Solved Please help anyone!! Urgent!!

[Bradley74]

Well, I've just took out the RAM memories today and swapped them from slot to slots to see if that makes any difference or changes.

The thing is, once I put them back on again and start my computer, the system seems lagging more and even slowing down?

So the question is, how do we fix this?

Does anyone ever came across similar issues like this?
Any ideas upon how to fixing this matter?

Thank you all for the supports and very much appreciated.

Specs are:
RAM Brands: 2GB Kingston (x2) and 2GB Transcend (x1). Total 6GB
OS: Windows Se7en Ultimate X64 SP1

 

[ignatzatsonic]

You'd fix it by putting the sticks back in their original position.

BUT--how much of the slowdown is real and how much is your imagination or placebo effect?

If you moved the sticks back to their original position, I'd guess it's your imagination. You say "seems".

Assuming all of the RAM is still fully recognized, all you might have done by moving the RAM is to change from dual channel to single channel---which I wouldn't expect to be noticeable in ordinary usage.

You're not likely to hurt anything. Run some benchmarks. You might see a difference. Dual channel is preferable.

 

[Bradley74]

You'd fix it by putting the sticks back in their original position.

BUT--how much of the slowdown is real and how much is your imagination or placebo effect?

If you moved the sticks back to their original position, I'd guess it's your imagination. You say "seems".

Assuming all of the RAM is still fully recognized, all you might have done by moving the RAM is to change from dual channel to single channel---which I wouldn't expect to be noticeable in ordinary usage.

You're not likely to hurt anything. Run some benchmarks. You might see a difference. Dual channel is preferable.

I am running with Dual Channel, and I did replace them back to its origin place where I took them out. But still the system is just lag and slower than before.

All the RAM are recognised and works as it is, the only difference is that lag and slowing down gets me in the head. It shouldn't be like this either, and I've never came like this before.

What sortta Benchmarks you talking about in order to run and what does it do?

 

[ignatzatsonic]

There are several benchmark tools out there like SiSoft Sandra and Passmark, but.........you won't have a benchmark for your old setup when things were "good". You didn't run one then. All you can do is run a test now--but you have nothing to compare it to--you don't have the benchmark from when things were "good". So you'll still be subject to your imagination and it may still "get you in the head".

You can also run memtest86 to see if some of your RAM has suddenly gone bad.

Here's a video on dual channel versus single channel tests:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nSX2taw-Y4

 

[Bradley74]

There are several benchmark tools out there like SiSoft Sandra and Passmark, but.........you won't have a benchmark for your old setup when things were "good". You didn't run one then. All you can do is run a test now--but you have nothing to compare it to--you don't have the benchmark from when things were "good". So you'll still be subject to your imagination and it may still "get you in the head".

You can also run memtest86 to see if some of your RAM has suddenly gone bad.

Here's a video on dual channel versus single channel tests:

RAM Benchmark: Dual-Channel vs. Single-Channel - Does it Matter? - YouTube

Alright, thanks very much for the superb supports, and I'll see what I can do and might as well run the test memories if necessary.

If there's any further advises or tips please advice them.

Cheers mate.

 

[Bernardus]

Why not try with just a single memorystrip?
You may select who causes de delay.

The best thing to do is tot run a memorytest from DOS.
There are even from Aida or Everest small routines which you can load from a CD.
This eliminates Windows doubts.

 

[gregrocker]

What happens if you run only the 2 Kingston sticks?

This tutorial will show you how to test all of your sticks, together and then individually, to determine if any are bad. It will also show you how to eliminate slots as the cause of the problem. RAM - Test with Memtest86+

Keep in mind Kingston has the best tech support in the business and will replace any stick that they help you test which proves bad, even if you didn't buy it from them. I always get a problem solved when I involve them.

 

[AddRAM]

What is your WEI score for memory ?

Are you positive it`s running in dual channel ?

Have you confirmed with CPU-Z ?

You have 2 2GB and 1 2GB stick, meaning if you have 4 slots you still have 1 open. Meaning it may not be running in Dual channel.

 

[Bradley74]

What happens if you run only the 2 Kingston sticks?

This tutorial will show you how to test all of your sticks, together and then individually, to determine if any are bad. It will also show you how to eliminate slots as the cause of the problem. RAM - Test with Memtest86+

Keep in mind Kingston has the best tech support in the business and will replace any stick that they help you test which proves bad, even if you didn't buy it from them. I always get a problem solved when I involve them.

I already did Memtest and no problems found. But the system itself still lags??

Its funny that, before moving them it was running pretty smoothly unlike anything happend, but after removing them into different slots the system lags and slows down??

So what I did was replace them back to their original states, but nothing works, still lags and slows down!!

Any ideas what might be causing then??

 

[Bradley74]

What is your WEI score for memory ?

Are you positive it`s running in dual channel ?

Have you confirmed with CPU-Z ?

You have 2 2GB and 1 2GB stick, meaning if you have 4 slots you still have 1 open. Meaning it may not be running in Dual channel.

Yes, that is correct, I have one slot left, only got three slots plugged. But that not the thing I am concerning about.

The question is, before removing them into different slots everything works smoothly, but after removing them into/changing them into different slots it slows down and lags. You could pretty much feel and tell the difference right away when the computer starts.

So I assume that something I never seen before, and never came across like this before. I did turned off the power while replace/removing them into different slots though.

I can't see how this occurred itself though??

 

[Bradley74]

What happens if you run only the 2 Kingston sticks?

This tutorial will show you how to test all of your sticks, together and then individually, to determine if any are bad. It will also show you how to eliminate slots as the cause of the problem. RAM - Test with Memtest86+

Keep in mind Kingston has the best tech support in the business and will replace any stick that they help you test which proves bad, even if you didn't buy it from them. I always get a problem solved when I involve them.

The thing that I can't figure out is, before removing and changing them into different slots everything were smooth. But right after changing them into different slots, you can feel and tell the difference, it lags more and slows down.

I mean I can't see how this could possibly occurred? Why would it be slowing down and lag? That what I wana know? Nothing else is bad, everything is the same except system lags and slowing down.

By the way, I already done the Memtests, no errors found.

What might be other causes?

 

[AddRAM]

Did you confirm they are running in dual channel ?

 

[Bradley74]

Why not try with just a single memorystrip?
You may select who causes de delay.

The best thing to do is tot run a memorytest from DOS.
There are even from Aida or Everest small routines which you can load from a CD.
This eliminates Windows doubts.

Why would there be any causes of delays if we only took them out and replace them into different slots??

Does yours work like that? have you actually try to replace yours into different slots and see if theres any difference it makes?

If yours doesn't happen to lag or slows down, then I think mine has got a problem. I can only guess but again I could be wrong. Correct me if I am wrong!!

 

[Bradley74]

Did you confirm they are running in dual channel ?

Well, when the pc starts it says dual channel, but I've only used three slots and left one empty, cuz I've only got 6GB (2GB,2GB,2GB) in total. if I got 8GB I will have them all in four slots.

Hope this answered your question.

 

[AddRAM]

No it doesn`t, did you open CPU-Z and see ?

 

[DavidE]

When I make hardware changes I always go into BIOS and check settings.
Sometimes a BIOS setting gets changed and needs to be reset.
Home-build/Custom-build PCs usually have more BIOS settings options than "OEM Pre-build" PCs.

 

[Bernardus]

Did you confirm they are running in dual channel ?

Well, when the pc starts it says dual channel, but I've only used three slots and left one empty, cuz I've only got 6GB (2GB,2GB,2GB) in total. if I got 8GB I will have them all in four slots.

Hope this answered your question.

Well I'm not shure but some PC's only accept mem. running in pairs.
On the mem card is the ID of the type of Mem.

I cam across Pc's who slows down with more memory running in half speed mode.

 

[Bradley74]

No it doesn`t, did you open CPU-Z and see ?

Yes I did, and what am I supposed to do then after viewing CPU-Z??

I am still wondering why would changing slots making the system lags and slowing down?
I am thinking might be something wrong with the regedit!! Not sure.

That just totally weird. If it doesn't happen to yours that shouldn't happen to anyone elses or else it might.

Would re-install the whole entire OS help this do you think? or restore to an earlier point?

 

[Bradley74]

Did you confirm they are running in dual channel ?

Well, when the pc starts it says dual channel, but I've only used three slots and left one empty, cuz I've only got 6GB (2GB,2GB,2GB) in total. if I got 8GB I will have them all in four slots.

Hope this answered your question.

Well I'm not shure but some PC's only accept mem. running in pairs.
On the mem card is the ID of the type of Mem.

I cam across Pc's who slows down with more memory running in half speed mode.

So what after all, do I consider restore to an earlier point or reinstalling the whole OS again??

This problem doesn't seem to go away or any further, and now makes me wonder if the HDD is playing the tricks rather than memories. But I still strongly assume its the memory not the HDD.

I am doing defragment now see if this works.

Any other ideas might help to get through this matter? So far the system still lags and slowing as it is!!

 

[Bradley74]

When I make hardware changes I always go into BIOS and check settings.
Sometimes a BIOS setting gets changed and needs to be reset.
Home-build/Custom-build PCs usually have more BIOS settings options than "OEM Pre-build" PCs.

I do go into the BIOS checked all the settings right after I replace the memories, I do just like you did there always good to check before carry on etc.

Does yours happen like that lags and slowing down, if you change your memories into different slots or swap them around from one and another?

The problem still remains!! Even I replace them back into their original place, it still lags and slows down the system.