Problem with RAM

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Now just to sticks:
I don't understand anything !!!!!!!:what:
 

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There is Installed and Total almost the same (very small difference). Compare to #7.
Second picture before was:Installed memory 4.67 GB (Usable 2.96 GB). Now, Installed 2.00 GB and that's it.
What 's going on?
 

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you found 2 dimms that work perfectly, now try just the other two. Also recommend you try the other two in the same slots, and then in different slots. Your motherboard and memory are not fully compatible apparently, we just need to figure out which dimms are the best. Not that it will matter in the end, as 2.75GB is fine for your system.
 

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Sometimes just removing and cleaning the contacts on the ram and then reinstall will solve problems.

On a old X58 system I once had, a spider built a condo in a ram slot that caused all kinds of problems.

A execution and cleanup fixed the problem.

Jack
 

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Hi,

I tried every possible combination of setup Ram sticks and dimm slots and always is the same situation. It doesn't matter which sticks I'm using or which Dimm slots I put them, 2 sticks are working like in #41 and when I put another two it's showing Total 40.. and usable 20... I don't know if this is possible but is there any chance that somewhere in Windows or something configuration is setup which is kind of blocking some number Ram to be use?
 

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Hi,
More likely that has been said defective or incompatible sticks.

The only real test is to buy all 4 sticks as a set from somewhere.
 

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I bought them as a set. This is way they are identical.

P.S.
They were working perfect before, but probably me or some application did something with some setting in configuration.
I didn't noticed on the beginning because was small chance in Windows behavior, and when I noticed that is something wrong with number of my Ram it took some time.
 

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NVIDIA GEForce 8800 GTX
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Hi,
Well you shouldn't have a large hardware reserved and don't with the 2 sticks in which showed 9mb's so at least 2 of the sticks are defective or so they seem :/
1mb hwr.PNG
 

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ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
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Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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Built-in Realtek
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2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
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2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
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Custom water loops
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A problem is that I cannot use 4Gb ram memory and my Windows 7 x64 is very slow with 2Gb.
it doesn't matter which sticks or dimm slots I'm using always I can use just 2Gb.
I checked all my ram sticks and there are good
I checked all my dimm slots and they are good. Than what is wrong?
 

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Hi,
Check for bios updates :/
 

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Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
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2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
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Custom water loops
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Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
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BIOS is already updated.
 

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Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad Q6600
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ASUS P5K Deluxe/WiFi-AP
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4.00 GB
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NVIDIA GEForce 8800 GTX
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SoundMAX Intergrated Digital HD Audio
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LG Flatron Wide 22"
When you tried only two dimms, were they running in dual channel or single channel mode? The motherboard selects this automatically depending on which slots you use. I'm wondering if perhaps your motherboard is able to run them fine in single channel mode but is unable to run dual channel, which requires a higher level of compatibility. Have you tried three sticks?
 

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stock i7 7700k
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Gigabyte Z270N-WIFI mini-ITX
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Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 @ 3200MHz
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integrated Intel HD 630
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onboard Realtek ALC1220
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two vertically mounted samsung 55" 4k un55mu8000
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256GB Samsung EVO 960 M.2 pci-e NVMe SSD
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Hi,

In the manual of my motherboard it said:

Do not create a three-DIMM configuration in dual-channel mode. The
third DIMM is ignored in the dual-channel operation.
 

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yeah the idea was to force the motherboard to run in single-channel mode, because most memory incompatibility problems imo stem from dual channel. When you are in single-channel mode a memory request means the bits stream along without interruption from one single dimm to the cpu, doing so one dimm at a time. But in dual channel mode those bits are streaming from two dimms simultaneously and are quickly "joined" once they get to the memory controller, which makes dual channel mode way more complex than single channel mode and way more dependent on perfect timing, which is why it can result in incompatibility problems with certain dimms

Back in the day when everything was single channel you could buy the cheapest memory and it always worked. But as soon as dual channel came out, memory compatibility became a problem and you have to be picky about exactly what memory you get for your motherboard. In my earlier post I was hoping that your motherboard would drop into single channel mode if you installed a third dimm, but from what you posted it looks like the third dimm is just ignored. But my principle is the same - the only way you are going to get your machine to address 4.00GB with your CURRENT dimms is to get the memory to run in single channel mode.

At some point you have to ask yourself if all this is worth it, because a machine with 2.75GB is pretty unlikely to perform any differently than a machine with 4.00GB.
 

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I understand everything what you said but there is some difference between using 2 something GB of ram or 4 something GB of ram. Now when my computer is using 2...GB I have the most 600Mg memory free. Before when whole ram was used I had 2.6GB free memory it means everything was working always faster and smoother.:cry:

P.S.
Another thing I don't understand this thing which I see in the System Total 4.00 GB (2.62 GB usable)
What it means usable?
It doesn't have any sens !!!
 

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Another thing I don't understand this thing which I see in the System Total 4.00 GB (2.62 GB usable)
What it means usable?

It means your motherboard knows there is 4GB installed in the slots however it also knows it cannot run it all properly in dual channel mode because your dimms are not up to snuff. Like if you buy a dozen apples and 4 of them are bruised, you would have 12 total apples in the kitchen but only 8 usable apples.
 

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Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 @ 3200MHz
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integrated Intel HD 630
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onboard Realtek ALC1220
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Hi,
Put the 2 sticks back in when it said 9mb's hardware reserved
Also did you use slot 1&3 or 2&4 ? you never said.

Then use the crucial upgrade adviser and post a link plus take a screen shot of what they say the machine is capable of using
Crucial.com - Crucial System Scanner
 

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i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
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ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
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Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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Built-in Realtek
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2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
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Custom water loops
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Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
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Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
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!

This first time when was 9Mb it was 2and 4, but later I tried 1 & 3 and was the same sytuation but a little more than 9Mb about 28Mb. I think still good.
 

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NVIDIA GEForce 8800 GTX
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SoundMAX Intergrated Digital HD Audio
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LG Flatron Wide 22"
Hi,
Repeat 2&4 and use the crucial scanner post to the products they suggest.

How did you come to get the ram you're using now ? = who suggested it ?
 

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i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
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