Long Boot Time after shutdown

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Would you want to consider a clean reinstall without any of the HP bloatware or useless factory utilities which have better versions in Win7? This will often give you better performance than today's new computers.

If so here are some tips: http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/125874-re-install-windows-7-a.html#post1086729

You can make a backup of your current install to reimage it if necessary, or run Factory Recovery.

You probably won't want to tell HP about it since manufacturers will not support clean installs due to pressure from their bloatware sponsors.
 
gregrocker said:
Would you want to consider a clean reinstall without any of the HP bloatware or useless factory utilities which have better versions in Win7? This will often give you better performance than today's new computers.

If so here are some tips: http://www.sevenforums.com/installation-setup/125874-re-install-windows-7-a.html#post1086729

You can make a backup of your current install to reimage it if necessary, or run Factory Recovery.

You probably won't want to tell HP about it since manufacturers will not support clean installs due to pressure from their bloatware sponsors.
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rather not void my warranty - will try Revo and attempt bloatware uninstall - is there a way to get a lsit of bloatware that comes with the PC? CQ5600Y
 
It does not void your warranty to clean reinstall. Tech support may decline to support the Clean Reinstall which is why I told you not to tell them if you need other support. You can at any time run Factory Recovery from partition or disk, or reimage from a Win7 backup image taken now, to send in the computer if need be.

You should decide what you don't want on the computer, and uninstall it over time.

Clean up Factory Bloatware
 
gregrocker said:
It does not void your warranty to clean reinstall. Tech support may decline to support the Clean Reinstall which is why I told you not to tell them if you need other support. You can at any time run Factory Recovery from partition or disk, or reimage from a Win7 backup image taken now, to send in the computer if need be.

You should decide what you don't want on the computer, and uninstall it over time.

Clean up Factory Bloatware
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Thanks. I'll look into slowly removing bloatware, but I have a successful morning with a 38 second boot and not 15 minutes!

The only thing in startup is Avast. Disabled are Adobe, MS Office, and hpsysdrv.
I assume Adobe and MS Office are fine to enable, but what's the point, do they just get initialized? Also, how can I remove them from even showing in msconfig startup altogether?

For culprits, this may leave HP Odomoter(hpsysdrv), and of course the Canon MP495 Wireless Printer. Or, it could have been all the troubleshooting steps I performed.

I'll see what happens tomorrow morning, and then install the printer? Anything else to check since HP support guessed that it might have been the printer as well?
 
hpsysdrv is a driver used to troubleshoot HP System Recovery and not needed to startup.

To remove items from msconfig>Startup list (after googling to learn what they are) uncheck them as options int he actual program's Preferences which are sometimes hidden or disguised.

How much of the printer you decide to leave depends on whether you want scanning from desktop. For just printing you don't need any services or drivers running at startup - the others monitor ink levels, updates, etc. I'd just plug n play to see if it gives you enough functionality. There is even a rudimentary scanner in the Devices & Printers>Printer rightclick context menu.

There is a promising new startup manager named Soluto which presents a map of everything as it starts up, including System Files. It shows you what you can Delay or Pause (turn off) and makes recommendations. I'd use it as a one-off resource or participate in their interactive beta to help them take this all the way like some of us did with CCleaner.
 
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gregrocker said:
hpsysdrv is a driver used to troubleshoot HP System Recovery and not needed to startup.

To remove items from msconfig>Startup list (after googling to learn what they are) uncheck them as options int he actual program's Preferences which are sometimes hidden or disguised.

How much of the printer you decide to leave depends on whether you want scanning from desktop. For just printing you don't need any services or drivers running at startup - the others monitor ink levels, updates, etc. I'd just plug n play to see if it gives you enough functionality. There is even a rudimentary scanner in the Devices & Printers>Printer rightclick context menu.

There is a promising new startup manager named Soluto which presents a map of everything as it starts up, including System Files. It shows you what you can Delay or Pause (turn off) and makes recommendations. But be aware that if you Delay a startup with it and then turn it off or uninstall Soluto to avoid the 14 seconds it adds to boot time doing its analysis, some Delayed services may fail to start until turned back on. So I'd use it as a one-off resource or participate in their interactive beta to help them take this all the way like some of us did with CCleaner.
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I've installed Soluto - will install printer tomorrow, and see if that impacts the following morning - I do want to use its wireless capabilities and scanning, not sure what else I can do other than return it for an HP printer, if it is impacting my boot that dramatically - or maybe turning on the printer prior to boot will help.
 
Set a restore point prior to installing Printer, then install it's full software package.

Later go through the listings it adds in msconfig>Startup to edit out the ones via Google not needed to run functions you need on stand-by, e.g. Updater, ink level sales app, etc.

Soluto may be able to help, and will appreciate your feedback to add to the printer's recommendations for them.
 
gregrocker said:
Set a restore point prior to installing Printer, then install it's full software package.

Later go through the listings it adds in msconfig>Startup to edit out the ones via Google not needed to run functions you need on stand-by, e.g. Updater, ink level sales app, etc.

Soluto may be able to help, and will appreciate your feedback to add to the printer's recommendations for them.
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I've delayed Adobe ARM via Soluto and it disappeared from Msconfig - Startup, as I suppose is expected; however, I do not see Adobe in Services - I would assume it would be there showing Automatic - Delayed...
 
airahcaz said:
gregrocker said:
Set a restore point prior to installing Printer, then install it's full software package.

Later go through the listings it adds in msconfig>Startup to edit out the ones via Google not needed to run functions you need on stand-by, e.g. Updater, ink level sales app, etc.

Soluto may be able to help, and will appreciate your feedback to add to the printer's recommendations for them.
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I've delayed Adobe ARM via Soluto and it disappeared from Msconfig - Startup, as I suppose is expected; however, I do not see Adobe in Services - I would assume it would be there showing Automatic - Delayed...
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Ah, using Soluto, I see that some of these are applications, and not necessarily Services - such as the Adobe ARM - which I've set to delayed - any real way to verify it has run after being delayed from boot?
 
No need for Adobe or Java updaters to start up with Windows or be delayed, either one. Just uncheck them in msconfig. They will tell you if a newer version is available when you actually use them.

I remove Air and Acrobat in Control Panel if they are not needed as both often generate errors in logs.
 
Just an update, so far still booting in under 50 seconds in morning; excellent.

I'll get to installing the cannon MP495 wireless printer by end of week. If it functions fine, I won't really know the original issue per se :)
 
airahcaz said:
Just an update, so far still booting in under 50 seconds in morning; excellent.

I'll get to installing the cannon MP495 wireless printer by end of week. If it functions fine, I won't really know the original issue per se :)
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Installed the Canon MP495 wireless printer software and driver tonight, so far no issues, even with printer off - will see what happens tomorrow morning. It put 2 applications in startup (My Printer - BjMyPrt.exe and Solution Menu EX - CNSEMAIN.EXE). Soluto states it takes 2 seconds and 1 second respectively, so I'll leave it in startup for now.

Also, when pausing or delaying via Soluto, it disappears from msconfig/startup - any concern there? what happens if you don't have Soluto and want to put it back?

Thanks
 
All has been well for days, but this morning I got a "
DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"

never seen this before, I pressed the power off and power on button and it booted fine
 
Today it took long to boot, in fact, it didn't complete, I saw the Windows busy blue circle on my network icon, and then disk activity stopped. I forced power off, then used Last Known Configuration.

I haven't used system restore as yet, but one of the last items listed is Windows Modules Installer (twice). When I look at my services in msconfig, this service is set to manual, and is Stopped.
 
Long boot again, hour glass on top of networking icon in lower right. I had to shut down, it started fine in Safe Mode with Networking, & Firefox connected fine to internet. Then restarted with Last Known Configuration, also fine. Last windows update was on 2/23, and PC worked fine till today (haven't turned it on since 2 days ago 3/1, but again, nothing changed since 2/23).

Having said that, I'm not sure a system restore to a previous date will solve anything, it almost seems possessed, as it boots perfectly fine now - I simply don't get it.

Btw, Soluto couldn't load when I first booted, so I couldn't tell if there was a service or program freezing the computer, but I did notice slow blinking disk light, and resource monitor showed 100% for disk usage - maybe someone can educate me how to determine what is the activity or process that was taking the 100% of disk activity.
 
Bit more info, had it shut down for over 48 hours, just turned it on, long boot, I heard the hard drive running / clicking, and I forced it to power off via the power button.

Restarted: it informed me that windows didn't shut down normally, and to select normal boot or safe mode. I selected normal boot, and all is fine.

I suppose anytime this happens, I can repeat the forced power off, but have to believe that will cause long term damage. But does that symptom point to anything anyone can think of? IP conflict?

I'm wondering what the PC resolves by immediately booting a 2nd time, with absolutely nothing changed.
 
airahcaz said:
Bit more info, had it shut down for over 48 hours, just turned it on, long boot, I heard the hard drive running / clicking, and I forced it to power off via the power button.

Restarted: it informed me that windows didn't shut down normally, and to select normal boot or safe mode. I selected normal boot, and all is fine.

I suppose anytime this happens, I can repeat the forced power off, but have to believe that will cause long term damage. But does that symptom point to anything anyone can think of? IP conflict?

I'm wondering what the PC resolves by immediately booting a 2nd time, with absolutely nothing changed.
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I suppose alternatively I can also wait for the long boot to give me an option to restart, and see what happens thereafter. (since it seems to be fine after a reboot, oddly)
 
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