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Alexey2912

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Hi,

Ideally, how should one clean a drive of remnants of sfc scan etc, after clean install and updating, before creating the 1st backup using macrium reflect?

Without installing any 3rd party apps.

Using cleanmgr?

Thanks.
 

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Yeah, Disk Cleanup is about all you have if you don't want to use third party applications.

There's a choice within it to include System Files. Say yes to that if you want.

I wouldn't attempt to clean the registry by hand.

But I would do a virus and malware scan before making a Macrium image--if at all possible. I'll admit I don't always do that.

You can do a verification on the Macrium image if you want, but that is not going to ensure a successful restoration.
 

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Personally I make a Macrium Reflect Image or Clone before doing any cleaning after a new install and the Windows Updates. Just in case.
Then if everything goes okay after a couple of days, (cleaning and adding programs) I use Reflect again.
 

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Thanks.

The 1st image, would like to be only of W7 and Office, total stock.

Including System files, in Disk cleanup won't harm...correct?

OR could use TFC cleaner?
 

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    4.00 GB
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    NVIDIA GTX 7980 512 MB
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    core i7 11th gen, 11700, 2.5-4.9 GHZ
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Personally I make a Macrium Reflect Image or Clone before doing any cleaning after a new install and the Windows Updates. Just in case.
Then if everything goes okay after a couple of days, (cleaning and adding programs) I use Reflect again.


I had the same confusion, to take 1st total stock, than tweak a bit like cleaning etc that would be my 2nd, than after 3rd party apps would be my 3rd....

Thanks Layback.......

I'd do that sitting at Pearl harbor. ;)
 

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    Memory
    4.00 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GTX 7980 512 MB
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    (1) HD Pro Webcam C910 (2) Bluetooth Stereo Audio (3) Si
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Browser
    Brave
  • Computer type
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    Dell XPS Special Edition 8940
    OS
    W10 Pro
    CPU
    core i7 11th gen, 11700, 2.5-4.9 GHZ
    Memory
    32 GBB, 2 X16 GB @2933 MHz.
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell UltraSharp 32 4K monitor.
    Hard Drives
    1. 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.

    2. 1TB 7200 rpm 3.5" SATA Hard Drive.
    PSU
    500W.
    Case
    Mineral White Bezel Chassis.
Thanks.

The 1st image, would like to be only of W7 and Office, total stock.

Including System files, in Disk cleanup won't harm...correct?

OR could use TFC cleaner?

I've never regretted including system files.

TFC is third party as far as I know. It may be OK; I've never used it. About all I use is CCleaner, Disk Cleanup, and various malware on-demand scans. I have rarely used other third party disk cleaners, but I don't see any over-riding reason to use them unless you are really in a jam with no other way out and are just hoping they might help. But not as a routine cleaner.

I run sfc /scannow maybe once a month. Chkdsk on my spinning hard drives maybe once a year. I have not manually defragged a drive in 6 or 8 years.
 

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Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
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Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
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AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
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onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
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Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
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Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Thanks again.

I understand TFC is a small, but a 3rd party app.......for the 1st image wanted to know what windows own cleaning utilities are, which you mentioned disk cleanup including system files.

What measures do you normally take before creating a backup......like sfc scan, virus, malware scan, chkdsk /f /r etc?
 

My Computers

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    Laptop
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    Dell
    OS
    W7 Pro 32bit
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0CF456
    Memory
    4.00 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GTX 7980 512 MB
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Pro Webcam C910 (2) Bluetooth Stereo Audio (3) Si
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Browser
    Brave
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS Special Edition 8940
    OS
    W10 Pro
    CPU
    core i7 11th gen, 11700, 2.5-4.9 GHZ
    Memory
    32 GBB, 2 X16 GB @2933 MHz.
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell UltraSharp 32 4K monitor.
    Hard Drives
    1. 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.

    2. 1TB 7200 rpm 3.5" SATA Hard Drive.
    PSU
    500W.
    Case
    Mineral White Bezel Chassis.
What measures do you normally take before creating a backup......like sfc scan, virus, malware scan, chkdsk /f /r etc?

The only thing I do before imaging is a standard run of CCleaner, excluding the registry cleaner, but I can understand why someone might do other stuff.

I run CCleaner habitually--pretty much every day, but I freely admit that's more out of habit than necessity--it helps to relieve my somewhat obsessive-compulsive nature.

I typically make images only once a month--immediately before getting the monthly "security only" single file update from Windows Update. There are rare occasional circumstances that I might make an image more often. My C partition doesn't undergo a lot of changes over time---I don't constantly change stuff and install/uninstall apps.

My anti-virus and anti-malware scanners are constantly running, and at any moment are no more than hours "out of date".

SFC /scannow is done randomly, once a month or so--rather than immediately before an image.

Disk Cleanup also randomly, maybe every couple of months.

Chkdsk randomly, maybe once a year, with no connection to imaging.

That's just me. Do what causes you to sleep better and not be a worry-wart.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
I agree, with CCleaner, once I install it, run it each time before shutting down....true it's addictive, makes a habit and OBCN.;)

Thanks for sharing.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    Laptop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell
    OS
    W7 Pro 32bit
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0CF456
    Memory
    4.00 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GTX 7980 512 MB
    Sound Card
    (1) HD Pro Webcam C910 (2) Bluetooth Stereo Audio (3) Si
    Hard Drives
    SSD
    Browser
    Brave
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS Special Edition 8940
    OS
    W10 Pro
    CPU
    core i7 11th gen, 11700, 2.5-4.9 GHZ
    Memory
    32 GBB, 2 X16 GB @2933 MHz.
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell UltraSharp 32 4K monitor.
    Hard Drives
    1. 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe SSD.

    2. 1TB 7200 rpm 3.5" SATA Hard Drive.
    PSU
    500W.
    Case
    Mineral White Bezel Chassis.
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