Latest Internet Explorer 9 Release

I was using IE9 64-bit but due to the problems with Flash video I have gone back to the 32-bit version.
The 32-bit version of IE has a better Javascript engine too.
In addition, my Internet Security Suite is only compatible with 32-bit browsers at this stage.

I decided to try Firefox 64-bit "Nightly" (version 6.0a) and have been using this most of the time lately with minimal problems. It seems to render fonts better than Firefox 4.0.1 which I also have installed.

I really haven't noticed much difference in speed between the 4 browsers.

If your IE9 is inconsistent it could be an addon that is slowing it, but it should pop up a window telling you which addons are the slowing it down. Also (unless you are on a corporate LAN) make sure "Automatically Detect Settings" is not ticked in Internet Options > Connections > LAN Settings. That has caught me out a few times in the past.
 

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And the surprises just keep on comin'! :picnic:

Have we tried running netsh winsock reset on afflicted machines? If Chrome, Firefox, IE, etc all have trouble accessing the internet, the only thing they have in common is the winsock layer (and it's related 3rd party LSP and TDI drivers on the stack). Does a winsock reset make any difference?

Ok, lol. It seems experts think way too hard, because a simple reinstall did the trick!!!!!!!! :D
IE is still broken, but now Firefox is okay.
EPIC LOL! :D
 

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Not exactly - IE is still broken, and lots of OS components share the IE binaries to do their work. It's not thinking too hard when IE is involved, given how intertwined it is within the whole OS - if IE is still broken, you still have a problem.
 

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I really thought I would like IE9 better....but I seems to have some bugs....enough that I am thinking of switching to IE8 :(
 

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I haven’t used IE9 long enough to discover any bugs that cause crashes or freezes.

But one thing was bugging me so much that I switched on my main computer back to IE8:

The location of the Tabs!

All the way up right under the address bar with no way to change that position.

I like it better as it is in IE8 where the Tabs are where they belong – attached right to the top of the web page. And I know I'm not alone with this.
I could live with the Tabs directely underneath, left or right of the web page. but where they have put it in IE9 is plain idiotic.
I hope Microsoft is going to fix that.
 

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But one thing was bugging me so much that I switched on my main computer back to IE8:

The location of the Tabs!

All the way up right under the address bar with no way to change that position.

I like it better as it is in IE8 where the Tabs are where they belong – attached right to the top of the web page. And I know I'm not alone with this.
I could live with the Tabs directely underneath, left or right of the web page. but where they have put it in IE9 is plain idiotic.
I hope Microsoft is going to fix that.
So do I!

Along with lots of others, I have posted on the Microsoft Feedback forum about this. I will keep everyone informed if there is any response on the threads to which I have subscribed. ;)
 

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Firefox has gone that way too =/ but at least you can change it. Ive sort of got used to it now, I like the way the major browsers now look pretty similar. (Although if you'd asked me a year ago I would have said I hate the "Chrome-like" interface, guess I've got used to it)

Anymahoo, back on topic, Haven't really noticed that many bugs with IE9, but then agan I guess I probably don't use it enough to really qualify that statement.
 

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ok guys on my test pc IE9 is installed and I am testing with it on there.

My view is the same as before, it is blindingly fast and has some good changes, however the gui to me is a bomb and is a major downgrade in functionality. A gui thats inefficient to use wipes out the improvements in web page speeds. After looking into it more I have concluded 2 things.

(a) microsoft listened to web developers instead of end users, as dev's think IE9 is great.
(b) they focusing on future web apps and cloud computing as well as how the browser works on mobile devices. So the time of it been primarily a desktop browser is coming to an end.

Apologies if this already been previously posted but I found a good page which has listed features lost from IE8 to IE9. I assume the people who like IE9 as such find these lost features not important, for me tho some are very important.

• Internet Explorer 9 setup cannot be sequenced using Microsoft App-V.
• Tabs from the previous session (after IE is closed and opened again) can no longer be opened selectively. Only tabs from current session which were recently closed can be selectively opened or the entire last session has to be opened.
• The dedicated search box has been removed. Searches can be performed from the address bar as was already possible in all previous IE releases. Because of the removal of the search box, users have to repeatedly type the same search terms if they want to search using a different search provider. Textual descriptions for search providers are no longer shown except in a tooltip when hovered over.
• Tab list menu button has been removed. (Accessible using Ctrl+Shift+Q)
• The page title is no longer shown in the browser's title bar.
• Each download does not get its own button on the taskbar showing the progress of individual downloads. All downloads are grouped without user preference in a single download manager button.
• The progress bar when loading pages and 'Done' message after page loading is complete have been removed from the status bar.
• All functionality from the status bar except zoom button and showing hyperlink upon mouse hover has been removed. The status bar in Internet Explorer 8 showed security zone info, Protected Mode status, SmartScreen information, certificates info, addon manager, pop-up blocker, privacy policy/report and InPrivate Filtering status.
• The ability to freely move browser elements in unlocked state has been removed. The menu bar, favorites bar and command bar could be moved in Internet Explorer 8.
• Large icons cannot be used on the command bar.
• Completed MB and the progress bar have been removed when downloading.
• The Notification Bar replaces the Information Bar which appeared above the page content. The Notification Bar overlaps a certain part of the page and requires the user to close it to see underlying parts of the page.
• Internet Explorer can no longer be set to notify download completion with only a sound. Every download completion shows a visual notification on top of the page which has to be closed.
• When clearing browsing history from within the browser, there is no progress bar or any sort of indication. Instead, a visual notification is shown on the notification bar which has to be closed by the user to see underlying page content.
• Save As is no longer the default option when downloading files. Instead Save is the now the default option which always saves to the Downloads folder.
• The about:tabs page cannot have the status bar enabled. Recently closed tabs from the current or previous session no longer show the URL below.
• The following configurable options have been removed without explanation:
- Reset text size to medium while zooming.
- Force offscreen compositing even under Terminal Server.
- Enable page transitions.
- Always use ClearType for HTML.
- Smart image dithering.
- Print background colors and images.
- Do not submit unknown addresses to your auto search provider and Just display the results in the main window.
- Security Zone settings: Automating prompting for file downloads.
- Security Zone settings: Open files based on content, not file extension.

original info from here XP was my idea: Features removed and degraded in Windows Internet Explorer 9

Now I have been trying to make IE9 viable to use.

There is a free tool called 'classic shell' which adds progress bar back to the status bar and also adds the security zone status back as well. However the privacy report icon remains missing, I will explain the impact of that.

On IE8 if a cookie is blocked on a page then the privacy report icon is shown on the status bar, a simple double click on it will show the blocked cookies and can right click to allow them. On IE9 I have to use the menus to access the privacy report and the cookies listed are a global list for the entire browser so it will list all blocked cookies for any site visited and as such its messier and cannot determine so easily whats been blocked on the current page. I have requested to the author of classic shell to see if he can restore this to IE9.

......................

For the cleartype font issue, there is a workaround however I have not tested this workaround yet. Here is the info. DWrite.dll wrapper - SoftwareNinjas.ca It is a wrapper which has it disabled, this to me is a very messy solution as there could be unpredictable behaviour using these 3rd party files and the risk of IE9 updates overwriting them but is a solution nevertherless.

With all this done the only 2 issues I get left with on IE9 is probably the theme issue where IE9 looks a bit odd with my theme and the privacy report problem. The loss of configurable options I am curious as well as to what the defaults are hardcoded to and why they got removed but they probably not showstoppers. I hope this post helps others who have the same concerns as me with IE9.
 
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Firefox has gone that way too =/ but at least you can change it. Ive sort of got used to it now, I like the way the major browsers now look pretty similar. (Although if you'd asked me a year ago I would have said I hate the "Chrome-like" interface, guess I've got used to it)

Anymahoo, back on topic, Haven't really noticed that many bugs with IE9, but then agan I guess I probably don't use it enough to really qualify that statement.

I hate chrome now as its responsible for these poor slimmed/dumbed down looks. Also not sure whats good about competition all copying each other.
 

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Firefox has gone that way too =/ but at least you can change it. Ive sort of got used to it now, I like the way the major browsers now look pretty similar. (Although if you'd asked me a year ago I would have said I hate the "Chrome-like" interface, guess I've got used to it)

Anymahoo, back on topic, Haven't really noticed that many bugs with IE9, but then agan I guess I probably don't use it enough to really qualify that statement.

I hate chrome now as its responsible for these poor slimmed/dumbed down looks. Also not sure whats good about competition all copying each other.

Totally agree, especially when they are all copying something that I DON'T WANT! And I don't want the slimmed/dumbed down look either. I like to have
a lot of IE functions easily available wherever I want them. . . But at least we can still configure IE to pretty much bring back most of the customizations we want.
 

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I haven’t used IE9 long enough to discover any bugs that cause crashes or freezes.

But one thing was bugging me so much that I switched on my main computer back to IE8:

The location of the Tabs!

All the way up right under the address bar with no way to change that position.

I like it better as it is in IE8 where the Tabs are where they belong – attached right to the top of the web page. And I know I'm not alone with this.
I could live with the Tabs directely underneath, left or right of the web page. but where they have put it in IE9 is plain idiotic.
I hope Microsoft is going to fix that.

You can move the tabs to the right of the address bar.

ie9 tabs.JPG

Right click in an empty space next to the tabs and uncheck "show tabs on a separate row". If I misunderstood your comment I apologize.
 

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I haven’t used IE9 long enough to discover any bugs that cause crashes or freezes.

But one thing was bugging me so much that I switched on my main computer back to IE8:

The location of the Tabs!

All the way up right under the address bar with no way to change that position.

I like it better as it is in IE8 where the Tabs are where they belong – attached right to the top of the web page. And I know I'm not alone with this.
I could live with the Tabs directely underneath, left or right of the web page. but where they have put it in IE9 is plain idiotic.
I hope Microsoft is going to fix that.

You can move the tabs to the right of the address bar.

View attachment 153088

Right click in an empty space next to the tabs and uncheck "show tabs on a separate row". If I misunderstood your comment I apologize.

yes but thats near useless unless only using no more than a few tabs at once.

whats the productive reason for having the address bar so low down? There isnt one its simply to copy chrome.

Firefox made the same silly mistakes, removing menu bar by default, tabs at top, removing down arrow next do back/forward, disabling status bar. However firefox is saved by the fact they can be either optionally changed back or addons can be installed restoring missing features. IE9 the changes are forced on the user.

For what its worth I am not a fan of google, google are certianly not gods and microsoft shouldnt fear them to the point they have to copy them. Simple isnt always good and I find far too many google owned stuff "too simple".
 

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Hi guys,

I just wanted to say I read a lot of IE9 hatred in here. That's too bad, because it seems with each new software release from MS, that's exactly the response, regardless of how happy and fond we are of the product later.

Now, I'm going to take the schoolmarmy approach and ask you: how many of you were running Windows XP and got upset at Windows 7 and all of its supposed "terrible changes"? Now, some things will change and be different from how you've been used to doing it for a while. If we stuck with that attitude, we'd have never left Windows 3.1! Or Windows 95 *shudder*

Of course you are all welcome to say anything you want about any product. I just wanted to try to apply a little perspective.

And FWIW, I absolutely LOVE IE9 and its lightweight simplicity. Don't forget, you can hit the ALT key and pop up your old File - Edit - etc menu.

Hugs!! :grouphug:

Heather

oh, P.S. I'm writing this using Chrome :roflmao:
 

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But have you read the objections and took them seriously?

how does hitting the alt key get round the problem of not wanting to use the keyboard to access the menu? there are those of us who dont use shortcut keys etc. It is about efficiency, it is about having the menu where you expect it to be without needing extra clicks or the keyboard.

Regarding windows 7 vs XP, its thanks to 3rd party software and a guide on this site I am using windows seven, I brought back quick launch and using "7 taskbar tweaker" to change the taskbar behaviour back to more old school. Without these changes its very likely I would still be using XP now as I find the "by design" behaviour of windows 7 GUI unuseable.

There is a golden rule when developing if dont want to alienate your userbase, it is really quite a simple rule. I will say it again it is very simple. You simply make any changes optional.
 

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Hi Chrysalis!

There is no need to get testy. I was merely stating my opinion.

I enjoy the new features. If new technologies weren't introduced to us, we'd still be stuck in caveman days.

The ALT feature of IE9 merely gives you more screen real estate to work with--which I appreciate. What do you do more--look at webpages, or use the File or Edit menu?

I am not sure regarding all your troubles with the installation and subsequent usage of Windows 7. I have installed it on many different configurations and it has run beautifully and perfectly every time.

Also, there are built-in ways to reconfigure your Windows 7 taskbar to make it look like Windows XP--complete with a "quick launch" style-area. I've attached a screenshot of how you can make it look simply by changing the Properties of the task bar.

Again, sorry if I offended--but this is just my opinion, stated on a neutral IE9 thread.

Best,

Heather
 

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I welcome your opinion is fine, but if you did read the reasons people dont like the changes then you would have known having to press alt is not a solution. If the option is there for the menu to on/off (it actually is to be fair you misunderstood the issue) then everyone in theory is happy as those who dont like it turn it off, those who like it turn it on, but also it needs to fully customisable all the toolbars, or at least do what FF did and and leave the menu in the default place (top of window) and add an option to have tabs below the address bar (FF also did). This avoids users complaining because if they dont like it they then can simply change it back.

Looks is one thing but ultimately functionality is king.

Your screenshot incidently doesnt mirror XP behaviour, if not using 3rd party software its not possible to mirror XP behaviour as 7's taskbar will group windows of same app together and have unusually big gaps between other windows. eg. on windows 7 without 3rd party software I could not have this on th e task bar. IE-> FF -> IE, it would force the 2 IE to be after each other. But this is off topic, best to continue this in the quick launch thread or something.

Do you not think it a problem to add choice to gui changes? simple question if you dont mind answering it. Its logical that forced gui changes will be rejected by some people as it means they have to change how they work. There is no data that proves new changes are more efficient over time either, in this case it was done to copy chrome.
 

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I welcome your opinion is fine, but if you did read the reasons people dont like the changes then you would have known having to press alt is not a solution. If the option is there for the menu to on/off (it actually is to be fair you misunderstood the issue) then everyone in theory is happy as those who dont like it turn it off, those who like it turn it on, but also it needs to fully customisable all the toolbars, or at least do what FF did and and leave the menu in the default place (top of window) and add an option to have tabs below the address bar (FF also did). This avoids users complaining because if they dont like it they then can simply change it back.

Looks is one thing but ultimately functionality is king.

Your screenshot incidently doesnt mirror XP behaviour, if not using 3rd party software its not possible to mirror XP behaviour as 7's taskbar will group windows of same app together and have unusually big gaps between other windows. eg. on windows 7 without 3rd party software I could not have this on th e task bar. IE-> FF -> IE, it would force the 2 IE to be after each other. But this is off topic, best to continue this in the quick launch thread or something.

Do you not think it a problem to add choice to gui changes? simple question if you dont mind answering it. Its logical that forced gui changes will be rejected by some people as it means they have to change how they work. There is no data that proves new changes are more efficient over time either, in this case it was done to copy chrome.

Crysalis, you've made two crucial points: FUNCTION and CHOICE!!! For me, it's all about function (as opposed to looks), but having said that, I think everyone would be accepting of the changes if Microsoft gave us sufficient choices to set up our systems the way that each one of us wanted. There's only one way to satisfy all the levels of computer users, from the newbies all the way up to those folks who are the most technologically savvy, and that is: make the changes, but give users the choice to customize their systems the way they want to.
 

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Chrysalis, I agree. You are totally correct--having choices in customizing your interface is always preferred. But I see a near complete level of customization that suits me. Maybe what you are looking for in a browser is just not what I'm looking for, and therefore I don't see it as all that big a deal.

The bottom line is: You have a choice between browsers, therefore you can vote with your download.

(And I think we do need to meet in the "Quick Launch" thread, wherever that is, to discuss. You don't have all the information regarding this. You CAN make Windows 7 natively keep taskbar icons separate, without stacking. It's very easy).

Again, this is my opinion, and I hope you understand. Please read as-is, from a friendly perspective, and understand that text does not convey emotion well :)

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yep everyone will have their won requirements on what they need from the browser and how they use it. It just so happens to be for me a fair few of the changes have gone down badly in how I use the browser but I am working on migrating to IE9 as I think the benefits of it are great. I am defenitly not saying its a poor app, just the gui functionality I have to have workarounds for. I have made comments (including a thread I started) on a couple of IE9 related threads incidently, let me know if interested and I will post links to them.
 

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I'd love to see the threads. I'm always interested in others' perspectives on software, especially Microsoft stuff, considering how heavily invested I am personally in it. Links plz?
 

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