Solved Windows 7...why?

lehnerus2000, when I said the dials and knobs can be positioned anywhere, I meant that they are physically positioned anywhere before you buy...so if you drive one car, then get into another, everything aside from the wheel and pedals is different. Yes, it is a physical product, but it is still a user interface. The first thing you learn in a UI class is that UI's aren't only relegated to the digital world. We're going round and round and going off topic, though....even if it is an interesting debate.
 

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Fair enough

lehnerus2000, when I said the dials and knobs can be positioned anywhere, I meant that they are physically positioned anywhere before you buy...so if you drive one car, then get into another, everything aside from the wheel and pedals is different. Yes, it is a physical product, but it is still a user interface. The first thing you learn in a UI class is that UI's aren't only relegated to the digital world. We're going round and round and going off topic, though....even if it is an interesting debate.

Fair enough.

I've never heard of a production car that allows you to reposition the accessories (not without visiting the workshop).
I have seen pictures of concept cars that are reconfigurable (to a limited extent).
Car analogies (almost always) fail when applied to computers. :D

I never meant to suggest that UIs were limited to electronic devices.

Dodgy UIs have contributed to various disasters (e.g. Three Mile Island).
From Wikipedia:
"The mechanical failures were compounded by the initial failure of plant operators to recognize the situation as a loss-of-coolant accident due to inadequate training and human factors, such as human-computer interaction design oversights relating to ambiguous control room indicators in the power plant's user interface. In particular, a hidden indicator light led to an operator manually overriding the automatic emergency cooling system of the reactor because the operator mistakenly believed that there was too much coolant water present in the reactor and causing the steam pressure release."
My point is that physical UIs are constrained (e.g. materials, space/volume, regulations, weight).
Virtual UIs (OS GUIs) have almost no restrictions (e.g. only host system performance matters - processing and storage capability).
These reasons are why airliners use computer displays, instead of (or in addition to) traditional gauges/lights.

Linux demonstrates that there are no real reasons why an OS can't support multiple UIs.
That causes other problems though. ;)

Since Linux GUIs aren't developed by multi-billion dollar companies (in general).
MS has no real excuses, for its inability to provide options, other than they think there will be no ROI.

Rewarding "Customer Loyalty", is considered "bad" business practice these days. :(
 

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Its blank because you have nothing plugged into the Microphone port.
Aka. Disconnected. Plug in a microphone and it should show up.

Ok yes the mike now works recording when plugged in

... but still nothing from online streaming like I used to with XP. It just gives me an
ongoing line with no data.. ie silence. I tried playing with the sound mapper settings - but nothing.

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What program are you using for the online streaming?

For example, I have Firefox set to ask me, which program I want to use for listening to sound.
You could set it to use Audacity and see if Audacity will then record the sound.
 

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I use firefox and it invokes WMP for live streaming. The Menu:Tools/options/Applications window shows an "Action" list of 8 aplications that use WMP for "content" such as "Windows media audio/video file".

But also it appears that the only input device my system has is "microphone". It just does not "hear" any streaming or anything else like CD played through the system.

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(below)When trying to stream the ony other option then "microphone" is "primary sound capture driver"

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Went to "sound" in CP and ensured all devices were "enabled"

And I'm not the only one have troubles with Audacity/W7, just Google "audacity no input device windows 7"
 

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You are talking about "Stereo Mix" are you not? That completely depends on the sound card you have and whether the manufacture of that sound card has provided drivers with stereo mix capability. It appears you are using the generic HD Audio drivers which provides just basic features.

For example I have stereo mix on my computer because the drivers for my sound card support that capability.
 

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Oh, it looks there's something missing on my system :rolleyes: You have all these devices and I only have the mikes!

But, I can hear the live streaming, CDs etc through the speakers and headphones, so there must be a "stereo mix" device/card in there somewhere. So we know it "works". It's that audacity can't hear it.
 

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You are missing the drivers for your sound card. Even then however it is not guaranteed they will support stereo mix. That feature is provided at the discretion of the manufacture of your sound card.

You'll probably need: http://www.abyssmedia.com/isound7/
 

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Right click in the white area of recording tab of the sound control panel--like where logicearth has the red arrow.

Choose "show disable devices' and "show disconnected devices".

Does stereo mix then show up??

If it does, Audacity can find it.

If it does not, you have 2 choices:

1: Install any other driver you can find for your sound card---most likely Vista drivers. Try compatibility mode on existing drivers. Cuss a while. Search for more drivers. Cuss some more.

2: Buy a sound card known to provide Stereo Mix on Windows 7. They are not common, but they are out there.
 

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This is as far as i get with the recording device panel.... I tried update sound drivers option . No change. Any idea where to look for the ID of the sound card so to manually find potential drivers before I give in to something like isound7

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Go to Device Manager and look under "sound, video, and game controllers".

You should see your sound card listed.

Or you could go to your motherboard manufacturer's web site.

Or you could go to the system builder's web site and look for other drivers if you bought the PC from Dell or HP or somebody like that.
 

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The truth is that a lack of stereo mix is quite common on Windows 7.

It was not so common on Vista and much less common on XP.

I leave it to you to imagine why the powers that be might want to make it difficult for you to record sound on a PC.

Hmmm....................I wonder why they would do that?


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.....................

Get a separate sound card.
 

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All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
And BTW thank you all for persisting with your suggestions. W7 is an improvement in many ways and yes the designers "listened" to the the median in the bell-curve sample of users. But there are always us outliers who have specific requirements of our computing work that often get dropped out in the "improvements" of the upgrades.
 

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