"Setup was unable to create new system partition" -- I've tried it all

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"Setup was unable to create new system partition" -- I've tried it all

I have a machine that has been running Win7 Ultimate for years. lately it's been behaving badly, and it seems the SSD the system was on was starting to fail. So this afternoon I put a new SSD into the machine and went to install Windows on it. I am installing from a DVD, not a USB stick. I have used this installer disc before on other machines, as recently as a few weeks ago. I tried a second disc too, same result.

I keep getting the error in the subject line. I've spent 3 hours trying everything I've found on this forum and others:

1) Using diskpart to manually partition the new drive (found step by step instruction here, didn't work)
2) Turning off all UEFI stuff in the BIOS, and enabling anything labeled "Legacy" (it was all already set that way)
3) Changing the DVD drive and system drive SATA busses from ACPI to IDE
4) moving all the devices from S_SATA to SATA 3 buses, splitting them across the two, and ultimately moving them all back to S_SATA where they originally were.

I've even taken the target SSD out and reformatted it in another machine, then put it back in. no luck.

I'm at my wits end. This machine was running Windows this morning, and has been a solid performer until its system drive started to fail.

What small animal do I need to sacrifice here? I'm willing to try anything at this point, because my whole afternoon is shot!

Thanks
 

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Welcome to the forum. The normal way to do it is to delete all partitions and leave the disk blank then just let windows create what it needs
 

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Follow this tutorial Clean Install Windows 7 - Windows 7 Help Forums

As you have a UEFI BIOS, Win 7 can be installed as Legacy - MBR or UEFI - GPT. If you boot the installation disk as Legacy, it will install as Legacy - MBR. If you boot the installation disk as UEFI, it will install as UEFI - GPT.
Boot from the Win 7 installation disk, go to install - Advanced - delete all partitions - create new. Install on the big NTFS partition.
 

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I have tried all of this, none of it is working.

To be clear - the SSD I'm installing to did at one point have a Linux installation on it, but was put on the shelf after that machine was disassembled. When I put that drive in, I deleted all the partitions in the Win7 installer and reformatted. That didn't work. I switched to command prompt mode and used diskpart to reformat the drive. That didn't work. I took the drive out, put it in a mac, used Disk Utility to change it to one partition, no formatting ("Free Space"). That didn't work.

So a reformat tool in the installer doesn't work. A reformat in diskpart doesn't work. A reformat on a mac doesn't work.

This has been tried with two SSDs, all of which show up to the BIOS, show up in disk formatting tools, and are able to be successfully formatted by those tools. On multiple platforms.

On the installer DVD - in the BIOS I can only set legacy mode for the entire bus (there are two SATA buses on the motherboard), not per-device. At least, I can't find a way to do it per-device. One SATA bus has built-in RAID capability, one doesnt. Both buses are set to "IDE" mode right now (vs ACPI or RAID).

At this point, I'm thinking I might just put in a brand new spinny drive and use that, because I need to get on with my life. But I don't really understand what's happening and would like to. We have three PCs (which I built myself) in the office on this identical motherboard/CPU platform and have never seen this problem - All three have been in daily use for 3-4 years and are reliable machines. All of them have had Windows 7 completely reinstalled at some point or another.
 

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Is the computer the one you have on your profile specs (ASRock X99 Extreme4 )?

"Both buses are set to "IDE" mode right now (vs ACPI or RAID)."

IDE mode is an old setting for win 98.
It should be set as ACPI as you're not creating a RAID array.
 

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So this morning I went into the BIOS, confirmed that both buses are set to IDE mode. Confirmed that all other settings related to Legacy mode were set on.

I made only one change to the settings: I opted to set up the boot loader display screen and forced it to use the BD/DVD drive as the first boot option, and the SSD as the second. Saved and rebooted, chose the optical drive and booted into the Windows installer. Chose the SSD and it started installing with no errors.

The *ONLY* change I made was to force the Optical disc as the first boot device in the boot loader screen (even though it was already set as the first boot device in the regular boot order, and was previously booting from the disc and running the installer).

So does this boot loader thing somehow change how the optical disc is seen? I can't see why enabling that would suddenly make this work.

Thanks
 

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Win7 64 Ultimatei7 5930k32GBGTX1080
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Win7 64 Ultimate
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i7 5930k
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ASRock X99 Extreme4
Memory
32GB
Graphics Card(s)
GTX1080
Hard Drives
1x 120GB SSD (System)
8x 2TB Seagate (RAID on 3Ware card)
Is the computer the one you have on your profile specs (ASRock X99 Extreme4 )?

"Both buses are set to "IDE" mode right now (vs ACPI or RAID)."

IDE mode is an old setting for win 98.
It should be set as ACPI as you're not creating a RAID array.

Yes, that's the machine in question. It didn't work in ACPI or IDE. IDE is the current state just because it was the last one I tried.
 

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Win7 64 Ultimatei7 5930k32GBGTX1080
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Win7 64 Ultimate
CPU
i7 5930k
Motherboard
ASRock X99 Extreme4
Memory
32GB
Graphics Card(s)
GTX1080
Hard Drives
1x 120GB SSD (System)
8x 2TB Seagate (RAID on 3Ware card)
Did you detach ALL other HDD from the MB to install win 7 on the SSD?

You should start over with ACPI set. You won't have performance with IDE mode.
 

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    Windows 7 HP 64i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000IG - Intel 530
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    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • At a glance

    Windows 7 Proi7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz(4+4)G DDR3 1600IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
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