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[Vonda]

Hi thanks,
This where you get into trouble Vonda,
One where do you download most of these types of programs,
Most download sites add pup's or potently unwanted programs to their downloads,
I really feel these types of encrypting utilities are unneeded,

At minimum make System images before doing them so the potential damage is easier to undo,

Cheers.

I didn't see a post from Brink but thanks Brink for any input

Brinks post was included in post 82.
I downloaded the key scrambler on advice of Bill Rankin from PC-Pitstop.
I am going to get an external HD and attempt to make a System image, is that the same as cloning?

 

[Slartybart]

Ok Vonda, no sweat on the eBay toolbar.

I don't see an AntiVirus (AV) Program on your P&F list.
Please download a real-time AV program to protect your system.

Real time protection (use only one)

• avast! be free Antivirus
  
  
• AVG | Free
  
  
• Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE)
  
  :warn: When installing be alert to untick all checkboxes that are cross marketing and not part of the application. These are mostly toolbars or the Chrome browser. Read the dialog boxes during and after the install and look for checkboxes - remove the tick from anything that isn't part of the AV application.
  
  Also, do not accept the offer of a free trial, you want to install the FREE version.

 

[UsernameIssues]

Bob Rankin:
HOWTO: Detect and Defeat Keyloggers

:::back to lurking:::

 

[ThrashZone]

Bob Rankin:
HOWTO: Detect and Defeat Keyloggers

:::back to lurking:::

Notes from the site say SAS and mabm have these features ?
Probably exclusive to the Pro versions though ?

 

[Slartybart]

I read what Username posted and wonder if Keylogger is what you really want - it only protects keystrokes in a web broswer. Zemana AntiLogger Free on Bob Rankin's page might serve you better if you want a keylogger protection app.
That being said, I'm not certain of any value added with these apps if you have good Security software and practice safe-surfing. Although a bit technocal here's a good guide from CERT
Securing Your Web Browser | US-CERT

Please make sure that windows firewall is enabled and running
Zonealarm was uninstalled and it's a good idea to make sure that WinFirewall was turned on
Control Panel\All Control Panel Items\Action Center > Security bar
Network firewall should be ON

 

[Slartybart]

Bob Rankin:
HOWTO: Detect and Defeat Keyloggers

:::back to lurking:::

Notes from the site say SAS and mabm have these features ?
Probably exclusive to the Pro versions though ?

They have the ability to detect keyloggers.

I think I've caught up with what I saw - The AV app and Winfirewall.
back to the shadows again!

 

[Vonda]

Ok Vonda, no sweat on the eBay toolbar.

I don't see an AntiVirus (AV) Program on your P&F list.
Please download a real-time AV program to protect your system.


Real time protection (use only one)

• avast! be free Antivirus
  
  
• AVG | Free
  
  
• Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE)
  
  :warn: When installing be alert to untick all checkboxes that are cross marketing and not part of the application. These are mostly toolbars or the Chrome browser. Read the dialog boxes during and after the install and look for checkboxes - remove the tick from anything that isn't part of the AV application.
  
  Also, do not accept the offer of a free trial, you want to install the FREE version.

yes, when I tried to update the adobe flash, it gave no option to uncheck the Google Chrome and tool bar. I did delete those after the install of flash player. I do have the Microsoft Security essentials. see pic.

 

[ThrashZone]

Ultimately I believe one of the other two security suites had an issue with key scrambler and blocked you from entering anything in the url address bar,
This is when ie crashed or stopped working immediately,
But if everything is well in a day or so please setup imaging with Marcum free or the paid for version,
As far as are images the same a cloning ?
The term suggests so ?
Cheers.

 

[Britton30]

Image is a highly compressed snapshot of the OS and all setting, programs, etc. Several images could be stored on external media. An image must be restored to another drive to function.

A clone is an exact copy of a drive on another drive, it occupies that whole drive. A clone can be physically swapped and is ready to boot.

 

[Slartybart]

Ok, thanks again Vonda. The F&P img in post 99 must have clipped MSE off.

Flash puts it's trick question on the front end of the install, at leaset it does when you install from Adobe - Install Adobe Flash Player

The offer is square in the middle and it's even labled Optional Offer. You did the smart thing, you noticed it (yes!) and uninstalled it (YES!)

Many software pkgs do this, so keep alert when ever you donwload/install software.

I'm out

Bill
.

 

[Vonda]

Maybe note worthy: Last night I did a windows update and right after the restart IE had the same problem. I deleted one of the updates and it was back working again. Reading that the key scrambler might have been the culprit before, I removed that program as well. I am now thinking that despite the scrambler worked well before, it may have been a previous window update that started the problem. Note, the first time I installed the key scrambler was at least a year ago and I have un-installed and re-installed several times to see if it was the cause of previous problems.
I'll now wait and see how my PC behaves before I mark this topic as solved. Thanks again.
Vonda

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
You should adjust your windows updates setting so only Important updates are either loaded or just so they are separated a bit better,
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2797-windows-update-settings-change.html
Uncheck the box to Give you recommended updates the same as Important ones,
I would guess the update was kb2925418 or kb2929437 which I'm also hoping this is not the update you rolled back on or uninstalled ?
I personally only load Important updates,
I always review Recommended and Optional updates to see what exactly they are,
Most do not apply to my needs or usage,
I currently have 20 Optional and recommended updates being offered,

View attachment 314940

 

[Vonda]

Yes, I have it set to manually install updates. This morning (after my last post and deleting the key scrambler) I downloaded three important updates. kb 2929437, kb 2936068 and kb 2952664. Now IE stops working when I go to view a youtube video and firefox stops working as soon I click on the icon.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Yes, I have it set to manually install updates. This morning (after my last post and deleting the key scrambler) I downloaded three important updates. kb 2929437, kb 2936068 and kb 2952664. Now IE stops working when I go to view a youtube video and firefox stops working as soon I click on the icon.

Well just restore to before the updates Vonda and Hide those updates you can make a note of them and try them later if you want.

 

[ThrashZone]

This one is from a hotfix which if you used any hotfixes you can mostly uninstall them,
I personally don't show that update = confirmed no existence of this update or hotfix which you would have to manually go and download this update it would not show up in the update system as far as I know,
MS14-018: Description of the security update for Internet Explorer: April 8, 2014

kb 2952664 according to my list this is a Optional/ recommended update not a Important update,
Safe to Uninstall it.

 

[Vonda]

These were the up dates in question:
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 11 for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2929437)
Download size: 45.0 MB
Update type: Important
Security Update for Internet Explorer 11 for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2909210)
Download size: 450 KB
Update type: Important
Update for Windows 7 for x64-based Systems (KB2952664)
Download size: 2.4 MB
Update type: Recommended
I restored back to when they were installed and at this time both IE and Firefox works now. I only have the extra browser in case I have problems with IE. If there is a way to load an other browser from a USB I could delete the firefox (less problems?) would not be better to revert to IE 10?

 

[ThrashZone]

Here's something interesting about KB2909210,

kb2909210 for my pc cannot be updated, can someone tell me why - Microsoft Community
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...-someone/248b0ea7-4d95-4abd-be3a-5e490fd2dbd2
Never mind that one

 

[ThrashZone]

That particular update is for x-p apparently not sure why your getting it ?
I do not see me ever getting it possibly because I'm on win-7
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=41833

 

[Slartybart]

MS14-011: Description of the security update for Visual Basic Scripting Edition (VBScript) 5.8: February 11, 2014

VBScript 5.8 is installed by the following:
•Internet Explorer 8
•Internet Explorer 9.0
•Internet Explorer 10.0
•Internet Explorer 11.0
•Windows 7 (x86-based and x64-based)
•Windows Server 2008 R2 (x64-based and Itanium-based)
•Windows 8 (x86-based and x64-based)
•Windows RT
•Windows 2012 (x64-based)
•Windows 8.1 (x86-based and x64-based)
•Windows RT 8.1
•Windows 2012 R2 (x64-based)

.....
To determine the version of VBScript that is installed on the computer, follow these steps:1.Open Windows Explorer.
2.Locate the following directory:
%systemroot% \System32

3.Right-click the Vbscript.dll file, and then click Properties.
4.Click the Details tab to view the contents of the File Version field. For example, the file version may be 5.8.6001.18702.

https://technet.microsoft.com/library/security/ms14-011

So it's not for just XP anymore - lol.

 

[ThrashZone]

I see it now,
That was received 3/17/14 on my end,
I requested a review and possible splitting into a new question in the windows update section,
On Vonda's post 113 and 116,
Noel's world
Cheers.