Can't join Homegroup

SOLVED !!!!!
now my pcs have fix IP address, they are connected via fritz box router, and they immediately connect to the homegroup after boot.
i put the two services "homegroup listener" and "homegroup provider" to "automatic", and now it's finally ok, without DHCP!
The only ( very little ) problem i have now is that the router cannot be reached via "http://fritz.box", but only trough its IP address.
If somebody has a solution, i will be very happy :)
ciao !
 

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SOLVED !!!!!
now my pcs have fix IP address, they are connected via fritz box router, and they immediately connect to the homegroup after boot.
i put the two services "homegroup listener" and "homegroup provider" to "automatic", and now it's finally ok, without DHCP!
The only ( very little ) problem i have now is that the router cannot be reached via "http://fritz.box", but only trough its IP address.
If somebody has a solution, i will be very happy :)
ciao !

You will have to make an entry in the hosts file.

You can find it in: C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\Etc

Open the hosts file (not hosts.ics) with notepad.

scroll down until you see this:

# localhost name resolution is handled within DNS itself.
# 127.0.0.1 localhost
# ::1 localhost

under the last line type the IP of the fritzbox and then the name, like this:

Example:

192.168.1.1 http://fritz.box

(don't type # in front of it!)

You won't be able to save the file because of system restrictions,
but first save it to your "my documents".

Then copy the file to the right location

C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\Etc

That's it.

Good luck
 

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YES !!!
it works, thank you very much !
But now i would like to understand why it was working if i let the DHCP work, please explain me this ...
i mean, if all pcs have no fix IP, i was able to find the router by writing its name, when i fixed the IPs, i had to edit the hosts file, why ?
sorry, i am not so good in tcp/ip and networking ...
 

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because when you specify a manual IP your computer no longer obtains the DNS search suffix from the router (which it normally obtains via DHCP)
 

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All of my systems still run fastest on XP 32-bit for the most part. Win7 is fun to play with, but I still prefer XP for raw speed, security, and functionality.
because when you specify a manual IP your computer no longer obtains the DNS search suffix from the router (which it normally obtains via DHCP)

Couldn't have said it better, nor shorter. :D

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ipv6 must be enables for homegroup to work. There was a guy on here that told us to disable it because it is not needed. Turns out....if you want to network you DO need it. TURN IT ON.
 

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ipv6 must be enables for homegroup to work. There was a guy on here that told us to disable it because it is not needed. Turns out....if you want to network you DO need it. TURN IT ON.

the guy told people who were having random internet drops and disconnects to disable it just to diagnose the problem. Many ppl are finding that homegroup is such a PITA that they are using workgroup instead

ken
 

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ipv6 must be enables for homegroup to work. There was a guy on here that told us to disable it because it is not needed. Turns out....if you want to network you DO need it. TURN IT ON.

the guy told people who were having random internet drops and disconnects to disable it just to diagnose the problem. Many ppl are finding that homegroup is such a PITA that they are using workgroup instead

ken

I agree with Ken,

With regular (old style) networking IPv6 can give conflicts, and therefore the first thing to do when troubleshooting is to turn it off, as well as all firewalls.

With homegroup networking IPv6 needs to be ON.

I have been extensively experimenting with homegroup with 4 machines, and I hate to say this, but MS failed miserably in their effort to make networking easier.

Instead, it introduced a whole new set of problems.
I am not going to mention them all because there are just too many.
But having to link users to live accounts for home networking to be able to restrict users access, is too ridiculous for words.

I recommend people to stick with regular networking, and advanced sharing.
To avoid conflicts one can turn off IPv6, although on my network it doesn't give me any grief.

I for one will not be helping people who have homegroup networking on,
because there are too many pitfalls.

If they switch back to regular nw, I will provide all the help needed.


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Yes Ken, the person whop told us to turn off ipv6 had more to do with random disconnects than homegroup issues.........

What is the best way to set up workgroup? I have never used it..
 

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Yes Ken, the person whop told us to turn off ipv6 had more to do with random disconnects than homegroup issues.........

What is the best way to set up workgroup? I have never used it..

To avoid confusion.

Homegroup networking is a name for the new (supposedly) easy way to setup a network.

Setting up A workgroup is the old way.
Just as easy, more secure and more versatile.

There are a few basic principles you have to pay attention to and then it's child's play.

1. Before Vista, all the computers in the network needed to have the same network name.
Although this is not necessary for Vista and Win7, I recommend setting it, just in case you occasionally need to connect a XP machine to the network.

To do this:
click on start orb, in searchfield type systempropertiesadvanced.exe
and press enter.

Goto the Computername tab
click on the edit button
In the "workgroup" box type the name you want for your group.
(This can be anything, but keep it short and simple, and no spaces or strange signs)
There are no objections to keeping the default workgroup name.

After changing you need to reboot.
Do this procedure on all computers.

After changing and rebooting all the computers, they all should see each other in network.

If not, a number of things could cause it.
Maybe you changed some settings in network settings, like discovery.
Or a firewall could be blocking it.

Before you change anything, disable all firewalls, including 3rd party firewalls.
If all computers see each other now, you must examine the firewalls for too strict settings.

If they still don't see each other or not all of them, check back here.

2. If all computers see each other, you need to have at least one shared folder on each of them, to be able to do anything with your network.

Let's set up a shared folder on one of the computers.

a. Open the explorer and go to the folder you want to share.
b. Right click on it, click on properties and select the share tab.
c. now click on advanced sharing.
d. Tick the "share this folder" box.
e. click on permissions
f. for everyone check all the boxes ie "full permissions"
g. click ok until you are back in the explorer
h. close the explorer

You have now shared a folder.

Remember the username and password you use for this computer.
You'll need it later on the other computers.

3. Now go to any of the other computers.

a. open the explorer
b. in the left pane click on network
c. in the right pane doubleclick on the computer you just shared the folder on.
d. fill in the username and password you normally use to login the computer you set up the shared folder.
f. click ok

Now you should be entering the folder.

If not, check back here.

Good luck
 

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Hey everyone! I was having the same problem but I found a solution. Apparently, not sure why, but Windows did not change the settings in the registry after enabling IPv6. I found a solution over here.

For anyone else having this problem:


1. Click Start. Search for run and press enter. In the field, type regedit and press OK.

2. In the registry, navigate to the following key.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip6\Parameters]
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
\SYSTEM
\CurrentControlSet
\Services
\Tcpip6
\Parameters
3. In the right pane, right-click on “DisabledComponents” and select modify. In the value data field, type “0″ (without quotations) and press OK. If the value was set to ``FF``, it was turned off.
4. Reboot your computer and it should work. It did for me.
 

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Windows 7 Homegroup

I am a MAPS member and have the final copy of Win. 7 Ultilmate and Pro. I have Ultilmate on my main computer desktop) and Pro. on my laptop. I have had the same problem that many others have about the Home Network not working correctly. After many and I do mean many hours of trial and error's I finally got it working just now. I use McAfee Security Suite through Comcast. I unistalled it and turned on Windows Firewall and reinstalled McAfee without its firewall. Did this on both my laptop and desktop. After all this, it started working and is doing well at this time. Hope this helps somebody out there.:p
 

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Try to copy your network settings from your deskopt onto USB and stick it into your laptop then connet it to home network. then change network type into home and set up a new homegroup on any of your computers, it should help
 

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Found a solution

You will need to disable the SSID broadcast on your router and then it should work
 

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You will need to disable the SSID broadcast on your router and then it should work

How would disabling SSID broadcast, have anything to do with joining a Window7 homegroup?

Could you please elaborate?

Greetings
 

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I just joined to share this with everyone.

I had a existing homegroup that was controlled by a desktop I am decomissioning. I had the same difficulty others seem to be having in changing the homegroup and this is what I did to create a new one;

Control Panel-> Network Sharing Center -> Change advanced sharing settings.

I turned off network discovery and changed HomeGroup Connections to "Use user accounts and passwords to connect to other computers"

I saved changes, logged off/logged on. Then I went in and I was able to create a new homegroup and password.

This seems a lot cleaner than disabling networking components from the stack.

I can't believe that there is no "change homegroup" option in the control widget.
 

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You will need to disable the SSID broadcast on your router and then it should work

How would disabling SSID broadcast, have anything to do with joining a Window7 homegroup?

Could you please elaborate?

Greetings

You might notice that if you are using a wireless network then your Network will be called the SSID of your router, yet if you have another computer connected through a wired connection then the Network would just appear as 'Network'.

Therefore there is a conflict of Network names that is why the Homegroup doesn't work. By disabling the broadcast of the SSID of the router, the Network would just be called 'Network' on the wireless computer and should therefore start working.
 

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You will need to disable the SSID broadcast on your router and then it should work

How would disabling SSID broadcast, have anything to do with joining a Window7 homegroup?

Could you please elaborate?

Greetings

You might notice that if you are using a wireless network then your Network will be called the SSID of your router, yet if you have another computer connected through a wired connection then the Network would just appear as 'Network'.

Therefore there is a conflict of Network names that is why the Homegroup doesn't work. By disabling the broadcast of the SSID of the router, the Network would just be called 'Network' on the wireless computer and should therefore start working.

Hi robot1000,

That would mean there is a bug in Homegroup because networkname and SSID have nothing to do with each other what soever.

Both the wireless connected computer and and the wired connected computer should have the same name in legacy network settings.
In Homegroup this is not necessary anymore.

I am sure something else solved your problem without you being aware of what it was.
But it's definitely not disabling broadcasting.

note: I had SSID broadcasting enabled and a working homegroup.
My wired HTPC, my daughters wired PC and my wireless laptop could successfully join the group.
My wired studio PC could not.

I tried numerous different scenarios.
When I created a new homegroup from the studio, my daughters wired PC, and my wireless laptop could join, but not my HTPC.

After days of struggling I found out that which ever computer created the homegroup, I could only join two others, and not a third.
All the computers had identical setups.

I am quite experienced in networking. I did it for my living.
But I found the homegroup to be utterly flawed, both with connecting,
and also security wise. (msn live accounts are recommended for user identification. :sarc:)
After three days of experimenting every possible scenario, I gave up.

I made a network the old fashioned way, with equal networknames,
advanced shares and ntfs security, and had everything connected and properly secured in 20 minutes.

MS tried to make networking easier for inexperienced users,
but imho they failed miserably.

Greetings.
 

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Win7 Homegroups and McAfee Firewall

I am a MAPS member and have the final copy of Win. 7 Ultilmate and Pro. I have Ultilmate on my main computer desktop) and Pro. on my laptop. I have had the same problem that many others have about the Home Network not working correctly. After many and I do mean many hours of trial and error's I finally got it working just now. I use McAfee Security Suite through Comcast. I unistalled it and turned on Windows Firewall and reinstalled McAfee without its firewall. Did this on both my laptop and desktop. After all this, it started working and is doing well at this time. Hope this helps somebody out there.:p

Helped me - was running Security Suite through Comcast, and 2 Security Suite Beta versions. Both versions disabled Homegroup sniffing and/or broadcast.

Solution: uninstall complete McAfee Suite.
Install/activate homegroups as per Windows instruction.
Reinstall the virus protection alone - allow Windows Firewall to manage firewall.

3 hours wasted until I found your post. Hopefully this helps others as well.
 

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If you are running a 3rd party firewall then you will probably have to set up your port s manually to allow windows networking

Ports 134 - 138 and 445 open both ways is normally what is required.

The settings in the network and sharing centre only set up automatic ports for Windows firewall
 

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