Can't connect to Homegroup - different types of network

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I have two computers, HP notebook and DEsktop. I can't join the Desktop to the Homegroup. HP notebook is connected with a wireless router and Desktop is connected with an ethernet cable.

Is it correct that the above is not permitted for computers in a Homegroup?
 

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Hi Welcome to Seven Forums ... Should be no problem at all make sure IPv6 is Enabled ...

Read the Link below ...

Ultimate Troubleshooting Guide for Windows 7 HomeGroup Connection Issues

1. IPv6 is enabled.

2, I've gone through the material on the link to no avail. It includes the following:
Connected to Same Network

Though this might sound obvious, you need to make sure the computer is connected to the same network the HomeGroup is on. Only computers on the same subnet will be able to connect to the HomeGroup, so if you have a wireless router, it would only be the computers connected to that router.
You can check if your computers are on the same network by going to the command prompt and typing in IPCONFIG. The first 3 parts of the IP Address should be the same, i.e. 192.168.0.x or 10.0.1.x
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That's why I thought that possibly I couldn't have one computer connected via a wifi router and the other via an ethernet cable.
 

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You could try the Troubleshooting the HomeGroup and see if it can fix anything.
Here is a tutorial by Brink:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/472-troubleshooting.html

Also, can you connect the Laptop with an Ethernet cable so the Desktop and Laptop are both connected via cable ?
If you can, try that and see if it makes a difference.
 

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You could try the Troubleshooting the HomeGroup and see if it can fix anything.
Here is a tutorial by Brink:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/472-troubleshooting.html

Also, can you connect the Laptop with an Ethernet cable so the Desktop and Laptop are both connected via cable ?
If you can, try that and see if it makes a difference.

I've run the Troubleshooting Homegroup several times. About connecting the notebook \via an ethernet cable, that's a fine idea. I'll get another cable and try it.
 

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I've run the Troubleshooting Homegroup several times. About connecting the notebook \via an ethernet cable, that's a fine idea. I'll get another cable and try it.
I disconnecteed the wireless connection, then plugged in an ethernet cable to the router (same one the ethernet cable to the Desktop is connected to) and to the Notebook. But that didn't work to connect the Notebook to the internet. Troubleshooting that gave the following message:

"Local Area Connection" doesn't have a valid IP configuration"
 

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See if this Helps ...




 

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Maxie, I can't run the flash video.
I tried Firefox and IE 11 on Win 8.1, everything is fully updated.
I have add-ons in FF that might cause this, but IE is "clean"...

Here's what I get

FlashError-SP01.PNG
 

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home built
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Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
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AMD Athlon II x4 620
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Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
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6GB GSkill DDR2 800
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AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
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on board Realtek ALC889A
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RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
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OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
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Corsair 500 W
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Rosewill mid tower
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CM 90mm rifle
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Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
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Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
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Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
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Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
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2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.



Try now David
 

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Thanks, this plays for me :thumbsup:
 

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AMD Athlon II x4 620
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Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
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6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
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Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
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Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
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2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
I followed the video's instructions. for the ethernet connection (Local Area Connection) instead of the wireless connection, and the result was that Windows Network Diagnostics (it ran automatically) said "Troubleshooting couldn't identify the problem".
 

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Did you try the Instructions in the Video ? ... Forget about the Troubleshooting side ...
 

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Did you try the Instructions in the Video ? ... Forget about the Troubleshooting side ...
Absolutely. The troubleshooter started automatically after the end of that process.
 

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As I see it you now have 2 different issues:
1) The original HomeGroup question/problem
2) Using a LAN cable (as I suggested :() on the Laptop vs. working WiFi
Right ?

Regarding the original HomeGroup problem:
Can you disconnect the Laptop LAN cable, and reconnect successfully using WiFi ?

I've seen problems with HomeGroup where the "fix" ended up creating a new HomeGroup.
Are you interested in trying that ?
 

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home built
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Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
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AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
As I see it you now have 2 different issues:
1) The original HomeGroup question/problem
2) Using a LAN cable (as I suggested :() on the Laptop vs. working WiFi
Right ?

Regarding the original HomeGroup problem:
Can you disconnect the Laptop LAN cable, and reconnect successfully using WiFi ?

I've seen problems with HomeGroup where the "fix" ended up creating a new HomeGroup.
Are you interested in trying that ?
>Can you disconnect the Laptop LAN cable, and reconnect successfully using WiFi ?<

That sounds like your #2 above. The answer is yes, notebook connects to the internet using the wifi, either without the ethernet cable connected.

>I've seen problems with HomeGroup where the "fix" ended up creating a new HomeGroup.
Are you interested in trying that ?<

Sure, It will have to wait until tonight; I have a full day ahead.
 

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So, as I understand it,
- You created a HomeGroup on the Laptop
- The Desktop cannot join the HomeGroup
- There are NO other PCs in the current HomeGroup

To delete the current HomeGroup, and create a new HomeGroup
- Leave the HomeGroup on the Laptop
- CREATE a New HomeGroup on the DESKTOP
- See if the Laptop can join the new HomeGroup
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
Did you try just leaving the HomeGroup with the Laptop and then joining it again?
 

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I got my two computers able to see the hard drives on the other computer and am able to copy files from the remote computer to the local one. Not using Homegroup, just straight networking. Don't ask me now I did it but I did find and "fix' several settings, probably notably sharing settings and having the same username on both computers.
 

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