Going from 32-bit Win7 to 64-bit Win7

Any recommendations for a decent 3rd-party firewall?

Windows 7 sofware firewall is fine.


All routers have a graphical control panel through which its various functions and settings can be modified. The control panel can be accessed only through a wired connection and by authentication with username and password.

Using the default, factory-set password may allow a potential villain to access and change your router settings without your permission. Therefore, it's wise to alter the password the moment you start working with your device. You should use a strong password, containing alpha-numeric characters.


Router security
 

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    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
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    7x64g54008gb ddr4 2400
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
You only need one official installation iso file. Whatever the name -Ultimate, Professional, Home Premium - they all contain all the editions.

Easiest way is to use this and point it at the iso.
View attachment eicfg_removal_utility.zip

Then when you install, all editions will be offerred, choose the one you have a license for.

editions.jpg

Another way to do the same thing:

extract the iso, e.g create a bootable usb stick using View attachment Usb7ice.zip

Then on the usb stick look inside the sources folder for a little file called ei.cfg and delete it.

That is because windows setup looks at ei.cfg and offers to install the edition that is listed there. If there is no ei.cfg, it offers all the editions as in the picture above.
 

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    7 X64i5 84002x8gb 3200mhz
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
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    7x64g54008gb ddr4 2400
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
Thanks S1W2. I should be good to go with the .iso file now. And the ei.cfg trick may be helpful.

I didn't know routers could be so vulnerable in their default state, or that they could be configured.

I like the look of Usb7ice - previously I've always used RUFUS for making bootable drives, but this one looks simpler to use.

Good to hear that the Win7 firewall will be adequate. I guess those things don't really need updating.
 

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Win 7 Pro 32-bit
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Probook
OS
Win 7 Pro 32-bit
:-)
 

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    7 X64i5 84002x8gb 3200mhz
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
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    7x64g54008gb ddr4 2400
    Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
I'm very grateful to Bree, S1W2, and Marie SWE for all this excellent advice about the different possible paths to W7 64-bit, and I'm currently looking at those ideas, links and downloads. I had no idea the "how to" of it could be so involved. So before I decide on the exact details of how I'm going to make the switch to 64-bit, it seems logical to first decide which OS (W10 or W7) would be the wisest one to go for. That way, if worst comes to worst and W10 "wins," I can just follow the TenForums tutorial which seems to be pretty simple and bulletproof, and if I end up opting for W7 then I can ignore that and choose my path from the suggestions in this here thread.
. . .I very much want it to be W7 so I can avoid all the W10 spyware and stick with the OS that I'm familiar with, but so many people out there seem to take it as read that sticking with the now obselete W7 would be a wrong move. Here are the only reasons I can see (so far) for their attitude:

1. W7 would be more vulnerable to malware and viruses,
2. New software and updates to existing software wouldn't work in W7,
3. It would mean missing out on useful new features in W10,
4. There are fixes for anything nasty (such as spyware) in W10, and
5. 64-bit W10 is free for legal W7 users while 64-bit W7 might cost a few pounds.

So here's my thinking so far on those points.

Vulnerability to malware and viruses (security):

How much more secure than W7 would W10 be? Is security an OS thing or a browser thing? If it's a browser thing, my Firefox updates seem more interested in whether my OS is 64- or 32-bit than whether it's 7 or 10, so I'm hoping that with 64 bits they'll update me just like they would if I had 10. I've used nothing but Firefox for browsing, with the plugins NoScript and CleanLinks. I know almost nothing about security problems that don't arise from browsing the Web, and have pretty much ignored that angle. Have I been skating on thin ice without knowing it?
New software and software updates:
Again, I'm hoping the use of 64-bit Windows will be enough. So far the only new programs and updates that have refused to work for me have done so on the grounds of their not supporting 32-bit any more. But then I've not installed many new programs or updates, so I don't know if my experiences are very representative. What do you think?
Fixes for nasty content in Win 10:
I gather a lot can be done to beat 10 into submission, but I've also heard rumours that the spyware can't be completely killed. I gather Cortana can be disabled but only at the expense of losing the search box in the Windows start menu, and that doing any kind of search with 10, even for a local file, gives a Bing search.

OMG! Looks like simply killing Cortana wouldn't be nearly enough then, and I can well understand your "Never 10" attitude. So, if a user did everything they reasonably could to thwart the spyware content in 10, what working spyware would they still have to accept? And if the user really went to town on this and killed all the spyware it was humanly possible to kill, would that be enough, and what useful features would also perish in the cleansing? Anything lost that didn't have a good (free or cheap) 3rd-party substitute?
. . .Has anybody written a unified, simple-to-use utility that makes the whole battle possible without investing weeks of time and tears into the process? It strikes me that without such a utility, or at least a single, comprehensive tutorial on how to do it all manually, the biggest problem is the fragmented nature of the subject - a user could spend a long time doing their best to fix everything they could, and they still wouldn't know they hadn't missed something. So, if your time was limited and you wanted the most complete one-stop shop to show you how to do the whole job, where would you go?
Cost:
It looks like 64-bit Win10 activation would be free for me as a legal 7 user, as long as MS don't pull the offer. There's a good chance that 64-bit 7 would be free too (S1W2's activation backup and restore looks very easy and promising, thanks for that :-) - and if it doesn't work, you never know, HP might respond well to a phone call). I gather the unactivated version of 10 runs almost as well as the activated version. What does 7 do if it's not activated?

I agree with the others, win7 will not be safe in the future. :(
I will use my win7 computers until a serious security threat is detected through windows update. when it happens I will only use my win7 computers offline to my win-programs as I have to use because they isn't available on Linux yet.

A small question.
How dependent are you to windows? I mean, what programs are you using in windows?

watch this video, it brings up various options that we win7 users have after EOL
YouTube

This one explains a bit between win10 VS linux. Well explained.
YouTube

If you want to use win10 then these two videos are good as they explain and show you how to remove lots of junk from win10
Minimal installation of win10 YouTube
Disable telemetry win10 YouTube


.
I really like his youtube channel, because he is good at explaining things that are technical but makes it sounds simple. And he constantly shows how to go step by step.
YouTube


I will keep using win7 for another five to ten years ahead. Now I have been using dual boot with Linux on my computers for almost two years now and Linux is my primary OS for almost a year now
My dualboot choice is Fedora for desktops and LMDE for my laptops.

Look through his videos and consider about having linux on an old computer to see if it might be a future solution for you.
The advantage of linux is that old computers become like new again, since linux is not as heavy as windows.
But it is a learning curve so start with having a separate computer to start playing around with.

The hardest thing I experienced was to stop thinking windows, windows and again windows.
Once the win-thoughts stopped everything did get a lot easier. :-)


That's my little tip to those who aren't fond of the win10 idea.
Have a nice day :D
//Marie
 

My Computer My Computer

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Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retr...cpu's intel 8088 up to intel i7 gen9.. dual x...oldest 1024KB newest 64GBmostly internals i don't game
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150G3, 3xCustom, i3, i5, i7
OS
Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retro:1x2003server.1xXPpro, 1xW2k,1x98SE,1x95,1x3.11
CPU
cpu's intel 8088 up to intel i7 gen9.. dual xenon on server
Motherboard
a lot of them :-)
Memory
oldest 1024KB newest 64GB
Graphics Card(s)
mostly internals i don't game
Sound Card
old retro=soundblaster.. newer ones internal
Monitor(s) Displays
smalest 12" largest 26"
Internet Speed
100/100
Antivirus
NortonInternetSecurity, MS, Avast, (not on the same computer
Browser
IE8, IE9. IE11, Firefox
Other Info
I can't fit all info on all my computers in these fields :-D
How dependent are you to windows? I mean, what programs are you using in windows?
Fairly dependent, I think. For 20 years I've gradually honed Windows and some 3rd-party Windows programs to do what I want with as little fuss and bother as possible. Here's a list of the programs I currently use:
Using Windows XP Mode (Windows Virtual PC) in Windows 7 32-bit:
Emagic Logic Audio Platinum 5.5 (with lots of plugins, soundfonts etc.)
DbPowerAmp
Using Windows 7 32-bit:
Adobe Audition 1.5
Audacity Portable 2.3.2
Reaper 0999 (Last freeware version)
Goldwave 5.7
ISSE (sound separation)
Melody Separation Tool (sound separation)
Media Player Classic HC
VLC Portable
Windows DVD Maker
DVDFab (DVD ripper)
DVDFabPasskey8209 (to watch DVDs region free)
YouTube-dl (command-line YouTube video downloader)
My Mp4Box (for splitting, joining, muxing and demuxing Mp4s)
Pazera_Video_Converters_Suite(1.4)
Mp3gain (adjusts gains of Mp3s to similar subjective levels)
CUETools_2.1.6 (CD ripper)
CD Burner XP 4.5.7.6282
Viper for Windows (audio graphic equaliser and compressor)
MIDI To Mp3
Go Minimal (MIDI to text convertor)
Mozilla Firefox with plugins NoScript, AdBlock Plus, CleanLinks and Social Fixer
Mozilla Thunderbird Email Client
Microsoft Office Word 2007
Microsoft Office Excel 2007
Microsoft Office Picture Manager
Calibre (ebook convertor)
PDF Complete
Microsoft Wordpad 5.1.2600.6010 (XP version for backward compatibility)
GwBASIC (archaic, but I've written a lot of useful stuff with it)
Various self-written batch files
Mouse Recorder Pro 2 (and various self-written scripts)
WinRAR 5.61
BatteryAlarmV1.1.0.0
Windows Update Manager 0.9a
Capture2Text
Chronolapse-1.0.8
Snap Timer
Default Programs Editor
RUFUS
Virtual Volumes View Portable (catalogues hard drive contents)

Most of those programs are pretty much part of my life. A few are in need of something better, but mainly I'm happy with them.



Thanks for the video links - I've just watched the first 2 - they do indeed contain useful info and I like the guy's clarity.:-)

I will keep using win7 for another five to ten years ahead. Now I have been using dual boot with Linux on my computers for almost two years now and Linux is my primary OS for almost a year now
My dualboot choice is Fedora for desktops and LMDE for my laptops.

Look through his videos and consider about having linux on an old computer to see if it might be a future solution for you.
The advantage of linux is that old computers become like new again, since linux is not as heavy as windows.
Yes, Linux does sound like a very interesting alternative to Windows, the way things are going.



But it is a learning curve so start with having a separate computer to start playing around with.

The hardest thing I experienced was to stop thinking windows, windows and again windows.
Once the win-thoughts stopped everything did get a lot easier. :-)
I doubt I'd ever be able to use Linux for everything I do - I've got too much old work that would never load properly in anything but those old Windows programs such as Logic, which itself won't run on anything more recent than WinXP. But there's no reason why I'd have to trash old Windows. I don't fancy creating a dual-boot, but I'm very accustomed to (3rd-party) system backup and restore, so in principle I could load up a system image of any OS I wanted, once it's been created of course. That would be very useful in allowing me to mess with new operating systems without losing access to what I have now. The only old machines I have are unlikely to run anything more recent than WinXP, unless Linux is VERY backward-compatible with hardware, and being such old machines, I don't know how long they'll last.



I'm currently having thoughts about the implications of treating the Web separately from the rest of my computer activities, and having one system / computer for each. But I've written some rather useful (to me) utilities that do things such as very effectively killing tracking on Facebook and downloading YouTube videos very easily and reliably. Unfortunately they were written in various combinations of DOS, macro recorder scripts, and the archaic GwBASIC (weird in this day and age, I know, but GwBASIC is the only language I'm good at :o ). They took a lot of work to write, and I can't imagine they'd run at all on Linux - they'd likely give some trouble if I even ported them onto a different computer running Win7. I'll rack my brains a little further to see if there's anything else I've overlooked that needs Windows and the Web. It seems that whatever I do I'm set for some tough learning curves, so it's largely a matter of trying to forecast the way forward that will prove the easiest in the long run without sucking me into so much work in the short term that the rest of my life gets no attention.
 

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Win 7 Pro 32-bit
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Probook
OS
Win 7 Pro 32-bit
I still don't understand the reluctance of individuals to upgrade to Windows 10?
I participated in the Windows 10 Insider Fast Ring Beta testers during its development.
I'm running Win10 Home now, no issues.
Have dual boot Win7 Win10

Snick
 

My Computer My Computer

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Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch,...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Desktop & Compaq Laptop
OS
Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256Gb,
Hitachi HDD 1Tb,
Crucial MX SSD 250Gb
Segate 3Tb USB 3.0 Ext. Backup HDD
Internet Speed
150Mbps dn, 20Mbps up
Antivirus
Avast Free, Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit & Anti-Ransomware
Browser
Firefox, Chrome, Opera, & VPN
I didn't know routers could be so vulnerable in their default state, or that they could be configured.
If I may add to SiW's advice : use a mixture of numeric, alphanumeric and special characters for the router password. A 16+ character password is advised.

If you use wireless, ensure you are using WPA2 and NOT WEP protocol. There will be a setting for that in the router.
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz O/C'ed to 4.0GHz16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Cha...EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Golden Mk. I.4
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64 ; Xubuntu x64
CPU
Intel i7 860 @ 2.80 GHz O/C'ed to 4.0GHz
Motherboard
Gigabyte P55A-UD3R Rev.1. Award BIOS F13
Memory
16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB
Sound Card
Realtek Integrated
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 and 1920*1080
Hard Drives
1*Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD;
1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
1*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB;
2*Western Digital 1TB External USB 3.0
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0
PSU
Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W
Case
Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z
Cooling
Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
...Here's a list of the programs I currently use:
Using Windows XP Mode (Windows Virtual PC) in Windows 7 32-bit:
XP Mode will not install in W10, but in W10 Pro you can import it and run it as a Hyper-V VM.
Import Windows XP Mode from Windows 7 to Windows 10 | Tutorials


VLC Portable
VLC is available for Linux.


Windows DVD Maker
The Media Centre, of which DVD Maker is a part, has been removed in W10. DVD Styler is a good (if not better) replacement. I use the Portable Apps version.
DVDStyler Portable (DVD menu creator) | PortableApps.com

Microsoft Office Word 2007
Microsoft Office Excel 2007
LibreOffice is quite a good multi-platform substitute.

I doubt I'd ever be able to use Linux for everything I do - I've got too much old work that would never load properly in anything but those old Windows programs...
You could always run a Windows VM under Linux for those programs you cannot do without.
 

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    Windows 7 Home Premium x64AMD V1204GB
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Toshiba satellite C650D
    OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    CPU
    AMD V120
    Memory
    4GB
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Antivirus
    MSE
    Browser
    IE11, Edge, Firefox
    Other Info
    I also have W7 Pro on my System Two, and several W7 Hyper-V VMs. My other machines run Windows 10/11. Their specs are in my Ten Forums & Eleven Forum profiles.
  • At a glance

    Windows 7 Pro x64Intel i5-3320M8 GB
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Thinkpad T430
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro x64
    CPU
    Intel i5-3320M
    Memory
    8 GB
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO
    Antivirus
    MSE
I still don't understand the reluctance of individuals to upgrade to Windows 10?
I participated in the Windows 10 Insider Fast Ring Beta testers during its development.
I'm running Win10 Home now, no issues.
Have dual boot Win7 Win10

Snick

It's simple. If you do not like company policies on data collection, you have to find alternatives.
Example, you may not like that the government listens to you, collect data via the NSA and so on. But you think it's okay for companies to do the same thing and sell the information to third parties. Isn't that contradictory?

So to get companies to stop doing stupid things, you have to boycott their products.
Either they have to change so the customers come back or they will go bankrupt. We consumers has the power if we all go together.
So those who continue using their products is the same as saying that it is okay for them to continue to do what they do.

So complaining but continuing to use the product will never bring a change. It will only get worse
Look at Microsoft's development in telemetry in Vista and forward. Facebook development of data collection the last 10 years. Google and so on.

Do you like this trend? Look at how China has introduced various credit system of the residents behavior is mapped and scored and scoring them based on that.... Is that how we want it all over the world.
Freedom of Speech.. will be gone
Right of search and seizure regulated.. will be gone. google and microsoft will know it all through to data collection from IP-security cameras with microphones, smartphones, computers and IoT and sells it to third parties as companies, private individuals (criminals) who have the money to buy the information, NSA, foreign states and so on
Everything people say that is politically negative will give minus points in the scoring system.
Nice future huh?

Yes, I know I'm exaggerating a lot now, but if it can happen in China, so why can't it happen in more places in the world.
Yes, it's very, very unlikely but not totally impossible. (big foil hat on this post. ha ha):doh::roflmao:
 

My Computer My Computer

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Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retr...cpu's intel 8088 up to intel i7 gen9.. dual x...oldest 1024KB newest 64GBmostly internals i don't game
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150G3, 3xCustom, i3, i5, i7
OS
Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retro:1x2003server.1xXPpro, 1xW2k,1x98SE,1x95,1x3.11
CPU
cpu's intel 8088 up to intel i7 gen9.. dual xenon on server
Motherboard
a lot of them :-)
Memory
oldest 1024KB newest 64GB
Graphics Card(s)
mostly internals i don't game
Sound Card
old retro=soundblaster.. newer ones internal
Monitor(s) Displays
smalest 12" largest 26"
Internet Speed
100/100
Antivirus
NortonInternetSecurity, MS, Avast, (not on the same computer
Browser
IE8, IE9. IE11, Firefox
Other Info
I can't fit all info on all my computers in these fields :-D
Marie SWE

And you don't thing Google, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, your email client, etc. track your browsing history. If you are so paranoid, discontinue using the Internet.

And you don't think Windows 7 tracks you? They reissue kbs constantly, reestablishing tracking, and don't have unpublished tracking. Don't be so naive.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch,...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Desktop & Compaq Laptop
OS
Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256Gb,
Hitachi HDD 1Tb,
Crucial MX SSD 250Gb
Segate 3Tb USB 3.0 Ext. Backup HDD
Internet Speed
150Mbps dn, 20Mbps up
Antivirus
Avast Free, Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit & Anti-Ransomware
Browser
Firefox, Chrome, Opera, & VPN
Fairly dependent, I think. For 20 years I've gradually honed Windows and some 3rd-party Windows programs to do what I want with as little fuss and bother as possible. Here's a list of the programs I currently use:
Using Windows XP Mode (Windows Virtual PC) in Windows 7 32-bit:
Emagic Logic Audio Platinum 5.5 (with lots of plugins, soundfonts etc.)
DbPowerAmp
Using Windows 7 32-bit:
Adobe Audition 1.5
Audacity Portable 2.3.2
Reaper 0999 (Last freeware version)
Goldwave 5.7
ISSE (sound separation)
Melody Separation Tool (sound separation)
Media Player Classic HC
VLC Portable
Windows DVD Maker
DVDFab (DVD ripper)
DVDFabPasskey8209 (to watch DVDs region free)
YouTube-dl (command-line YouTube video downloader)
My Mp4Box (for splitting, joining, muxing and demuxing Mp4s)
Pazera_Video_Converters_Suite(1.4)
Mp3gain (adjusts gains of Mp3s to similar subjective levels)
CUETools_2.1.6 (CD ripper)
CD Burner XP 4.5.7.6282
Viper for Windows (audio graphic equaliser and compressor)
MIDI To Mp3
Go Minimal (MIDI to text convertor)
Mozilla Firefox with plugins NoScript, AdBlock Plus, CleanLinks and Social Fixer
Mozilla Thunderbird Email Client
Microsoft Office Word 2007
Microsoft Office Excel 2007
Microsoft Office Picture Manager
Calibre (ebook convertor)
PDF Complete
Microsoft Wordpad 5.1.2600.6010 (XP version for backward compatibility)
GwBASIC (archaic, but I've written a lot of useful stuff with it)
Various self-written batch files
Mouse Recorder Pro 2 (and various self-written scripts)
WinRAR 5.61
BatteryAlarmV1.1.0.0
Windows Update Manager 0.9a
Capture2Text
Chronolapse-1.0.8
Snap Timer
Default Programs Editor
RUFUS
Virtual Volumes View Portable (catalogues hard drive contents)

Most of those programs are pretty much part of my life. A few are in need of something better, but mainly I'm happy with them.



Thanks for the video links - I've just watched the first 2 - they do indeed contain useful info and I like the guy's clarity.:-)

Yes, Linux does sound like a very interesting alternative to Windows, the way things are going.



I doubt I'd ever be able to use Linux for everything I do - I've got too much old work that would never load properly in anything but those old Windows programs such as Logic, which itself won't run on anything more recent than WinXP. But there's no reason why I'd have to trash old Windows. I don't fancy creating a dual-boot, but I'm very accustomed to (3rd-party) system backup and restore, so in principle I could load up a system image of any OS I wanted, once it's been created of course. That would be very useful in allowing me to mess with new operating systems without losing access to what I have now. The only old machines I have are unlikely to run anything more recent than WinXP, unless Linux is VERY backward-compatible with hardware, and being such old machines, I don't know how long they'll last.



I'm currently having thoughts about the implications of treating the Web separately from the rest of my computer activities, and having one system / computer for each. But I've written some rather useful (to me) utilities that do things such as very effectively killing tracking on Facebook and downloading YouTube videos very easily and reliably. Unfortunately they were written in various combinations of DOS, macro recorder scripts, and the archaic GwBASIC (weird in this day and age, I know, but GwBASIC is the only language I'm good at :o ). They took a lot of work to write, and I can't imagine they'd run at all on Linux - they'd likely give some trouble if I even ported them onto a different computer running Win7. I'll rack my brains a little further to see if there's anything else I've overlooked that needs Windows and the Web. It seems that whatever I do I'm set for some tough learning curves, so it's largely a matter of trying to forecast the way forward that will prove the easiest in the long run without sucking me into so much work in the short term that the rest of my life gets no attention.



Wow it was a long list. :D:D
Many of them have counterparts in Linux that can handle the same things. Some of them are both for windows and linux that Bree mentions and as he says there are Windows VMs as solutions and also wine for running MS-office, adobe PDF and so on. A little tricky to get to, but here's a video from chris titus that describes how to do it. Link: YouTube

Linux is not for everyone, but it may be worth looking at as an alternative. It's free and all it costs is a little bit of its own time. :-)

Linux mint is most similar to windows in appearance as Titus says in one of its videos, and Linux Mint has a large forum with helpful people. Linux Ubuntu has a great forum too, so one of them can be a good start before looking at other distributions of Linux.
Just a little tip. Just to dismiss if you want. ;)

I understand what you mean. I use some programs that only works in windows. But I hope to solve that problem over time.
In the meantime I use dual boot and I also have offline computers with older OS as you can see in my system specs to solve that problem....... and it's also a little bit of fun with retro computers. :o


I think you will find a solution that is perfect for you. We all have different needs and computer habits. so we all have different solutions and they are very individual.
The most important thing we can do is help each other. :thumbsup:
 

My Computer My Computer

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Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retr...cpu's intel 8088 up to intel i7 gen9.. dual x...oldest 1024KB newest 64GBmostly internals i don't game
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150G3, 3xCustom, i3, i5, i7
OS
Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retro:1x2003server.1xXPpro, 1xW2k,1x98SE,1x95,1x3.11
CPU
cpu's intel 8088 up to intel i7 gen9.. dual xenon on server
Motherboard
a lot of them :-)
Memory
oldest 1024KB newest 64GB
Graphics Card(s)
mostly internals i don't game
Sound Card
old retro=soundblaster.. newer ones internal
Monitor(s) Displays
smalest 12" largest 26"
Internet Speed
100/100
Antivirus
NortonInternetSecurity, MS, Avast, (not on the same computer
Browser
IE8, IE9. IE11, Firefox
Other Info
I can't fit all info on all my computers in these fields :-D
Marie SWE

And you don't thing Google, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, your email client, etc. track your browsing history. If you are so paranoid, discontinue using the Internet.

And you don't think Windows 7 tracks you? They reissue kbs constantly, reestablishing tracking, and don't have unpublished tracking. Don't be so naive.

Killing the telemetry in win7 is easy. A little harder in win8.1 but quite simple. my thread in here about KB's. https://www.sevenforums.com/install...telemetry-winx-preparation-3.html#post3380063
Killing it in win10 is also possible. But it breaks some features of win10 as a result. like searching for files etc. when cortana is so embedded in the system as it is.

I don't use google, any more than I link some youtube videos in here right now. No amazon or facebook or twitter. My email is an protected through a VPN privacy company server. No client only VPN encrypted web interface and I use an totaly isolated computer for that and banking.
My email I use for forums like this and other forums, is a junk mail i don't use for anything, just for registration.

When I just surf the web like right now, I use two computers, one for less reliable sites like youtube and one for forums and news.
I don't use browser history, no third-party cookies are allowed, no disk cache, my browser does not save forms, usernames or passwords. I killed the telemetry functions. the firewall blocks some IP clusters and domains on the internet.


I'm not paranoid, I just don't like data collection hysteria and I think my data is my data. That is only my way to make a stand for what i believe in. ;)
 

My Computer My Computer

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Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retr...cpu's intel 8088 up to intel i7 gen9.. dual x...oldest 1024KB newest 64GBmostly internals i don't game
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150G3, 3xCustom, i3, i5, i7
OS
Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retro:1x2003server.1xXPpro, 1xW2k,1x98SE,1x95,1x3.11
CPU
cpu's intel 8088 up to intel i7 gen9.. dual xenon on server
Motherboard
a lot of them :-)
Memory
oldest 1024KB newest 64GB
Graphics Card(s)
mostly internals i don't game
Sound Card
old retro=soundblaster.. newer ones internal
Monitor(s) Displays
smalest 12" largest 26"
Internet Speed
100/100
Antivirus
NortonInternetSecurity, MS, Avast, (not on the same computer
Browser
IE8, IE9. IE11, Firefox
Other Info
I can't fit all info on all my computers in these fields :-D
And you don't thing Google, Amazon, Facebook, Twitter, your email client, etc. track your browsing history. If you are so paranoid, discontinue using the Internet.
Sure, avoiding Win10 or killing its spyware won't stop other privacy invasions. But there are solutions to a lot of that.

I don't use Google - they don't seem to have anything unique that I want. There are search engines that don't track you. I don't normally visit YouTube directly - I just use the command-line utility YouTube-dl.exe with my own tailor-made user interface to download what I want.

Amazon is more of a problem - I can't stop them keeping tabs on what I buy, but I can browse there before logging in to make a purchase. Sometimes I even search for what I want from Amazon using a no-tracking search engine and then log in and buy it. I also use AdBlock Plus to block any crap Amazon tries to shove in my face.

Facebook - I've not seen an ad there for years. I can't stop them from profiling me according to what I post there, but I use Clean Links, AdBlock Plus, Social Fixer, and a small program of my own to kill their ads and tracking. As a result, when I browse to an external website from a link provided by a Facebook Friend in my newsfeed, the website doesn't know where I came from, and Facebook doesn't know I went there. Optionally I can throw a switch to generate a bogus tracking link - it's said that it's only necessary to mess up a small percentage of a website's tracking data to wreck the whole game for them.

Twitter I can live without.

Thunderbird gives me all I want of an email client - I just send and receive emails. Naturally I have a "junk" email account like Marie does, as well as a "real" account. Ironically I very rarely see any unsolicited junk mail in Microsoft's Hotmail (or whatever daft name they call it these days)
And you don't think Windows 7 tracks you? They reissue kbs constantly, reestablishing tracking, and don't have unpublished tracking. Don't be so naive.
Like has already been said, the difference is that Win10 forces its updates on you, and those updates have been known to reinstate some of the invasive crap that the user has removed, and to break some programs. Imagine how that could turn out for a professional user under pressure to complete a deadline. Windows 7 gives you the option of not installing updates until you've had time to find out what they're likely to do.

But in the end it's a matter of personal preference. If you don't mind the commercial world tracking your every move behind your back, if you completely trust them and whoever else gets their hands on your data, and you're not concerned that your computer might suddenly let you down through no fault of your own, Windows 10 might be a reasonable option.

Apart from privacy and possible "update vandalism" aside, which I've so far only read about rather than directly seen, I've had a go on a couple of Win 10 computers, and frankly I've not enjoyed the experience. I was looking for a way of turning Cortana off, and when I typed "cortana" into the Windows menu search box, all I got was a page of Bing search engine hits! All these years of avoiding Bing (because it tracks people), gone. Although I can't see anything much different or better in the basic OS, they've arbitrarily changed the names of features and where to find the controls for them. The result is that common tasks take me longer than they do on 7.

I tried to play a video file by double-clicking it from Explorer, and got the message "file not found." Nothing wrong with the file, and the folder containing it had been there unaltered for days, and looked perfectly normal. Eventually I fixed it by pressing F5 to refresh the folder. All these years of development and Windows 10 seems no more stable or bug-free than Win 98.

The other10 computer I've seen is getting very hard to use - locking up and going slow. Windows updates don't work any more, apparently there isn't enough hard drive space, though officially it's supposed to be big enough for 10, and came with 10 pre-installed. One way of nobbling the compulsory updates I guess. :sarc: Windows System Restore and factory reset useless - apparently for the same reason. Can't even boot up on external media - apparently Windows forced the manufacturer to use UEFI Secure Boot, which allows Windows to bypass any boot disk it doesn't like, and although it seems possible to turn it off, however carefully you follow the steps it still doesn't boot on external media, it just starts Win10. These things are a cinch with every computer I've ever had.

And that is why I'm somewhat reluctant to go from Windows 7 to Windows 10. For all the difference it makes, I suspect I may as well use XP and get a virus. I could probably recover from that.
 

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Win 7 Pro 32-bit
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Probook
OS
Win 7 Pro 32-bit
@ToughDiamond
@Marie SWE
To each his/her own, whatever you deem appropriate, all is well! :geek:
Food for thought, I'd appreciate your reply/response.
Are you aware of, or know how to deal with trackers?
Cookies? I'm pretty sure you have at least some knowledge about these.
How about, Supercookies, Zombiecookies, or the nefarious Evercookies/UIDH tracking from within the referer header
Yes the italic bold word is spelled correctly.
If not, to links for your perusal.
What Are Supercookies? Here’s How to Remove Them Properly
What are Supercookies, Zombie Cookies, and Evercookies ...

 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch,...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Desktop & Compaq Laptop
OS
Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256Gb,
Hitachi HDD 1Tb,
Crucial MX SSD 250Gb
Segate 3Tb USB 3.0 Ext. Backup HDD
Internet Speed
150Mbps dn, 20Mbps up
Antivirus
Avast Free, Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit & Anti-Ransomware
Browser
Firefox, Chrome, Opera, & VPN
@ToughDiamond
@Marie SWE
To each his/her own, whatever you deem appropriate, all is well! :geek:
Food for thought, I'd appreciate your reply/response.
Are you aware of, or know how to deal with trackers?
Cookies? I'm pretty sure you have at least some knowledge about these.
How about, Supercookies, Zombiecookies, or the nefarious Evercookies/UIDH tracking from within the referer header
Yes the italic bold word is spelled correctly.
If not, to links for your perusal.
What Are Supercookies? Here’s How to Remove Them Properly
What are Supercookies, Zombie Cookies, and Evercookies ...


I love deep discussions, they are the ones that lead to knowledge. :D:D:D:D:D I just wish my English was a bit better so i could explain things and my thoughts more deeply and more specific.:o But I hope I can make myself reasonably understood.. If not.. just say...... huh? what did you mean now. hahaha :p
I would love to go in on my security measures, but that's isn't so smart to do on an open forum. But i can say that i have five different layers for security and realtime monitoring...
Something that should be mentioned that many don't think so much about is that some outgoing traffic is as important to block as incoming traffic is.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retr...cpu's intel 8088 up to intel i7 gen9.. dual x...oldest 1024KB newest 64GBmostly internals i don't game
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
AsusX53, Aspire E1-572. AsusUX32A, HP Pro3130mt+3010mt, HP Proliant ML150G3, 3xCustom, i3, i5, i7
OS
Linux:Debian, Kali.. 2xWin8.1,2x,1x7Pro, Retro:1x2003server.1xXPpro, 1xW2k,1x98SE,1x95,1x3.11
CPU
cpu's intel 8088 up to intel i7 gen9.. dual xenon on server
Motherboard
a lot of them :-)
Memory
oldest 1024KB newest 64GB
Graphics Card(s)
mostly internals i don't game
Sound Card
old retro=soundblaster.. newer ones internal
Monitor(s) Displays
smalest 12" largest 26"
Internet Speed
100/100
Antivirus
NortonInternetSecurity, MS, Avast, (not on the same computer
Browser
IE8, IE9. IE11, Firefox
Other Info
I can't fit all info on all my computers in these fields :-D
Marie SWE
I agree with you wholeheartedly. When helping OPs that I would categorize as novice or less computer savvy, or more advanced with an issue that I am well versed in, I aways endeavor to provide educational information, videos, hypertext links, or M$ Word documents. I include several tools in my footer. Furthering OPs understanding of their issue never hurts. ;)
Firefox is my preferred browser, and about:config has many tweaks, referer header, etc. I use layer security as well including a hard firewall. My personal computers are in layers above my business server which connects to client's servers, etc, around the world. Port blocking, real time monitoring of inbound and outbound traffic, etc. TeamViewer is used extensively, AES encryption, etc. That is as far as I wish to go, as you, in open forum settings.

I won't be on SevenForums or really any forum other than Sysnative for a while, being that I am seeking rinstatement in Windows Update Academy, with my Instructor Niemiro/Richard. I submitted a request yesterday, hiatus was due to medical issues.

I assume your native language is Swedish by the flag. You have a firm grip on the English language as well :D. I am somewhat fluent in Spanish/Mexican with three years of schooling and working in the South West US for years. Company moves household and electronics. 2 million miles + no accidents. I'm in the suburbs of Detroit, my flag says the rest.

Snick/Bill
 

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Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch,...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Desktop & Compaq Laptop
OS
Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256Gb,
Hitachi HDD 1Tb,
Crucial MX SSD 250Gb
Segate 3Tb USB 3.0 Ext. Backup HDD
Internet Speed
150Mbps dn, 20Mbps up
Antivirus
Avast Free, Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit & Anti-Ransomware
Browser
Firefox, Chrome, Opera, & VPN
XP Mode will not install in W10, but in W10 Pro you can import it and run it as a Hyper-V VM. Import Windows XP Mode from Windows 7 to Windows 10 | Tutorials You could always run a Windows VM under Linux for those programs you cannot do without.
Thanks Bree, I'll look into that.
VLC is available for Linux.
Worth knowing. I guess I could always run Media Player Classic in a virtual machine with XP in Linux too, which would be nice because MPC is the only player I've seen that has a continuously-variable zoom, and that's a handy feature for watching ultra-widescreen videos on a widescreen TV, etc.
The Media Centre, of which DVD Maker is a part, has been removed in W10. DVD Styler is a good (if not better) replacement. I use the Portable Apps version. DVDStyler Portable (DVD menu creator) | PortableApps.com
Looks like another winner - I've just looked at it in Win7 and if anything it looks better than the Microsoft one.
LibreOffice is quite a good multi-platform substitute.
Hopefully that'd work, but I'd be a tad wary of using it for existing documents created in Word. Years ago I got into a proper mess - my boss at the time (a big Linux fan) pushed me off WinXP and onto a Linux box - I had to use OpenOffice for my existing Word documents, and it seemed OK at the time, but the learning curve of Linux slowed down my productivity, so I rebelled and went back to Windows after a few months, only to find that MS Word played havoc the formatting of the documents I'd edited in my OpenOffice days. I've seen a worse issue with different versions of Windows Wordpad - flipping a .rtf documents between the Win7 version (6.1.7601) and the WinXP version (5.1.2600) ruined them. It took a few "flips" before the issue happened, and I was lucky to discover the problem before it had destroyed anything really important. Thanks, Microsoft :-( Luckily the XP version of Wordpad runs fine on Win7, so I keep away from the Win7 version. I guess the moral is, don't lose access to whatever program and version created a particular document or file, keep backup copies of your files, and don't flip a file between different programs and versions any more often than necessary.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Win 7 Pro 32-bit
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Probook
OS
Win 7 Pro 32-bit

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch,...
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Desktop & Compaq Laptop
OS
Win 10 x64, Linux Lite, Win 7 x64, BlackArch, & Kali
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 Pro 256Gb,
Hitachi HDD 1Tb,
Crucial MX SSD 250Gb
Segate 3Tb USB 3.0 Ext. Backup HDD
Internet Speed
150Mbps dn, 20Mbps up
Antivirus
Avast Free, Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit & Anti-Ransomware
Browser
Firefox, Chrome, Opera, & VPN
Looks like another winner - I've just looked at it in Win7 and if anything it looks better than the Microsoft one.
Yes, I thought so too. I found DVDStyler back in 2015 when I was planning ahead for an upgrade from W7 to W10 and have been using it ever since.

Years ago I got into a proper mess - my boss at the time (a big Linux fan) pushed me off WinXP and onto a Linux box - I had to use OpenOffice for my existing Word documents....
LibreOffice forked from OpenOffice at the time it looked like OpenOffice would be killed off. OOo got a reprieve, but LibreOffice is now by far the better supported and can open/save more file formats that OOo.
 

My Computers My Computers

  • At a glance

    Windows 7 Home Premium x64AMD V1204GB
    Computer type
    Laptop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    Toshiba satellite C650D
    OS
    Windows 7 Home Premium x64
    CPU
    AMD V120
    Memory
    4GB
    Internet Speed
    150 Mbps
    Antivirus
    MSE
    Browser
    IE11, Edge, Firefox
    Other Info
    I also have W7 Pro on my System Two, and several W7 Hyper-V VMs. My other machines run Windows 10/11. Their specs are in my Ten Forums & Eleven Forum profiles.
  • At a glance

    Windows 7 Pro x64Intel i5-3320M8 GB
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Lenovo Thinkpad T430
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro x64
    CPU
    Intel i5-3320M
    Memory
    8 GB
    Hard Drives
    250GB Samsung SSD 860 EVO
    Antivirus
    MSE
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