Solved Need quick help about new hard disk partition on win 7 disk management

[IamLEGEND]

just tell me one thing,
when installing windows seven, installation setup shown the whole 1tb unallocated hdd,, so I select it, and the setup is format (as it necessary) all 1tb hard disk space.?
(because I delete all partition of 1tb hdd which I created previously, which snapshots I post)
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sorry 4 my English, but I think you figured it.

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

It would be best to create a single 100GB (1024x100=102400MB) partition to do the installation to using #7 of this tutorial at the link below.

Then you can always extend the Windows partition to include the remaining unallocated space on the HDD / SSD or create additional Primary partitions or an Extended partition after the installation completes if you choose.




How to Do a Clean Installation with Windows 7

 

[dsperber]

just tell me one thing,
when installing windows seven, installation setup shown the whole 1tb unallocated hdd,, so I select it, and the setup is format (as it necessary) all 1tb hard disk space.?
(because I delete all partition of 1tb hdd which I created previously, which snapshots I post)
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sorry 4 my English, but I think you figured it.

My own recommendation would be to go ahead and let Win7 install on the entire completely empty 1TB drive... exactly as it wants to do by default. As I described earlier, you're then going to end up with two "primary" partitions as a result:

(1) 100MB "system reserved" partition, which will be the "active" partition in which the Win7 boot manager files will be planted, and

(2) 980GB or so Win7 system partition. I realize this is much larger than you will really want or need, but just don't worry about it now. You're going to use Partition Wizard after you get Win7 installed, to shrink this partition down to 100-150GB. Don't bother interfering with any of the default actions of the Win7 install... ending up with this huge partition as a result of the brand new Win7 install is not a problem. You will resize it later.

And then once you complete this Win7 install, now you boot to Win7, install Partition Wizard again, run Partition Wizard, re-size the 980GB C-partition (i.e. queue up the operation) down to 100-150GB, push the "apply" button, and then just follow the onscreen wizard steps to OK the re-boot.

At re-boot time, Partition Wizard "standalone" will kick in, complete the C-partition re-size, and then proceed on to let Win7 boot. You will then come up with your resized C-partition of 100-150GB, and the rest of the 1TB drive will now appear as "unallocated".

Then get into Partition Wizard yet one more time, and create your new partition(s) in the now unallocated space at the end of the drive... preferably as "logical" partitions, not "primary". Windows drive letters will automatically be assigned, and I can't remember if you will be asked to re-boot or not (I think not, actually, as I don't think it's necessary... but if so, then let it re-boot).

Now you're home free.

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

That's all just foolish when the Windows 7 installer can create the partition to start with and there will be no need at to mess with Partition Wizard at all after the installation completes.

The new Windows 7 "System Reserved" partition will automatically be issued when using the Windows 7 installer to create a partition of unallocated space to install to.

Having the SysResv partition is an asset for many reasons, to include adding the "Repair Computer" link in the Advanced Boot Options as illustrated in Method one of this tutorial at the link below; not to mention it being needed if you ever have a need to use the Windows 7 Backup and Restore and BitLocker programs.



How to Start Windows 7 in Safe Mode

 

[IamLEGEND]

today, I install windows seven and create partition using pw installed version..these are the screens, plz guys don't blame on me of 30gb C: and D:. because I did not plan to store any kind of data on C: and D:, I only keep windows and few softwares on C:. that's why I gave it 30gb. in my point of view, giving 100gb to C: drive is wasting the capacity of hdd. and later my plane is install windows xp on C: and windows seven on D: drive, 100gb E for software and some games, (i m not a big gamer) 200gb F: for Music, and 570gb G for Movies, (i m like to keep Movies collection).
plz guys, comments on this. if any thing I do wrong, and need very necessary action, then tell me, I'll do that,

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[theog]

I will never for the life of me understand why people use DISKMGMT and DISKPART and not Partition Wizard, to manage hard drive partitions.

I'll tell you why, because in all the testing I've done with Partition Wizard, both the installed and the boot versions, I have seen it make format errors several times and completely mess up brand new installs and I haven't seen that using diskpart at all.

I prefer to use Windows to work on Windows whenever I can.

Best to stay away from 3rd party partitioning tools.

Now, after the Win7 installation to your new drive is complete, you can boot to the standalone Partition Wizard CD and now you can do whatever partitioning you want to in this PW standalone boot mode.

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very nice information dear,, could you kindly give me the link of PW boot cd wizard tutorial.. means how I create partition with pw boot cd..?[/QUOTE]

Make sure your partition 1 is no less than 100 GB.[/QUOTE]

It would be best to create a single 100GB (1024x100=102400MB) partition to do the installation to using #7 of this tutorial at the link below.

Then you can always extend the Windows partition to include the remaining unallocated space on the HDD / SSD or create additional Primary partitions or an Extended partition after the installation completes if you choose.




How to Do a Clean Installation with Windows 7

just tell me one thing,
when installing windows seven, installation setup shown the whole 1tb unallocated hdd,, so I select it, and the setup is format (as it necessary) all 1tb hard disk space.?
(because I delete all partition of 1tb hdd which I created previously, which snapshots I post)
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sorry 4 my English, but I think you figured it.

My own recommendation would be to go ahead and let Win7 install on the entire completely empty 1TB drive... exactly as it wants to do by default. As I described earlier, you're then going to end up with two "primary" partitions as a result:

(1) 100MB "system reserved" partition, which will be the "active" partition in which the Win7 boot manager files will be planted, and

(2) 980GB or so Win7 system partition. I realize this is much larger than you will really want or need, but just don't worry about it now. You're going to use Partition Wizard after you get Win7 installed, to shrink this partition down to 100-150GB. Don't bother interfering with any of the default actions of the Win7 install... ending up with this huge partition as a result of the brand new Win7 install is not a problem. You will resize it later.

And then once you complete this Win7 install, now you boot to Win7, install Partition Wizard again, run Partition Wizard, re-size the 980GB C-partition (i.e. queue up the operation) down to 100-150GB, push the "apply" button, and then just follow the onscreen wizard steps to OK the re-boot.

At re-boot time, Partition Wizard "standalone" will kick in, complete the C-partition re-size, and then proceed on to let Win7 boot. You will then come up with your resized C-partition of 100-150GB, and the rest of the 1TB drive will now appear as "unallocated".

Then get into Partition Wizard yet one more time, and create your new partition(s) in the now unallocated space at the end of the drive... preferably as "logical" partitions, not "primary". Windows drive letters will automatically be assigned, and I can't remember if you will be asked to re-boot or not (I think not, actually, as I don't think it's necessary... but if so, then let it re-boot).

Now you're home free.

 

[dsperber]

EXCELLENT!! Looks perfect! Great job. I'm glad to see you created all of your additional partitions as "logical".

Just out of curiosity, did you create the C-partition of 30GB while doing the install itself? Or did you just let it use the whole drive, and then use Partition Wizard afterwards to shrink C and then create the new partitions? However you did it, the results look perfect.

I'm quite frankly amazed that you got away with only 6GB used on your Win7 C system partition. I would have expected 30GB for C to have been much too small, but maybe I'm just projecting my own situation which is much larger... even just for programs, and not even for any data.

But, you seem to have your organizational plan about what you're going to put where, and it certainly looks like for the moment the 30GB C and D partitions are adequate.

If you do eventually discover you really do need a larger either C or D, you can use Partition Wizard to reduce the size of one or more logical partitions to their right and then moving them to the right, and then enlarging/moving either D and/or D and C, in order to enlarge the partition(s) you need to enlarge.

It would appear that you're now quite comfortable with using Partition Wizard to do very obvious things to partitions. You'll really appreciate it if/when you have to re-size and move partitions to the right or left, because not only is it capable of doing all of that but it's very intuitive.


Again... looks perfect to me. Well done.

 

[IamLEGEND]

thank u dsperber,,
and I m creating the partition of 30gb C: drive on installation of windows seven.. not let it the whole drive,, after installation of win seven I create partition of the remaining 901gb unallocated space,,
and I m very glade to know that I increase C: or D: anytime later from other shrunken drive,,
thank u your much dear,, I m now very satisfy with your comments..
and the PW partition utility is very easy and quickest way to do partition,, also thank you very much for this..
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data transfer rate of sata to sata hard drive is 100mb/second

 

[Bare Foot Kid]

plz guys, comments on this. if any thing I do wrong, and need very necessary action, then tell me, I'll do that,

You did an excellent job, well done!

 

[IamLEGEND]

thanks alot Bare Foot Kid.

 

[IamLEGEND]

friends,, I have change my mind a little,,
I want to gave the remaining capacity above then 500gb of G: to E: which is 70gb capacity.. wo how I do that,? shrink G: drive is best or break all Logical drive..?
If I shrink G: then re-allocate the unallocated capacity to E: then E: is still accessible or require format,? because I put some data to E:

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[theog]

Backup your DATA.
You will need to format new Partitions.

 

[IamLEGEND]

Backup your DATA.
You will need to format new Partitions.

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ok dear, thanks for your reply.

 

[IamLEGEND]

shit shit shit,,,
I resize/move 570gb G: drive, then the unallocated 70gb merged to 100gb E: drive,, then PW require restart the PC.
after restart, pw boot wizard is start, after that, pc restart again, and then I see that nothing any thing changed, G: is still 570gb and also E: is 100gb.
then I delete all partition and create again but one thing I really dont like it.. when finish creating all partition, in the last 9mb unallocated is remaining.. but in the previous partition, its not shown..its not a problem, but I m very discomfort to this...

anybody tell me why is that happening,,? because it was not happening when I create partition first time.
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[dsperber]

(1) You can always simply CHANGE DRIVE LETTERS on any partition. It doesn't matter what the drive letters currently are, you can change them.

And drive letters for partitions do not have to be consecutive, corresponding to physically consecutive partitions. They can be lettered anything you want them... using any letters of the alphabet.

(2) To re-size G to make it smaller, and give all of its returned space to E, why not just rename the partitions... call E -> G and call G -> E. You will need to use one intermediate step to accomplish that, say E -> X, then G -> E, and then X -> G.

Now you've got the drives "reversed" with E as the 570GB drive at the high-end of the drive, and G down lower. But what do you care? They're just drive letters???


Now I'll read your later post, to see what you actually did so far.

 

[dsperber]

As far as that leftover 10MB of "unallocated", yes... I understand you'd like to absorb that if possible into your G partition so that it doesn't appear.

If you try to "re-size" G using Partition Wizard, does it now allow you to reduce the unallocated space after the existing partition from what I would guess is that 10MB to zero? Is there currently 0 shown "after" the G partition in the re-size dialog? Or is it 10MB?


Anyway, there is a certain fixed overhead in the setup of the "extended partition" inside of which all of the "logical" partitions are sub-defined. This is usually 7-10MB, and cannot be avoided. But it usually is physically located at the FRONT (left side) of the "extended partition", and would normally never appear as "unallocated" because it really cannot be allocated to a real partition. It is simply fixed overhead for the "extended partition".

So I wouldn't think this 10MB at the upper-end of the drive is this fixed overhead for the "extended partition".

And yet, it shows up. Maybe it's just a "rounding error" on the allocation of partitions, and the total size of the "extended partition" covering all of your "logical" partitions.

Anyway, if you can re-size your G partition, and that 10MB appears available above the partition, which you can then reduce to 0 (thus enlarging G to include this final 10MB), then fine. If not, well, I suspect it's just "rounding error" and you're going to have to live with it, unless you want to delete all of the "logical" partitions and start over allocating them from the once again single consolidated 901GB with no dangling 10MB showing.

Just make sure that as you allocate partitions (maybe in reverse order, starting from the high-end of the drive and working downward, and then manually re-lettering them if necessary so that you get the drive letters you want for each partition) you ensure that there is 0GB after.


Anyway, presumably you have your initial data on some backup medium, since you loaded your partitions initially after partitioning the new drive from scratch. So I assume in worst case you could do that again, deleting all partitions D-G and starting from scratch... this time to your new specifications. And then you'd re-copy your starting data to the correct partitions.

But after the fact, if manually re-lettering two drives (to accomplish a "letter reversal", which is an easy way to re-size without actually re-sizing) doesn't give you what you want, you'll simply have to accomplish what you want in multiple logical steps:

(a) re-size the key partition, and then

(b) MOVE adjacent partitions right or left into the now unallocated space from the first re-size, and then

(c) enlarge the partition you really wanted to enlarge.
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All of this should not require a re-boot, since it doesn't involve C.

Alternatively, as I suggested earlier, maybe just reversing drive letters would accomplish what you want in the easiest way. Again, the drive letters assigned to partitions are 100% under your control (except for C, which cannot change). And they do NOT have to be consecutive... they can be anything, anywhere.

 

[IamLEGEND]

in PW, the resize/moved operation is not done with me.. I mean I can't do the resize method in pw. so that, I delete all partition instead of C:, then re create them all with new changes of space, only one thing is discomfort to me the last 9mb unallocated is remain, because it is not show previously,,,
anyway,, as you said, it should be some rounding error, or something,,,
and now, the partition condition is lock like that,, I think its ok ,,,,

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[dsperber]

Your original arrangement was:

C - 29.90GB
D - 30.00GB
E - 100.58GB
F - 200.19GB
G - 570.74GB
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Your rearrangement goal was to enlarge E by 70GB, thus increasing its size to approximately 170GB. And the plan was to find the 70GB you needed to enlarge E, by taking 70GB from G (keeping its right edge just where it is, and moving its left edge to the right by 70Gb) thus reducing G down to approximately 500GB. And obviously in order to make that happen, you would have to keep the F partition in the middle between the increased E and the reduced G exactly the same size of 200GB but slide F to the right by 70GB. That was the obvious plan, and the steps that would be needed.

Looking at the original partition sizes, I believe you should have approached this task with the following sequence of steps using Partition Wizard, in the exact sequence shown:


(1) RESIZE G to reduce its size by 70GB, sliding its left edge to the right by 70GB. The right edge remains where it is (i.e. at the upper end of the drive), and the left edge moves to the right by 70GB.

You accomplish this by specifying the unallocated space on the right of G to 0GB, and the unallocated space on the left of G to 70GB.

In the graphical representation of the drive, this would then show 70GB "unallocated" to the left of G, located between the right edge of the current F and the left edge of the resized G.


(2) MOVE F to the right by 70GB, thus taking up all of the "unallocated" space to its right move, and creating a new "unallocated" area of 70GB to its left, located between the current E and the moved F.

You accomplish this by specifying the unallocated space on the right of F to 0GB, and the unallocated space on the left of F to 70GB.

In the graphical representation of the drive, this would then show 70GB "unallocated" to the left of F, located between right edge of the current E and the left edge of the moved F.


(3) RESIZE E to increase its size by 70GB, absorbing the 70GB unallocated space now to its right, between its right edge and the left edge of the moved F.

You accomplish this by specifying the unallocated space on the right of E to 0GB, and the unallocated space on the left of E to 0GB.

In the graphical representation of the drive, there should now be NO unallocated space between any of the partitions. E should now be approximately 170GB, F should be approximately 200GB, and G should be approximately 500GB.


You can either use the graphical sliders to move the left and right edges of the partition you're working on, or you can manually type in the numeric size values in the numeric entry area, or you can use the up/down arrows to "spin" the numbers until you get the value you want to see.

Once you get it all set up and the graphical drive representation of the partitions looks correct, you push the APPLY button and the queued operations will be performed in the above sequence, accomplishing the resize-G/move-F/resize-E you want to accomplish.

And then you'd end up with your goal:

C - 29.90GB
D - 30.00GB
E - 170.00GB
F - 200.00GB
G - 501.50GB
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I honestly don't know why you somehow got that 10.34MB unallocated at the end, and I do understand why this is bothersome. But I suspect if you'd done things in the three steps I defined above, which uses up 100% of whatever you shrink from G to slide F to the right, and then to enlarge E... I would have expected to not have this 10.34MB mysterious space.

But, maybe it's just some kind of a "rounding error" resulting from partition boundaries, that cannot be overcome.

Anyway, your current screenshot looks just fine. I really do believe that if you'd followed my three steps above, in that sequence, that you should have had no problem whatsoever with Partition Wizard doing exactly those actions.

 

[IamLEGEND]

wow,, this is the real method to do that, moving 70gb unallocated right to the 100gb E:.
but previously, it cannot done by me because I was doing a mistake,, I do not move the 70gb shrunk unallocated from G: to the right of E:,
I just shrink 70gb from G: and then right click on it and wanted to click "Merge" (I though merge is the way to 70gb merge in E
but the merge option not available until I click create the 70gb partition,
when I create 70gb another 6th partition, then Merge option is appear on its right click menu, then I right click it, click Merge and Merge it to E:. and then click apply, it says me to restart computer, after restart, pw boot wizard starts, and its merging operation takes 4 steps,,
and after the boot operation of pw, when starts the pc, then nothing anything happen, I mean merging option did not work, and partition is still the same,,
that is the mistake I was doing before,,
anyway, I delete all partition and re create again with new spaces of drive,,, and it worked, jst discomfort wth 9mb unallocated,
anyway,, its ok,, now I m using hard drive, and transfer my old hdd data to it,,,
thank you very much for very useful information..

 

[dsperber]

wow,, this is the real method to do that, moving 70gb unallocated right to the 100gb E:.
but previously, it cannot done by me because I was doing a mistake,, I do not move the 70gb shrunk unallocated from G: to the right of E:,
I just shrink 70gb from G: and then right click on it and wanted to click "Merge" (I though merge is the way to 70gb merge in E
but the merge option not available until I click create the 70gb partition,
when I create 70gb another 6th partition, then Merge option is appear on its right click menu, then I right click it, click Merge and Merge it to E:. and then click apply, it says me to restart computer, after restart, pw boot wizard starts, and its merging operation takes 4 steps,,

You can't magically make the newly unallocated 70GB that is manufactured by reducing G fly into E.

You have to do this in three logical steps, as I detailed above:

(1) reduce G by 70GB, creating 70GB of unallocated space to its left
(2) slide F to the right by 70GB, absorbing the newly available 70GB now to its right, and producing a new 70GB of unallocated space now to its left
(3) enlarge E, absorbing the new 70GB of unallocated space now to its right.

No partition "merges", no new partitions created and then "merge"... just resize G, slide F, and enlarge E.

For the future, now you know how to approach this type of problem. Just think of it graphically, exactly like Partition Wizard presents its picture of the drive and the partitions, and it's really intuitive what steps you need to go through... to make the picture end up looking like you want.

anyway, I delete all partition and re create again with new spaces of drive,,, and it worked, jst discomfort wth 9mb unallocated,

.Yes, you ended up with what you wanted... with this small 9MB unallocated as the price.

Otherwise, nice work. Mission accomplished.

anyway,, its ok,, now I m using hard drive, and transfer my old hdd data to it,,,
thank you very much for very useful information..

You're welcome.