Items" to just "Sent", "Deleted Items" to just "Deleted" and "Junk Email" to just "Junk" and all working okay now.

 

[itconcerned]

Hi,

Let me introduce myself shortly:

As former MCC on Security and Privacy matters at MS Answers, I found 7 Forums as trusty reference, sometimes I have directed people here in the recent past. This is my first comment here.

Well, I have found this site and used IMAP for WLM2012 instructions at About.com with success and I would like to share it with you here at Seven:

http://email.about.com/od/livemaildesktoptips/fl/How-to-Access-Outlook-Mail-Outlookcom-Hotmail-in-Windows-Live-Mail.htm

Best Regards

 

[truckinguy]

Hi,

Let me introduce myself shortly:

As former MCC on Security and Privacy matters at MS Answers, I found 7 Forums as trusty reference, sometimes I have directed people here in the recent past. This is my first comment here.

Well, I have found this site and used IMAP for WLM2012 instructions at About.com with success and I would like to share it with you here at Seven:

http://email.about.com/od/livemaildesktoptips/fl/How-to-Access-Outlook-Mail-Outlookcom-Hotmail-in-Windows-Live-Mail.htm

Best Regards

I read the article. I have a question... What does "With IMAP access to Outlook Mail, you will not get your contacts and calendars synchronized." mean?? Then how would I access my contacts to send an email ? or save new ones?

 

[itconcerned]

“I read the article. I have a question... What does "With IMAP access to Outlook Mail, you will not get your contacts and calendars synchronized." mean?? Then how would I access my contacts to send an email ? or save new ones?”

Hi, welcome.

I suggest you to go to the below pointed site for this regarding WLM 2012, because this is a new situation that we have to deal as Exchange ActiveSync discontinues.

Heinz Tschabitscher - Guide Biography - About Email - Getting in Touch

Thanks and Regards

itconcerned

 

[gobbetto]

Starting form today I cannot connect to hotmail using WLM 2012.
It keeps on saying that the password is wrong and I need to enter it; over and over.
I have it set to use POP server and I check via internet and the online internet mail works.

Is this the end for it or it is just something it will be fix?

 

[truckinguy]

Starting form today I cannot connect to hotmail using WLM 2012.
It keeps on saying that the password is wrong and I need to enter it; over and over.
I have it set to use POP server and I check via internet and the online internet mail works.

Is this the end for it or it is just something it will be fix?

You can still use it but you have to follow directions at this link Outlook Mail, Outlook.com, Hotmail in Windows Live Mail

Read down to "Access Outlook Mail, Outlook.com, Hotmail in Windows Live Mail" and follow the directions shown there.