Discuss Dragon Age 2

[sygnus21]

They don't unlock until after the first chapter, it may even be in the third chapter, but it takes a specific item found for them to be available, then they are 2 gold each.

Ah ok, thanks. That explains why I don't remember them.

Wait a minute..... can't they be purchased in the Black Emporium? I have to take a quick look.

Yeah.... they can be had at the Black Emporium - Mythal's Favor..... 91 silver



I even had one in my inventory

 

[vierasniper]

Mythal Bombs you say? Sounds like a hoot, i never really played with the bombs or poisons in DA2. I did in DA:O, but thats because i pretty much got all the skills i wanted. Then i just picked up the poison making abilities, it added damage like crazy :devil:.

 

[Maguscreed]

any character can use them and they revive team mates.
So it's actually a pretty awesome item yeah.
I left the healer behind a large part of the game because of them.

 

[boogieboy]

So did you keep Anders?

i had to keep him as a healer but im gonna load up my save file and gonna bust his a** hard the second time I really would not like to see that A**hole again ever in any DLC, Expansion or even DA3 at all. I hate Anders and he is one of the worst character i've seen in games so far i swear.

 

[vierasniper]

Hey Boogieboy, Did you play Awakening? Because he was actually pretty funny and pleasant in that one. I just completely hate the new anders, why bioware would change anything about him is beyond me. They turned him into a little, whiny, brat. I dont mind the whole "Mages vs Templars" theme, but he was over the top and unnecessary.

 

[boogieboy]

Yes vierasniper i've played Awakening and i also mentioned somewhere in my previous post in this thread that the much i liked Anders in Awakening the more i hate him in DA2. I dont know too why Bioware messed up his character and merge Justice soul with him and now they made him destroy the Chantry and kill several innocents along with the Grand Cleric :sarc: one thing i wanna know... Where did Flemeth went? i remember i killed her when Morrigan asked me to do that in DA:O and now after the blight is ended and everything Flemeth was still alive and she is flying somewhere

 

[vierasniper]

I couldn't agree with you more about the flemmeth thing. I do remember one of the options with the flemmeth quest, you could tell morrigan that you killed her but she would just "go away". That could be one of the reasons, she shows up at the nick of time during the beginning of DA2. However that still doesnt make sense, because they were running away from the blight, how is that possible if DA2 takes place after DA:O? Completely flawed story telling in my opinion

 

[sygnus21]

Hey Boogieboy, Did you play Awakening? Because he was actually pretty funny and pleasant in that one. I just completely hate the new anders, why bioware would change anything about him is beyond me. They turned him into a little, whiny, brat. I dont mind the whole "Mages vs Templars" theme, but he was over the top and unnecessary.

Though I agree with what you're saying, I think bioware wanted to show his passion and belief in his cause.

If you think about how passionate some people are, especially when it comes to religion and well..... we've seen some horrendous results.... similiar to Anders.

Anders certainly was passionate..... did his passion lead to, or justify his actions? That's the question the games asks..... Thus your choice between life and death.

With regards to Flemeth, if you listened to Morrigan closely, she did hint that even if you kill Flemeth she could still return. With that, I wasn't surprised to see her in DA2.

A lot of fans question Flemeth's return, but if you go back to DA:O and play that scene where Morrigan talks about killing her, you'll he her say something like she could return.

 

[vierasniper]

Very Nice Sygnus, thanks for putting it in perspective. I just wish the whole thing with him was more flexible, like things were in DA:O and Awakening.

 

[sygnus21]

Very Nice Sygnus, thanks for putting it in perspective. I just wish the whole thing with him was more flexible, like things were in DA:O and Awakening.

Yeah but I think Anders character was intentional as he certainly is a key figure in the game. And even if you got rid of him (I didn't), he was still going to make an inpact.

Anyway I agree about having more flexability.... where? Is the question.

I'm going to replay the area where you either choose to help anders or not and see what the impact is for not helping him. My bet is he still does his thing - with or without your help.

 

[Maguscreed]

Very Nice Sygnus, thanks for putting it in perspective. I just wish the whole thing with him was more flexible, like things were in DA:O and Awakening.

Yeah but I think Anders character was intentional as he certainly is a key figure in the game. And even if you got rid of him (I didn't), he was still going to make an inpact.

Anyway I agree about having more flexability.... where? Is the question.

I'm going to replay the area where you either choose to help anders or not and see what the impact is for not helping him. My bet is he still does his thing - with or without your help.

This is true, the same thing happens whether you aid him or not. You didn't honestly think they'd have a scenario where the cinematic for the chantry wasn't used do you?

 

[sygnus21]

Very Nice Sygnus, thanks for putting it in perspective. I just wish the whole thing with him was more flexible, like things were in DA:O and Awakening.

Yeah but I think Anders character was intentional as he certainly is a key figure in the game. And even if you got rid of him (I didn't), he was still going to make an inpact.

Anyway I agree about having more flexability.... where? Is the question.

I'm going to replay the area where you either choose to help anders or not and see what the impact is for not helping him. My bet is he still does his thing - with or without your help.

This is true, the same thing happens whether you aid him or not. You didn't honestly think they'd have a scenario where the cinematic for the chantry wasn't used do you?

Well there you go

And yeah, that would have been a wasted amount of work to let that spectacular scene go

Although it could have been some other disgruntled fugure.... remember not eveyone agreed with the Chantry.... they certainly made plenty of ememies.

At any rate Anders certainly was primed for the role so.....

 

[vierasniper]

I Guess i misused the word "Flexibility". I was trying to say that our choices, dont change anything. Theres no "Different" endings like in DA:O, its all predetermined. Some of the reason's i love RPG's are the choices, and the impacts they have. Not just on the character, but on the environment and its residents. What if he hadn't blown up the chantry? What if the Right of Annulment had been fully executed? Taking the player on an actual witch hunt? If Bioware keeps getting away with this crap, they're gonna single handedly destroy true RPG's. Its kinda sad some people just kinda settled with the one and only ending.

 

[Maguscreed]

I Guess i misused the word "Flexibility". I was trying to say that our choices, dont change anything. Theres no "Different" endings like in DA:O, its all predetermined. Some of the reason's i love RPG's are the choices, and the impacts they have. Not just on the character, but on the environment and its residents. What if he hadn't blown up the chantry? What if the Right of Annulment had been fully executed? Taking the player on an actual witch hunt? If Bioware keeps getting away with this crap, they're gonna single handedly destroy true RPG's. Its kinda sad some people just kinda settled with the one and only ending.

If mass effect 3 carries through properly it should have that something missing you got with this game.

 

[vierasniper]

Thanks for reminding me, i just got Arrival. Ill burn through it later. I still cant believe the crap Bioware is pulling, thats all.

 

[sygnus21]

Spoiler material.....

I Guess i misused the word "Flexibility". I was trying to say that our choices, dont change anything. Theres no "Different" endings like in DA:O, its all predetermined. Some of the reason's i love RPG's are the choices, and the impacts they have. Not just on the character, but on the environment and its residents. What if he hadn't blown up the chantry? What if the Right of Annulment had been fully executed? Taking the player on an actual witch hunt? If Bioware keeps getting away with this crap, they're gonna single handedly destroy true RPG's. Its kinda sad some people just kinda settled with the one and only ending.

I got what you were saying and do agree. I would add that I also agree with the rest of your post here.

I would say however that If the game developers added that type of flexibility to the game, it would have probably been longer (not a bad thing) but maybe a bit confusing and overwhelming (a bad thing).

Then you would have others saying the game was way too long and the story a bit confusing.

I don't know.... you have a valid point I suppose. I'm guessing that you didn't approve of the Chantry getting destroyed with no way to save it?

To me that was the story..... now what do you do? A forced hand.

If anything maybe that should have happened in the beginning..... Then you're forced to choose sides right up front and try to settle things from there.

On the flip side it does provide a nice lead into Dragon Age 3 so....

 

[sygnus21]

Thanks for reminding me, i just got Arrival. Ill burn through it later. I still cant believe the crap Bioware is pulling, thats all.

When you finish post your thoughts here - http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/58774-so-i-bought-mass-effect-2-a-15.html#post1319450

 

[boogieboy]

A lot of fans question Flemeth's return, but if you go back to DA:O and play that scene where Morrigan talks about killing her, you'll he her say something like she could return.

I think i remember something now sygnus21 i think she said that she's not human not even abomination or something like that if im not wrong... I think Flemeth gonna play some serious role later in next part maybe

I Guess i misused the word "Flexibility". I was trying to say that our choices, dont change anything. Theres no "Different" endings like in DA:O, its all predetermined. Some of the reason's i love RPG's are the choices, and the impacts they have. Not just on the character, but on the environment and its residents. What if he hadn't blown up the chantry? What if the Right of Annulment had been fully executed? Taking the player on an actual witch hunt? If Bioware keeps getting away with this crap, they're gonna single handedly destroy true RPG's. Its kinda sad some people just kinda settled with the one and only ending.

Good Points I agree.

IGN recently posted DA2 Guide and Walkthrough in which they showed how quests are connected with each other.

http://guides.ign.com/guides/80342/page_15.html

 

[4eyed]

I have got to get this game.

 

[Maguscreed]

I think they've done up flemmeth a bit like voldemort, she has little pieces of herself left in magic talismans and stuff. So even if you kill her she isn't gone.

Plus she doesn't appear to be completely evil, just evil enough to be interesting.