SSD / Backup - recovery

stereo

New member
Member
VIP
Local time
1:54 AM
Messages
541
I decided to order this
OCZ SSD 2.5 SATA 50G Vertex 2, OCZSSD2-2VTX50G [OCZSSD2-2VTX50G] - $134.00 : Penta Group!
And i hope i won't be dissapointed, comparing my Western Digital 6400 AAKS with this SSD :D
Please tell me how to proceed whit the the backup - recovery image ?
Should i partition the SSD - 30 GB for OS and the rest of SSD,as "storage" for my backup image ?
You think it's a good idea ?! If i have the backup image on the HDD, it's going to be a bit slower when i do the recovery , comparing the same think, but on SSD ?
Or, should i leave all the 50 GB SSD for Windows, and all the backup images should be on the HDD ?
I use very often Acronis True Image, and i want to have a bit more speed when i make the backup and the recovery.
Please give me some good advices, guys.
Thanks in advance.
PS : the backup image it's about 4 GB - 5 GB, and i always have about 2 images.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel7 4790K
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z97X UD5H
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 980Ti G1
Sound Card
SoundBlaster X-FI XtremeGamer
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung UE40JU6550 UHD
Screen Resolution
3840 X 2160
Hard Drives
1 SSD Intel 330
2 x Western Digital 6400 AAKS
1 x Western Digital 3200 AAKS
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922
I would suggest you use all 50 GB for the OS, and put all backup images on the HDD. The fun in the SSD is that it will boost your day to day activities significantly. At only 30 GB, you will always be close to full after a few installs, and then you will keep scrounging for space. I also recommend you put the page file on the SSD (since you have only 3 GB of RAM, you could use a page file).

I also use Acronis True Image, and don't really see a huge time to backup or restore since I run on a weekly basis (differential backup mode).
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-3960X
Motherboard
Intel DX79SI
Memory
16 GB GSkill DDR3-2133 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA SC GTX 680
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2005FPW
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Intel 520 SSD 240 GB,
2x Seagate 7200.12 1 TB
PSU
Corsair 850W HX
Case
Corsair 500R
Cooling
Corsair H100
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural 4000
Also, please pay attention to Theog's links - old versions of Acronis have problems with alignment and restoration of images. I struggled with the 2009 version - no matter what I did, I could not get it to align correctly (the original image was aligned at 63 sectors, and it insisted on aligning at 63 in the SSD).

The new versions of Acronis claim to fix this. Unfortunately, I only upgraded after I moved to an SSD :-).

I can probably dig up more information on Acronis and alignment if you want it, tell me your version of Acronis.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-3960X
Motherboard
Intel DX79SI
Memory
16 GB GSkill DDR3-2133 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA SC GTX 680
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2005FPW
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Intel 520 SSD 240 GB,
2x Seagate 7200.12 1 TB
PSU
Corsair 850W HX
Case
Corsair 500R
Cooling
Corsair H100
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural 4000
Hmmmm
I use Acronis True Image Home 2010 build 7,160
And i hope this version it's ok with the SSD.:rolleyes:
Without Acronis i'm like a fish with no water :D
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel7 4790K
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z97X UD5H
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 980Ti G1
Sound Card
SoundBlaster X-FI XtremeGamer
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung UE40JU6550 UHD
Screen Resolution
3840 X 2160
Hard Drives
1 SSD Intel 330
2 x Western Digital 6400 AAKS
1 x Western Digital 3200 AAKS
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922
From what I read, 2010 might be ok, if you do:

- partition image instead of entire disk image
- create the target partition on the SSD first, instead of letting Acronis do it

See below:
HDD image onto SSD disk | Knowledge Base
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-3960X
Motherboard
Intel DX79SI
Memory
16 GB GSkill DDR3-2133 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA SC GTX 680
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2005FPW
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Intel 520 SSD 240 GB,
2x Seagate 7200.12 1 TB
PSU
Corsair 850W HX
Case
Corsair 500R
Cooling
Corsair H100
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural 4000
From what I read, 2010 might be ok, if you do:

- partition image instead of entire disk image
- create the target partition on the SSD first, instead of letting Acronis do it

See below:
HDD image onto SSD disk | Knowledge Base
I didnt understand the second part.
Now i have a backup of my C partition, it's about 5 GB
Can i use that on the SSD ?? It was made on the HDD. Is that okay ?
Thanks a million.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel7 4790K
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z97X UD5H
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 980Ti G1
Sound Card
SoundBlaster X-FI XtremeGamer
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung UE40JU6550 UHD
Screen Resolution
3840 X 2160
Hard Drives
1 SSD Intel 330
2 x Western Digital 6400 AAKS
1 x Western Digital 3200 AAKS
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922
So, there are two ways of restoring:

- have a fresh, untouched target disk (the SSD) and restore onto it. Acronis will create the partitions according to the image you are restoring from, and then restore the data itself. The problem here is that Acronis will recreate the original alignment (which is from the HDD and is most probably not correct (63 sectors vs 1024 sectors)). We don't want this.

- create a new blank partition on the target disk first, before invoking Acronis. If you do this from Windows, it will automatically align the new partition at 1024 sector boundary, which is good for the SSD. Now reboot and use the Acronis CD (you created one, right?) to restore the HDD image onto the existing partition. This time Acronis will only put the data back, and you will have an aligned partition with all your data. We want this :-)

Remember: your backup should have been "partition only" not "whole disk". the difference is that the partition table information is added on in the second option, and it will sc*** things up.

Hope this clarifies things!
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i7-3960X
Motherboard
Intel DX79SI
Memory
16 GB GSkill DDR3-2133 CL9
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA SC GTX 680
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell 2005FPW
Screen Resolution
1680x1050
Hard Drives
Intel 520 SSD 240 GB,
2x Seagate 7200.12 1 TB
PSU
Corsair 850W HX
Case
Corsair 500R
Cooling
Corsair H100
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural 4000
I'm affraid i cannot do this because i installed Windows with IDE in BIOS, and now with the SSD i'll have to change to AHCI.
Whatever i'm doing with the backup image, it won't boot, i guess.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel7 4790K
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z97X UD5H
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 980Ti G1
Sound Card
SoundBlaster X-FI XtremeGamer
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung UE40JU6550 UHD
Screen Resolution
3840 X 2160
Hard Drives
1 SSD Intel 330
2 x Western Digital 6400 AAKS
1 x Western Digital 3200 AAKS
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922
I'm affraid i cannot do this because i installed Windows with IDE in BIOS, and now with the SSD i'll have to change to AHCI.

You could always change from IDE to AHCI when still running on the HDD. It involves only a registry change and a couple of reboots.
 

My Computer

OS
Win 7 Enterprise 64bit
This tutorial will tell you how to change to ahci mode.
The paragon alignment tool is the only app known to be able to align an SSD with data on it and not destroy the data. Price is reasonable.
Also the Paragon migrate will transfer your OS to the SSD and align it at the same time.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
This tutorial will tell you how to change to ahci mode.
The paragon alignment tool is the only app known to be able to align an SSD with data on it and not destroy the data. Price is reasonable.
Also the Paragon migrate will transfer your OS to the SSD and align it at the same time.
I tried this tutorial some time ago and didn't work for me.
Anyway, i guess it's better to make a fresh install of Windows.
But, thanks for helping me.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel7 4790K
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z97X UD5H
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 980Ti G1
Sound Card
SoundBlaster X-FI XtremeGamer
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung UE40JU6550 UHD
Screen Resolution
3840 X 2160
Hard Drives
1 SSD Intel 330
2 x Western Digital 6400 AAKS
1 x Western Digital 3200 AAKS
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922
I tried this tutorial some time ago and didn't work for me.
Anyway, i guess it's better to make a fresh install of Windows.

What did not work?

I would suggest some more reboots than the guide has:

First reboot to verify that your system is actually working and can start, before changing anything.

Then edit the registry key from the guide, do a reboot and just see that everything still works. This should now load the AHCI driver.

Now reboot again, and go into the BIOS and change from IDE to ACHI. Start up and verify that Windows detects your drives. Reboot once more..
 

My Computer

OS
Win 7 Enterprise 64bit
If you are going to transfer your OS to the SSD, you are going to have to do the registry hack either before or after. I would suggest before.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
You need to do the registry changes and reboot. When you reboot, windows should show loading drivers. After the drivers are loaded you will be prompted to reboot in order to install them. This time when you begin to startup, go directly to BIOS and change to AHCI mode, save the changes and boot into windows. If your computer boots, you will be in ahci mode.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
I read something about the "SSD's life" and some people said that the SSD "life" is shorter if is used a lot for "writing"
What is that means, guys ? I hope that 2-3 years i'm okay with the SSD.
I install only the OS and the programs on the SSD, and all the games - on the HDD.
And of course, music / movies / pics / etc, on the HDD, too
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel7 4790K
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z97X UD5H
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 980Ti G1
Sound Card
SoundBlaster X-FI XtremeGamer
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung UE40JU6550 UHD
Screen Resolution
3840 X 2160
Hard Drives
1 SSD Intel 330
2 x Western Digital 6400 AAKS
1 x Western Digital 3200 AAKS
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922
This website is doing tests now on SSDs, at last check, they had written 135TB to a 40GB SSD. The media wear out was at 35%. I don't think you kave to worry too much.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
This website is doing tests now on SSDs, at last check, they had written 135TB to a 40GB SSD. The media wear out was at 35%. I don't think you kave to worry too much.
135 TB ? That means about 100.000 GB , right ?
wow
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel7 4790K
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z97X UD5H
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 980Ti G1
Sound Card
SoundBlaster X-FI XtremeGamer
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung UE40JU6550 UHD
Screen Resolution
3840 X 2160
Hard Drives
1 SSD Intel 330
2 x Western Digital 6400 AAKS
1 x Western Digital 3200 AAKS
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922
It's not quite that much as they've been at it for quite awhile. We've been talking about it on the SSD thread. They are not nearly as fragile as most people want you to believe. Trim must work pretty good to write 135TB to a 40GB drive. They've been trying to kill it and haven't done it yet. I have 2, and my 9 year old Grandaughter will probably get to use them when I'm gone.
 

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ALWAYS UNDER CONSTRUCTION
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5900X
    Motherboard
    Asus X570 Crosshair Viii Hero
    Memory
    32GB G Skill DDR4-3600
    Graphics Card(s)
    EVGA RTX 3080 FTW 3 Ultra
    Sound Card
    On Board/Sennheiser PC37X Headset
    Monitor(s) Displays
    3 X Asus 27"
    Screen Resolution
    2560x1440
    Hard Drives
    2 X 1 TB NVME drives
    PSU
    EVGA 850
    Case
    Phanteks Eclipse P400A
    Cooling
    EVGA 280 AIO
    Keyboard
    Logitech G510s/ Logitech G13
    Mouse
    Logitech G502
    Internet Speed
    24/1
    Antivirus
    ESET/MBAM Pro/SAS Pro
    Browser
    Chrome/ Firefox/ Edge
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell 16 Plus
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro
    CPU
    Intel Ultra 9 288V
    Memory
    32 GB LPDDR5X 8533
    Monitor(s) Displays
    16" Mini-LED HDR600 Touch 90 Hz
    Screen Resolution
    2560X1600
    Hard Drives
    1 TB NVME
Anyway, essenbe, i hope that 2-3 years i'm fine with this SSD.
You see how fast the technology goes :D And maybe in 2 years i get another SSD
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel7 4790K
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z97X UD5H
Memory
8 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
GTX 980Ti G1
Sound Card
SoundBlaster X-FI XtremeGamer
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung UE40JU6550 UHD
Screen Resolution
3840 X 2160
Hard Drives
1 SSD Intel 330
2 x Western Digital 6400 AAKS
1 x Western Digital 3200 AAKS
PSU
Corsair 750W
Case
Cooler Master HAF 922
Back
Top