HDD kills Display

[Megahertz07]

I don't think that is the HDD. Is the secure boot.

Please, update your BIOS.

Once updated, enter BIOS, go to BOOT Tab, Boot configuration and set it to OS=Other then hit F10 and SAVE settings.
Shut down and detach the SSD and attach the HDD.
See if boots.

 

[sezan1]

I don't think that is the HDD. Is the secure boot.

Please, update your BIOS.

Once updated, enter BIOS, go to BOOT Tab, Boot configuration and set it to OS=Other then hit F10 and SAVE settings.
Shut down and detach the SSD and attach the HDD.
See if boots.

It's updated, secure boot is enabled
Even changing to other OS it's still saying enabled, shall I proceed?

Question; does CMOS reset turn the BIOS back to original version? I performed a CMOS reset at one point.

I do remember on windows 7 I'm pretty sure I updated the BIOS to latest *the new version I have now*, could that be the reason for it? conflicting BIOS settings on HDD

 

[Megahertz07]

CMOS has two parts: One is on a EEPROM. This is the part you updated. The other part is on a RAM and stores the user configuration. If you do a reset, only the the user configuration is cleared and it loads the default settings. The main part (on the EEPROM) remains the same.

What are the options under boot configuration?
What are the options under secure boot?
In witch one you set OS=other?

 

[sezan1]

CMOS has two parts: One is on a EEPROM. This is the part you updated. The other part is on a RAM and stores the user configuration. If you do a reset, only the the user configuration is cleared and it loads the default settings. The main part (on the EEPROM) remains the same.

What are the options under boot configuration?
What are the options under secure boot?
In witch one you set OS=other?

fast boot (disabled)

boot configuration
CSM (Compatability support module)
Secure boot

*secure boot state enabled (greyed out)
Platform key (pk) state loaded (greyed out)
OS Type (windows uefi mode) > have tried Other OS still greyed out)

Keymanagement
install default
clear secure
save all boot variables

pk management 886 1 default
kek management 3573 3 default
db management 6322 10 default
dbx management 3724 77 default


Boot option prioities

Boot option 1
to
Boot option 5

Harddrive bbs priorities
CD/DVD rom drive bbs priorities
USB Device bbs priotiries

Boot override section

Windows boot manager (Samsung 970 evo plus 250gb)
Samsung ssd 970 evo plus (238475mb)
sata6g_2: ATAPI iHAS124 E
then my usb which I didn't write out

 

[Megahertz07]

If I understood, under Boot configuration you have:
- CSM (Compatability support module)
- Secure boot

Can you set - Secure boot to disable?

Try to set CSM to enable

 

[sezan1]

If I understood, under Boot configuration you have:
- CSM (Compatability support module)
- Secure boot

Can you set - Secure boot to disable?

Try to set CSM to enable

secure boost cannot be set to disable because the option is greyed out

I'll check csm and report back

 

[sezan1]

If I understood, under Boot configuration you have:
- CSM (Compatability support module)
- Secure boot

Can you set - Secure boot to disable?

Try to set CSM to enable

So I went into CSM - it's enabled

Launch CSM - Enabled
Boot device control - uefi & legacy oprom
Boot from network devices - legacy only
Boot from storage devices - legacy only
Boot from PCI-E/PCI expansion devices - legacy only

 

[Megahertz07]

So I went into CSM - it's enabled

Launch CSM - Enabled
Boot device control - uefi & legacy oprom
Boot from network devices - legacy only > - Ignore
Boot from storage devices - legacy only > UEFI driver fist
Boot from PCI-E/PCI expansion devices - legacy only > UEFI driver fist

Set as above.
Is Secure boot and Fast boot now disabled?

Detach the SSD and atach the HDD. Does it boot?

 

[johnhoh]

secure boost cannot be set to disable because the option is greyed out

To correct the Secure Boot Is Grayed Out issue, here are two things to try

1) Within bios, set a bios supervisor password. Right now it probably does not have one. If you can find a place to set a password, do so, save, exit, re-enter bios using the password and hopefully secure boot will no longer be grayed out.

2) Find a place in bios called Key Management. Go into that section and select Clear Secure Boot Keys.

 

[sezan1]

Set as above.
Is Secure boot and Fast boot now disabled?

Detach the SSD and atach the HDD. Does it boot?

To correct the Secure Boot Is Grayed Out issue, here are two things to try

1) Within bios, set a bios supervisor password. Right now it probably does not have one. If you can find a place to set a password, do so, save, exit, re-enter bios using the password and hopefully secure boot will no longer be grayed out.

2) Find a place in bios called Key Management. Go into that section and select Clear Secure Boot Keys.

I tried, still secured, I'm gonna call asus I think, see what they suggest

I set both types of password, set admin password first, nothing
set user password, nothing

I then went and done clear all keys, secure boot was disabled until I reset, it came right back with secure boot on again but PK key was unloaded

 

[johnhoh]

bunch more ideas here.
ASUS UEFI Boot utility and secure boot | Tom's Hardware Forum

Why does the “Secure Boot Violation” appear when I enter my WINDOWS 7 OS? | Official Support | ASUS Global

 

[sezan1]

bunch more ideas here.
ASUS UEFI Boot utility and secure boot | Tom's Hardware Forum

Why does the “Secure Boot Violation” appear when I enter my WINDOWS 7 OS? | Official Support | ASUS Global

Yeah tried it all

Will using windows 7 ISO > custom install > overwrite or format my current windows 10 installation > get back onto windows 7 that way?

I have the ISO ready to use

 

[dsperber]

So I went into CSM - it's enabled

Launch CSM - Enabled
Boot device control - uefi & legacy oprom
Boot from network devices - legacy only
Boot from storage devices - legacy only
Boot from PCI-E/PCI expansion devices - legacy only

Here are screenshots of my own CSM and Secure Boot BIOS settings for my homebuilt machine which uses a Skylake ASUS Z170-Deluxe motherboard. I only run Win7. That's what I installed on the machine two years ago, and that's all that's ever been on it. Intel i7-6700 CPU.

Clearly these BIOS settings are 100% compatible with Win7. And I don't recall changing any of these settings.

With these primary settings, I then customized the boot-sequence to allow me to boot from USB flash drive first, if inserted. If no bootable USB drive is present, the machine next looks at my M.2 Samsung 960 Pro NVMe SSD, where my Win7 system was installed.

 

[Megahertz07]

My Gigabayte Z170 is more simple.
If you select OS=other, there is no CSM, No secure boot option.

When you select OS=Windows 8/10 then a CSM submenu shows up.

 

[sezan1]

Okay dude, can you guide me onto how to install windows 7 ?
my W7 iso > when I load my USB I get an error telling me to change some things in Rufus
When I load partition 1 of my USB it loads the windows 7 install page which is great, of course the mouse and keyboard die straight away.. with it being Ryzen

I wanna do a custom install and just overwrite windows 10 I have just now on my SSD
My PS/2 to USB connector failed me, so gonna order a PS/2 keyboard and hope for the best.. Anything I can do to get mouse and keyboard working okay?

At this point I don't even care about my HDD. I just want windows 7 on the SSD instead of windows 10

Here are screenshots of my own CSM and Secure Boot BIOS settings for my homebuilt machine which uses a Skylake ASUS Z170-Deluxe motherboard. I only run Win7. That's what I installed on the machine two years ago, and that's all that's ever been on it. Intel i7-6700 CPU.

Clearly these BIOS settings are 100% compatible with Win7. And I don't recall changing any of these settings.

With these primary settings, I then customized the boot-sequence to allow me to boot from USB flash drive first, if inserted. If no bootable USB drive is present, the machine next looks at my M.2 Samsung 960 Pro NVMe SSD, where my Win7 system was installed.

 

[dsperber]

The easiest and most reliable way to create usable bootable USB media to install Win7 with the required USB 3.0 driver (and optionally also the required NVMe drivers) present is to use the Gigabyte USB Installation utility program, developed several years ago to support their own users who'd bought Gigabyte motherboards based on the Intel 100 Series chipset.

The Gigabyte utility is available from the Gigabyte download site, scrolling down on the page and expanding the "Utilities" category. It is described as: Windows USB Installation Tool, (Note) Support Intel 100/200/X299 series motherboards. OS: Windows 7 64bit,Windows 7 32bit.

The direct link to the utility on that page is here.

You simply run the utility, specify the source Win7 installer (either CD/DVD or mounted ISO file), specify the output device (e.g. 8GB or larger USB flash drive), and check USB 3.0 driver and optionally NVMe driver. You should uncheck the third "packages" box, which will for some reason automatically click on if you check the NVME second box. The utility will slipstream the missing requested drivers along with the original Win7 media into a new bootable USB flash drive that you can then use to install Win7 to a Skylake or newer machine.


IMPORTANT NOTE: after you download the ZIP file, before unzipping it you must turn off the BLOCKED security flag that is present. Unless you first remove the security flag before unzipping, the result of unzipping will be to prevent the expanded files from being accessible when you actually run the Gigabyte utility (which also is one of the files imbedded in the ZIP file), and it will end abnormally with an error message about "unable to add drivers...".

To solve the problem right-click on the ZIP file, select Properties, and you will see the Security item at the bottom of the General tab. Push the UNBLOCK button, then APPLY/OK, and now you are free to unzip this ZIP file. All of the expanded files will now be perfectly readable by the Gigabyte utility, and the process of adding USB 3.0 (and optionally NVMe) drivers to the original Win7 CD/DVD or ISO installer media to create new output bootable USB flash drive will run to normal completion.

 

[sezan1]

The easiest and most reliable way to create usable bootable USB media to install Win7 with the required USB 3.0 driver (and optionally also the required NVMe drivers) present is to use the Gigabyte USB Installation utility program, developed several years ago to support their own users who'd bought Gigabyte motherboards based on the Intel 100 Series chipset.

The Gigabyte utility is available from the Gigabyte download site, scrolling down on the page and expanding the "Utilities" category. It is described as: Windows USB Installation Tool, (Note) Support Intel 100/200/X299 series motherboards. OS: Windows 7 64bit,Windows 7 32bit.

The direct link to the utility on that page is here.

You simply run the utility, specify the source Win7 installer (either CD/DVD or mounted ISO file), specify the output device (e.g. 8GB or larger USB flash drive), and check USB 3.0 driver and optionally NVMe driver. You should uncheck the third "packages" box, which will for some reason automatically click on if you check the NVME second box. The utility will slipstream the missing requested drivers along with the original Win7 media into a new bootable USB flash drive that you can then use to install Win7 to a Skylake or newer machine.


IMPORTANT NOTE: after you download the ZIP file, before unzipping it you must turn off the BLOCKED security flag that is present. Unless you first remove the security flag before unzipping, the result of unzipping will be to prevent the expanded files from being accessible when you actually run the Gigabyte utility (which also is one of the files imbedded in the ZIP file), and it will end abnormally with an error message about "unable to add drivers...".

To solve the problem right-click on the ZIP file, select Properties, and you will see the Security item at the bottom of the General tab. Push the UNBLOCK button, then APPLY/OK, and now you are free to unzip this ZIP file. All of the expanded files will now be perfectly readable by the Gigabyte utility, and the process of adding USB 3.0 (and optionally NVMe) drivers to the original Win7 CD/DVD or ISO installer media to create new output bootable USB flash drive will run to normal completion.

Thank you I'ma try this <3.

 

[Megahertz07]

I have the Ryzen USB drivers and I'm preparing a guide for you. Be patient.

 

[sezan1]

I have the Ryzen USB drivers and I'm preparing a guide for you. Be patient.

I did all the above, I added USB support with that windows image tool to my USB with the ISO. Still keyboard and mouse are dying upon install page

My secure boot is now DISABLED!
No idea how, I restarted > checked into secure boot > it's disabled.. even after restarts its not securing itself automatically!! lol.

Used override to load usb just to check, window files loads fine etc

 

[Megahertz07]

Where did you get the USB drivers to add to the Win 7 installation disk?