Thunderbird password box

[ellenc]

I can't remember if I've posted this. [FONT=&quot]I've always been able to get into my Thunderbird email program just by clicking on the TB icon in the taskbar. Suddenly, the box pops up requiring the ATT/TB email password. Please let me have your advice how to remove the password requirement and just logon again. As always, thanks ever so much for your help. ellenc[/FONT]

 

[MoxieMomma]

Hi, ellenc:

We could better assist you if we knew the following:

Are you referring to a Thunderbird Master Password, or to a password for an individual email account?

I will take a guess that you refer to the latter.
If that's the case, then it's possible that, at some point, your ATT mail server may have been down.
When this happens, as explained here:

Thunderbird will forget your password and will keep asking you to re-enter it till it connects to the server or until you Cancel, whichever comes first. Sometimes when a server comes back up after a connection failure, Thunderbird will never log in to the server no matter what you enter.

1. Before proceeding, ensure that you have on hand the correct password for the email account in question.
2. Delete the perfectly good password in TB: "Tools -> Options -> Passwords -> Saved Passwords -> Show Passwords" -> delete the password for the account.
3. Restart TB -- VERY IMPORTANT
4. The next time Thunderbird prompts you for the password, enter it, and check the checkbox to save the password using the password manager.

Please let us know if this helps to resolve your issue.
If not, then I may have misunderstood the problem or there is something else going on (e.g. your email account now has some sort of two-factor authentication or another password-related issue).

Thanks,
MM

 

[ellenc]

Forgot to show you this weird msg I'm getting.

 

[MoxieMomma]

Forgot to show you this weird msg I'm getting.

Sorry, but there's no attachment.

Did you see my earlier reply and this question, by any chance?

Are you referring to a Thunderbird Master Password, or to a password for an individual email account?

If you are referring to an email account password problem, please let us know if the suggestions posted help to resolve it.

If you are referring instead to a MASTER PASSWORD problem or if the proposed solution does not work, please let us know.

Thanks,
MM

 

[ellenc]

TB passsword

forgot to tell you that I''m using the original ATT/Yahoo email account to receive and send messages. It's working OK but I hate it; miss Thunderbird. (Got email from Yahoo the other day that they have been breached, big time!)

 

[MoxieMomma]

Hi:

Yes, Yahoo announced a week or so ago that there was another, massive security breach back in 2013.
If you don't need it, it's probably advisable to completely delete (terminate) one's yahoo! account, as many security experts now suggest.

Having said that, it's hard to assist you with your Thunderbird issue if you cannot please answer the few simple questions we have asked, or if you cannot tell us whether you have tried the suggestions we made.

Thank you again,
MM

 

[ellenc]

Thunderbird password

I have uninstalled ATT/Yahoo/Thunderbird and have set up a gmail account. It's great! Please know that your help is very much appreciated. ellenc

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Yep gmail is the best I've run across

 

[MoxieMomma]

Hi:

gmail is a webmail service = apple
Thunderbird is an email client = orange (although it can of course be configured to include any webmail account (gmail, yahoo, etc.), ISP email accounts, Exchange accounts, etc.)

If you only need to access your emails from the gmail web interface, then you should be all set.
If you wish to download and store messages "locally" (on your computer vs. on the gmail servers), then you'll need some sort of email client, either Thunderbird or an alternative.

But, if you're happy, then that's all that matters.

Cheers,
MM

 

[Barman58]

Gmail has the option of both the older POP3 email sytem where all the mails are downloaded to the local hard drive, and the newer IMAP system where the mails are actually held on Gmail's servers and you use a client to look at them (gmail is in this case a client,(Web Based) as well as the actual email system).

The advantage of the POP3 method is that your mails are always stored on your system, the disadvantage is that your mails are always stored on your system basically you are totally responsible for organising and backing up your email data and you are really limited to checking your mail from one system.

With IMAP you can access your mail from anywhere in the world from any device that can access the internet and any changes you make will be available on any other device you use, instanly, I often check my emails on the move using my Cell Phone and any actions performed are available in Thunderbird when I get home. Also Google will back-up all your files and your attachments on a regular basis so your data is safe. the disadvantage is that you need an Internet connection to access your mail.

As you have stated your fondness for Thunderbird you will be pleased to Know that Thunderbird can work seamlessly with Gmail in either of the modes available,

I would personally suggest that you go the IMAP route unless your internet is poor and chargeable, (metered). Thunderbird is also fully capable of handling the google calendar and by the use of add-ons many other useful day to day organisational tasks

 

[MoxieMomma]

^^ Excellent info. Thanks for clarification. ^^

Gmail has the option of both the older POP3 email sytem where all the mails are downloaded to the local hard drive,

Yes, of course one can access both POP3 and IMAP messages from gmail's own web service.

But does it not still require the use of some sort of email client (Thunderbird or Outlook or any of a number of alternatives) in order to download/store/compose email messages on the local computer???
Without an email client, the only way to access messages (or to write/send them) is via the gmail web interface.
I assume that -- because the OP had been using TB -- she was looking to *fix* TB, not to replace the local email client with a web service.

Perhaps we are talking about different things?
Or am I missing something??

and the newer IMAP system where the mails are actually held on Gmail's servers and you use a client to look at them (gmail is in this case a client,(Web Based) as well as the actual email system).

The advantage of the POP3 method is that your mails are always stored on your system, the disadvantage is that your mails are always stored on your system basically you are totally responsible for organising and backing up your email data and you are really limited to checking your mail from one system.

With IMAP you can access your mail from anywhere in the world from any device that can access the internet and any changes you make will be available on any other device you use, instanly, I often check my emails on the move using my Cell Phone and any actions performed are available in Thunderbird when I get home. Also Google will back-up all your files and your attachments on a regular basis so your data is safe. the disadvantage is that you need an Internet connection to access your mail.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both POP3 and IMAP.
The choice really depends on how the user accesses and works with email, I suppose.

As you have stated your fondness for Thunderbird you will be pleased to Know that Thunderbird can work seamlessly with Gmail in either of the modes available,

Yes, I have both IMAP and POP3 gmail accounts (as well as ISP mail accounts) in Thunderbird on different systems.

I would personally suggest that you go the IMAP route unless your internet is poor and chargeable, (metered). Thunderbird is also fully capable of handling the google calendar and by the use of add-ons many other useful day to day organisational tasks

Good point!
There is also a Lightning calendar feature/add-on for TB.

Oh, well.
I expect that the problems with TB were fixable.
But the OP seems to be satisfied with her solution.

That is good enough for me.

Cheers,
MM

 

[Barman58]

The POP3 option does indeed require a client

The main reason for choice between POP3 and IMAP is I feel down to the quality / availability of a reasonable Internet connection, an intermittent connection points toward the POP3 but any decent modern access is ideally served by IMAP especially due to the use of multiple devices these days. There is of course the often given reason of security as the mails are stored locally but as they have already travelled through the mail server this is less of a factor than is made out

Lightning is now a standard part of Thunderbird.

I actually feed my POP3 accounts through a gmail account to take advantage of Googles spam and security filters - I can create a "Throwaway account for use on sites that require it for access etc, tell Gmail to monitor and fetch mail from it and simply close any account that gets too much spam , although I generally handle spammy product news type emails using rules, in either gmail or Thunderbird

 

[MoxieMomma]

^^ Indeed, indeed. ^^

Excellent info.
Yep, I had forgotten that Lightning is now part of TB.
Thanks for the reminder.

Yeah, most of my ISP and webmail accounts are set up for POP3 (from the old days).
But I use Mailwasher Pro to preview/quick reply/quick forward messages on the servers, which is almost like having an IMAP setup.
I periodically d/l messages into TB on one or the other system.
So, I have the best of both worlds, to some extent.

Cheers,
MM